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Hello everyone! One kind friend of mine, messaged me with a MyTake which is a blatant unoriginal response to my previous MyTake about hatred. It is full of bias- don't get me wrong there is a lot of truth to that MyTake, but it is very one-sided.
And once again, I have been accused of things - which I have not done or attempted to do - like always I've just told both sides to the story.
So without further redue let's get started.
"In Britain today we have a serious problem with gang rapists targeting young white girls as young as 11 for gang rape"
True. Britain does have a problem with sexual assault and one could argue that gang rape is an immense problem in Britain, good job for stating that sad truth. And young white girls do get targeted. Now in certain instances this could be race motivated - and then yes, it is a racist attack. In other cases it may be a lust motivated which is equally as sick and wrong as a race motivated attack. In some cases, I've read racial slurs were said against white girls whilst being attacked, so yes those particular cases were race motivated.
But in other cases, the attacks were not race motivated, as girls of who were black and Asian also were targeted and sexually assaulted (including raped) by these gangs. In some instances, certain gangs even raped members of their own families! It's sick, disgusting and so I feel that aspect of the story also needs to be brought to light.
"yet because the perpetrators or non-white & of a certain religious faith we are told to silent & if we aren't then we are being "racist" & islamaphobic, well we won't be silenced anymore."
No. I'm calling this person racist because of the way in which they report these stories. The way in which have written previously and the way in which you write your headlines, grooms people to believe that it is only Muslim Pakistani men committing these crimes and that young white girls are the only victms. When this is not the case.
Because it's a fact, I will admit that the majority of men who were apart of these gangs are Pakistani. And they claim to be Muslim. But that doesn't make them Muslim. See in Islam, if you're a Muslim you'll claim to be a Muslim and act like a Muslim.
Rape and sexual assault is haram in Islam. In Islam we call rape 'zina', and zina is one of the biggest sins in Islam. We would class 'rape' as a type of zina, because 'zina' means "unlawful sexual intercourse" and rape is unlawful sexual intercourse.
“And come not near to zina. Verily, it is a Faahishah (i.e. anything that transgresses its limits: a great sin, and an evil way that leads one to hell unless Allah Forgives him).” [al-Isra’ 17:32]
So while these rapists, may claim to be Muslims or happen to be from Muslim families they are not Muslims in practice. They are practicing no religion, and they are not doing any favours for Islam, and mankind as a whole. They are apart of no religion.
And I am aware in certain instances religious extremism was used in these attacks, and again that is unislamic, and just anti-religion in general. No religion condones sexual violence or force.
"Let there be no complusion in religion"
These men may be predominately Pakistani, but they are not Muslims.
"Those that try to dismiss what is happening try to tell us that it's not thst serious"
Who ever said this was not a serious issue? I'd love to speak with them and give them a piece of my mind, because this is a serious issue, a deadly serious one.
"that all those rape gangs are locked up and they tie it all up in neat little bow"
Hahaha, OP- nobody bows to you, you're no queen honey. I never said all these gangs have been locked up, when I said "these gangs have been locked up" I was referring to the members of the Rotherham grooming gang. There has been 46 convictions. 44 men and 2 women.
"but i can tell you that it has not stopped, few of the perpetrators have actually been convicted"
How many have been convicted and how many were involved?
This goes to anyone, if you know a girl, woman man or boy being targeted by a grooming gang or multiple grooming gangs- please go to the authorities. Because while speaking on G@G may raise awareness, it isn't really going to do anything.
Contacting the authorities, reporting it to the authorities will give people with the power, the ability to do something. Contact reporters who have reported on these cases before, or who specialise in these cases, get legal advice, tell and contact charities which specialise in helping vulnerable people and help get these people off of our streets.
I understand this is a cause many people care about, myself included. And if I knew somebody being targeted G@G would be the last place I come. I'd get in contact with those that I listed above, and anyone else I can think of. I'd tell my college's wellbeing services, I'd inform their parents, the police- anybody useful, as long as it means keeping them safe.
A cause which I'm currently fighting for is #SaveOurLibraries. I write about that on G@G, but you don't see me saying: White Christian Men making cuts to Muslim Pakistani Areas! Because whilst the people at the top who are making cuts are white Christian men, I'm not going to say that because:
1) It insights hatred to white Christian men
2) Women will be involved with making these cuts
3) A small amount of people of colour will be involved in making these cuts, but none the less, they are still involved so it isn't fair I pin the blame on one whole community.
4) My city does have a large Muslim Pakistani population. But it also has a large white population. It has other Asians living here and black people living here. It consists of Christians, Atheists, Agnostics, Sikhs, Hindus and Jewish people so while yes, many victims of these cuts are Muslim Pakistanis, it isn't fair that I leave out the other victims of these cuts too, so it isn't fair that I just mention the victims of my ethnicity and not the victims of other ethnicities even if there are fewer of them.
If I was going to bring race and religion into this I would say predominately white Christian men, women, and people of colour are making cuts to our city.
" They try to make out that it was an isolated case in Rotherham"
Again, I never said it was only Rotherham. I use it as an example, because it is the case I am most knowledgable about as I have studied this case.
"Rotherham where 1400 young white girls were raped"
That's a lie. It wasn't 1400 white girls who were raped. The majority of the 1400 were white girls, but a proportion of girls were Asian and black. So yes, while it is estimated that at least 1400 girls were victims of these crimes, the 1400 wasn't solely white girls.
" yet seem to have never heard of"
I have heard of the gangs you listed, some I hadn't had read into and some I had. Now I've read into them all.
"The Huddersfield grooming gang"
The perpatrators of this gang were all Asian, predominately Pakistani, the ringleader of this gang was Indian however, and has thankfully been sentenced with life in prison, there has been 19 convinctions, and unfortunately one man fled his trial but was sentenced in his absence.
"The Rochdale grooming gang"
Nine groomers aged between 24 and 38 were convicted. Eight were of Pakistani origin and one was of Afghanistani origin. Five of the men were imprisoned and four were deported.
In 2015, ten more grpomers were convicted, my sources did not state their ethnicity so I will try and find that and update this when I do.
"The Derby grooming gang"
Thirteen men were involved in this grooming gang. All thirteen of these men could have been Pakistani, but I can't get a credible source which states they all were so I'm going to say this gang was predominately Pakistani- but if someone or I myself, find a source which states otherwise, I will change this.
I don't know why all these men were not convicted. Soon I will have access to the non-distorted law reports, and when I do I will write about these cases- to provide a full-facted truth about these cases.
Nine of these men were convicted. And not all offences were sexual crimes, some men provided drugs - which if you ask me was equally as sick and disgusting - so three men were jailed on the supplying cocaine, and the rest faced prison time for sexual assault (including rape).
"Oxford child sex abuse ring"
In May 2013, seven men were convicted predominately Pakistani men, and two East African men. In 2018, eight men were jailed - again I don't know which ethnicity but hopefully the law reports should tell me that.
It is estimated that over 300 children were victims, 50 of them being young boys and it just makes me sick to think- I can't even comprehend what these children went through.
"Telford child sexual exploitation scandal"
Seven men were convicted. I don't know the ethnic background of these men so I will find that out, but they were of Asian descent. The Conservative Party MP for Talford, fears that some of the worst abusers have still not been locked up for their crimes- so I hope and pray that these offenders who are still free, get locked up.
Many of the victims of this gang were white. And one third of the victims fell under non-white and black ethnicities.
"Banbury child sex abuse ring"
This grooming gang consisted of predominately black men, and one white man. And there was one 17-year-old apart of the gang who cannot be named because they are under the age of 18.
The ethnicity of these girls is not yet clear. I can't comment about their ethnicity because I don't know it.
"Bristol child sex abuse ring"
These members were predominately Somali. It is possible that every member of this gang was Somali but I cannot say for certain. So far 13 convictions have been made, and 49 suspects of various ethnic backgrounds are currently being investigated by police.
The victims of this grooming gang were "typically young white girls" but again I cannot confirm, every victim was a white girl- but it is likely that the majority of the victims were white girls.
"Newcastle sex abuse ring"
The majority of the groomers were British Pakistani and one white woman was apart of the grooming gang too, a total of 18 convictions took place and up to 50 police officers were sent to investigate this case.
It it also said that a police informant could have been involved in these crimes as a perpatrator. I do not know the ethnicity of this officer.
"Halifax child sex abuse ring"
18 members of this gang were found guilty and faced 175 years of prison time between them. Later, 9 members were convicted and face over 130 years of prison time. And in 2018, 20 members were convicted. This was the largest child sexual exploitation investigation in the United Kingdom.
As for the victims, it is appropriate to guess that a proportion of the victims were white girls, and that there were also POC girls who were victims. I'm guessing on this one, I shouldn't really say, because I don't know for sure- so don't quote me on that.
"Peterborough sex abuse case"
These groomers were of Pakistani, Czech and Slovak Roma and Kurdish backgrounds, and ten men from this grooming gang were convicted.
Their victims consisted of English, Czech and Slovac origin, and these girls were vulnerable and some were in local authority care.
"The Kirklees grooming gang"
This was a very recent case. 44 arrests were made. 36 men, and 3 women. I cannot comment on the ethncity of these men and women because I do not know the ethnicity of these men or women.
Now, has anybody heard of the Berkhamsted paedophile network? The Jersey child abuse investigation 2008? Kesgrave Hall School? Kidwelly sex cult? Kincora Boys' Home? Manchester child sex abuse ring? Medomsley Detention Centre? North Wales child abuse scandal? Northern Ireland Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry? Norwich sexual abuse ring? 2009 Plymouth child abuse case? Sexual abuse scandal in the English Benedictine Congregation?
Why didn't the OP who made the original post I am quoting mention these cases?
I mean fair enough, some of these cases are historical sex abuse cases which happened years ago, but it took until recently for the victims to obtain justice. Some of the historical sex abuse cases I have mentioned started as early as the 1980s and some have only justices after the 2000s, much like the Rotherham grooming gang. I don't understand why it takes that long to obtain justice!
But some of these cases happened recently. So why isn't the OP listing these cases? I'll tell you why. Because in the cases I have just listed the perpatrators were predominately white. I don't understand why the British media hasn't reported some of these cases as: "White *whatever religion or non-religion they are* grooming gangs. Then again, according to Stephen Fry the least trusted media in Europe. If the British media are going to report the ethnicity and religion of one specific demographic of abusers then I suggest they do it to all abusers or they don't report the religion or ethnicity of any abuser.
"Before the Rotherham case broke victims and their families as well as anyone else were kept silent under the threat of arrest by police for racist hate crimes"
Where did you get this information from? I don't think if a girl went to the police reporting rape, the police wouldn't cry about hate crimes, they'd be more focused on the crime which happened to her.
"of course death threats for the rape gangs themselves"
This is true. All white, black and Asian victims recieved death threats from the gangs.
"Victims who came forward were arrested, and even fathers trying to get their daughters back were arrested."
What a fucking lie. I have searched on DuckDuckGo "rotherham grooming gang victims arrested by police" and nothing of the sort has come up, and I haven't seen this on any of the law reports either. So why are you lying?
" Basically authorities, local councils and politicians ignored it as they feared it wouldn't be politically correct and would be seen as persecution of minotities, islamaphobia and racism to be arrresting hundreds if not thousands of non-white muslim men."
Authorities now are clearly not ignoring this. Prosecutions have been made, police investigations are being taken place, prepatrators have been arrested and some prepatrators have been deported.
And yes, a number of abusers will still be lurking out there- and they need to be locked up. But this is why police investigations are put in place, so the police can obtain all the facts proving these abusers guilty whilst simuntaneously making the victims heard.
It can't happen overnight, but with the cuts they face - especially police services in the North of England - they are doing what they can. Blame the people who made the cuts, blame the people who accused police officers of crying wolf when they needed more funding.
"When arrested the first thing these perpetrators do is claim racism or islamaphobia"
It is reported that some of these abusers did try to pull the race card in court, one man accused a judge of being a "racist bastard" for example. And just because certain abusers accuse authorities of being racist, doesn't mean the authorities are.
How fucking dare these abusers use genuine problems faced by people of the UK to try and escape their crime. That makes me as a girl of colour, and a Muslim- sick.
"or even "cultural differences" maybe that works in Germany or Sweden but thankfully not here."
Cultural differences is a bullshit excuse. Because rape or sexual abuse is NOT apart of Pakistani culture.
"Another device used to try to silence those of us speaking out against what is happening in the streets of Britain is to point out that the sex crimes register is 90% White male "
I've raised this issue multiple times. And it's not a device used to silence anybody. It's a fact. When raising this fact I'm giving the people who were victims of this 90% a voice. Because victims of all sexual violence matter.
" which on the surface seems a good point but when consider that minor offences such upskirting pictures, voyeurism, revenge porn, public nudity, dick picks etc can get you on the sex offender register not just rape let alone gang rape that 90% White male statistic seems less important"
Hold on, hold on. The question we need to ask is what percentage of that 90% are on the register for rape, and what percentage of the 90% are on there for other sexual crimes?
How the fuck is this statistic less important? Because people like you, view the offences you listed as 'minor' and play this statistic and these crimes down- it makes people who commit these crimes, think things such as:
'Well, it isn't rape- so it's not that bad is it?'
Yes it is! Any sexual crime or sexual violence can put people through a mental trauma.
Upskirting pictures are a violation to women. If those pictures get out to the wrong people it could potentially ruin a woman's life forever!
Voyeurism can be a violation to people's privacy!
Revenge porn I'm unsure what this is. I personally believe porn should be illegal!
Public nudity is just another sick offence, imagine the distress it must cause to everyone who witnesses it!
Dick pics can being used to exploit vulnerable young boys and if they get in the wrong hands a man or boy's life could again, be ruined because of this!
How dare you play these crimes down!
Pakistanis make up less than 10% of the sex offender register. 10% of the sex offender register consists of people of ethnic backgrounds. Now we have to ask- what percentage of the 10% is for rape, and what percentage of the 10% is for other (equally as sick) sexual crimes?
"not to mention the fact that White women are more likely to report sex crimes."
Yes, but have you ever thought to ask 'why?' I'll tell you why. In certain ethnic backgrounds, family honour is still highly practiced within some families. And grooming gangs know and take advantage of this fact. So if a girl of a ethnic background is raped or sexually assaulted she could be more likely to stay silent because they fear hurting their family's honour.
I'm not saying staying silent because of family honour is the right thing to do, if anything staying silent when you are a victim because of family honour is wrong. But we have to understand that even if we don't agree with it, different people can be raised with different cultures.
So we need to tell all women regardless of their ethnic background that they need to speak out if they are a victim and report sex crimes no matter what.</p>
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