Women Need To Drop The Anti-Slut Defense And Be Their Sexual Self That Nice Men Crave

BOTH SEXES LIKE AND WANT SEX

Women need to drop the anti slut defence and be their sexual selves that nice men crave

For most men, if they find a woman attractive, they would be open to having sex with them (if both parties were available). For women, it is EXACTLY THE SAME in terms of their personal desires or what they want. The only difference is the anti-slut defense which puts them off from acting on it or going for it with that guy crush or male friend.

Women, need to feel horny, find their potential mate attractive to have sex with them AND also need to feel ”allowed” to proceed. Men are driven by desire, and so are women, but women also have a defense mechanism that do not allow them to accept sex invitations or act sexually toward men.

LOVERS AND PROVIDERS - WOMEN DON'T KNOW WHAT MEN WANT

Women are seeking two types of mates – call it different providers. Consider sex being a trade, what you are trading for the sex defines what kind of provider you are.

The men women are seeking who are confident, independent, attractive having a lot of women chasing them are called “sex providers”or lovers – this is the man women finds sexually attractive – the man who women would like to have sex just for the sake of having sex.

These men are often behaving sexually toward women, making themselves being perceived as sexual beings – sex providers. This type of men is usually called “alpha males” or “lovers” in community lingo. Important to point out, these men are trading sex for sex. However, these are a minority – whereas the majority of men are providers of anything else of women’s needs such as social value, material goods, emotional support and so on. These men will trade something else than sex in for having sex with a woman. As a matter of fact this type of providers tend to get sex from being in relationships with women.

Now you might ask why is that a problem?

Well whenever a woman gets “too attracted to you” in ways that are not purely sexual (-i.e. not perceiving you as lover/sex provider), women will tend to act in very pure and a-sexual way toward those men – she will start expressing purity.

This is because she feels more attractive when ever she acts non-sexual toward men and feels unattractive when she is behaving too sexually or promiscuous. Women in fact believe we men do not like women who are sexually open – as they are very familiar with the complex many men have which is called “the Madonna/whore” complex.

SO THE PROBLEM IS, THE WOMAN FOR SOME REASON DOES NOT REWARD OR GET SEXUAL WITH THE NICE CONFIDENT GUY

The sad fact is that the idea of the pure Madonna remains just a plain fantasy. The cold fact is that no women are pure madonnas, neither are they whores for that instance – any women can be sweet and correct, but they are also “whores” as every women have a sexual biological drive – this is a universal truth about healthy women.

Many innocent women are deep down extremely kinky and if they simply showed this, they'd be having sex that they dreamed about with their male friends more often.

WOMEN WANT TO HAVE SEX, BUT THEIR BEHAVIOR SUGGESTS OTHERWISE...MOST MEN WANT:

Most men don’t want women to act pure toward us, as we want sexual openness – women fucking us quickly and good. Many times we just want to simply fuck a girl, not enter a relationship – or if we do want to enter a relationship with that girl, we do not want to commit on a false premise – her being a pure Madonna. A quick word of advice is to never ever enter a relationship on her terms – as you don’t want to exchange sex for anything else than sex. Keep in mind that you can easily start relationships with women by being perceived as a sex provider – these relationships will be of better quality and last longer.

MEN HAVE TO PUT THEMSELVES FORWARD AS A SEXUAL LOVER NOT A BOYFRIEND

1. By being sexual toward her and letting her know that you basically only can provide her a good time with good sex will make her believe that sex is the only thing she can get from you and therefore she doesn’t feel the need to make herself perceived as a Madonna- the purity frame will then be bypassed. A good way to make you perceived as a sex-provider is using sex talk.

2. Being sexual works so well, because it makes her perceive you as a lover (a provider of sex) but it also makes her feel that you are understanding her true nature – a woman who enjoys sex. She would therefore not put her shield up and act pure, because she will feel that you will not fall for it, nor does she has any reasons to make it so.

3. PUNISH AND REWARD BEHAVIOR A good way to reward her is by qualifying yourself to her by giving her a compliment like for example: “you are so sexy when you are being so sexually open”, but an ever better way to reward her is by escalating physically on her – reward good behaviours with physical escalation. However, if she is behaving a-sexual toward you, you can punish her by disqualifying her with the purpose of making her qualify herself back to you.

MEN......CONVEY TO WOMEN YOU DON'T JUDGE AND START TALKING ABOUT SEX

and WOMEN..START BEING SEXUAL AROUND NICE GUYS YOU LIKE..THEY do want you to be sexual!!

please POST HOW TO TALK ABOUT SEX WITH FEMALE FRIENDS (or if you're female how you'd like to talk about sex with male friends and be sexual with them) below.

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Most Helpful Guy

  • Response taken from a student in sexology on gag:

    Taken from tinder studies. Many women are having casual sex with the most attractive males behind guys back and then demand the average guys to fork over cash and take them on dates to have less tame sex:

    www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot

    "women tend to lie more about sex, which is also because they are easily labeled as "sluts" compared to guys. There have been tests where they asked a big group of females sexual questions where they had to fill in their name, then asked another group the same questions anonymously. A lot of questions had extremely different results, like how often they had casual encounters: average 1 to average 5, if they have ever cheated: 5% suddenly 30%, ... you get the picture. So yes it's true that they hide a lot of facts, but the fact that they are less oppressed now is a good thing. Depends on how you view it."

    "The age range of people we questioned anonymously was 18 to 40. There seem to be a lot of single mothers but, apparently also married women ! who use tinder to have casual sex. We didn't spend enough focus on the age classes, to conclude anything with enough proof."

    "It's also something I noticed that "porn style sex" occurs on these casual encounters and women seem to enjoy that but many don't feel comfortable doing that with a long term partner. There's the saying, it's pretty misogynistic but also holds some truth, "girls want to be treated like a princess and fucked like a slut". The thing is that is hard to form these two contradicting bonds with one partner. That's why we often see women giving it up for some guys who treat them like "sluts" and have crazy sex in no time, but take a while to put out with a serious partner. it's like the saying "alpha fucks, beta bucks". I know that this isn't the best view I'm giving on my own gender, but as a future sexologist/scientist I need to be objective, and it's a harsh truth."

    • My advice to men, especially nice men.

      1. Don't do any grand gesture romantic deed for girls unless she has earned it.

      2. Don't waste money on dates for a girl. You will most likely be the sucker she is getting attention, free meals from and whatnot. While when you finish with her she is on tinder messaging this guy to pound her pussy:

      cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...a-ac87-b429f719977e.jpg

      3. Many women will try to deflect and shame this. Say NAWLT and most women aren't hoes. The point being a lot of them are but they hide it and pretend they are "good" girls.

    • This is really solid advice. In fact your comment should be a take! Pls I wish to follow you. What you say makes a lot of sense about the wanting to be treated like a princess and fucked like a slut. Say you meet a girl when she has a boyfriend at uni. You find her attractive, can't help being friends, since you're in the same course, same social groups etc. She keeps in touch after uni, texts etc despite long distance. And when she or you visits, she makes sure to see you. Now say she is single. Is it possible to well, treat like a princess, maybe be a little cheesy or romantic by text, and well, if she wishes, to be fucked like a slut? How do you get a woman to unleash her wild side? And how are you meant to treat a woman like a slut?

    • You be straight with her and make your intention known you find her sexual attractive (via whitty flirting). You cut the small talk BS via text and arrange for a meetup as soon as possible. Be assertive and if all things indicate she's down for smashing go in for the kill. Some girls however, don't want to be appear easy and will not sleep on first date. Go out 2 more times. Give strong indication (indirectly) of an ultimatum or either start getting sexual or your going NC on her.

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  • I'm sorry this is way off.
    First of all you are assuming that most women want sex for the sake of having sex in other words that most women are promiscuous/nymphomaniacs. This is certainly not true. Sex with a women will almost always cost you. If the woman is solely exchanging sex for sex/ pleasure for pleasure than that is the closest thing to free sex you can get. If a woman is not which is the VAST majority of the cases then that sex is going to be costing YOU, the man, something. What the women expects in return for her making her vagina available to you changes per each woman. It could be money, a baby, companionship (usually of a committed class like marriage), material goods, food, going on dates, fame, etc. Men love "sluts"/sexual women because "sluts" don't ask anything of the man for anything other than sex. But that's because these women are either A) Nymphomaniacs/sex addicts or B) Have no self-respect, self-esteem or dignity. It's usually men that enjoy sex for the sake of sex because they have nothing to lose most of them time. Again, unless the woman has a very high sex drive then she will find sex taxing on her body, emotions and mind. So she WILL expect something else in return because the sex doesn't always cut it.

    This mytake is not accounting for demisexuals, lesbian/LGBT and asexual women.

    • What if: 1. You are friends with a really nice and iyo really hot woman. 2. You met her when she was taken. 3. You became great friends, each admiring each other. 4. You stay in touch after uni despite distance, texting. 5. She makes it a point to meet you and you her when either visits. 6. She is now single. 7. The guy doesn't know how to tell her she is hot, he avoided it since she was taken, and he gets nervous? A) Could the two of you hit it off in the bedroom as well as you do in convo? B) Could the two of you both being single have a threesome with a single female friend? C) In terms of exchange, would it be equitable?

    • I think a relationship could blossom if she's not taken anymore. I think threesomes are disgusting and immoral and is completely not an option for me.

    • Yes the woman is no longer taken. She is single. Given points 1-7, how would point A happen or a relationship?

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  • People seem to have the misconception that people that are against sluts are also against sex? I don't know where people got that impression.

    People that are against sluts (or casual sex with many partners) still love sex, but with one person at a time, aka in a relationship (not just whoring themselves out). And that goes for both genders.

    • But would a woman have sex with a guy who delivers an attractive persona and is simply sexual, even though she knows him barely (varying from hours to a day or two) and he will not be around the next day. Or would she have sex with the nice confident charming guy who wants to get to know her, befriends her genuinely liking both her body and mind? And who will be around afterwards? Cos it seems like they go for the 1st one. They don't display their sexual side with the 2nd. And maybe lose out right? What about say a guy friend who she met when she had a boyfriend. She really gets on with the guy friend. He cares about her. And yeah he's attractive. Now she is single. Would she not be sexual with him rather than a new guy who again, is just sexual toward her, no friends stuff?

    • OP, this where you find your self in a losing battle with your Argument. You need to change the " get sexual with a nice guy friend" to a " Consider a relationship with a nice guy friend" now you are talking our language, and it is generally more respectful this way. If you continue to just base your idealogies on "why not fuck a nice guy" then you are spinning your wheels.

  • Women should quickly have sex with nice guys so nice guys can use and throw them away just like jerks do.

    • But a nice guy wouldn't do that? The whole point is, a nice guy wants to know her. Having sex with him will reward his positive behavior. It also won't put him off in terms of opening up to you nor put him off if he thinks you aren't into him when you are far more flirty with other guys who display jerk like behavior. Here is an example, what do you think?

    • Sophia meets Jack who is charming and asks her out. They go on a date, he is nice, confident and has a great job etc. They hit it off. He pays. Afterwards Sophia thinks he is a great guy, thinks about going out again and planning their wedding in her head. She wants to take it slow so not to lose him. In the mean time she runs into Tim who doesn't have a nice car, etc like Jack. He is very casual and gives off a relaxed vibe. He flirts with her, and after getting her to laugh she feels some attraction and agrees to go for a drink at his place. The two of them start talking and touching there and then the sexual tension results in Sophia sleeping with Tim. She really enjoys it. Afterwards, they eat some leftovers in his fridge and then they sleep together again. Sophia goes home thinking wow that sex was great and feels fulfilled. She's now confused, cos she thought she liked Jack, but there's something about Tim

    • A few days to a week after their first date, Jack decides it's time to call Sophia again and asks her out on a date. Sophia is now unsure about her feelings. She doesn't want to upset Jack so agrees and they go out to another expensive show at the theatre/movie which Jack pays for. Once again they depart on good terms. Sophia had a good time. Sophia is texting back and forth with Tim having initiated herself. She agrees to meet up with him. This time they order a take out at her place. Sophia sleeps with Tim again three times that night. She feels so good and doesn't know how, but she thinks about Tim over the next few days just as Jack asks her out again, which she agrees to. After their third date (this time her favorite dance class), she departs. She likes Jack, but keeps thinking about the wild sex she had with the less got his shit together Tim. Tim decides yeah he likes Sophia a little and asks her out. The two go out and Jack wonders what he did wrong?

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  • "Opinion is either too long or too short."
    Fuck you, GaG. It was 2,496 characters, by your own count. Yes, that is VERY long, but it fits into your built in criteria. Fucking stupid.

    Ok. I will break it into 3 chunks, and post it in replies to this post.

    • I could not disagree strongly enough. I have no issue with men being sexual. I have no problem with women being sexual. In fact, one thing absolutely correct about this is that men WANT their women to be sexual, and proud of their sexuality and sexual desires! But not at the cost of approved and accepted promiscuity! For EITHER gender! I see sex as something that has inherent value. If it is something people are encouraged to simply give away for free (as this piece puts it, trading sex for sex), it loses its value OUTSIDE that market. Why should any man ever put the work, effort, and hardship, physical, mental, and emotional, into being the second type of provider, in the hope of being rewarded with what some other guy got with a few cheap lines and a drink order?

    • I don't like this piece for one simple reason. It suggests "men are promiscuous and would have sex with any attractive woman they could, and thus women should be just as sexual open."

    • Put another way: If I met 2 women, equally beautiful, kind, smart, etc, and discovered they had both had 5 sexual partners, and that 1 woman had been in relationships of some kind with all 5, that simply ended for whatever reason, and the second woman had simply picked up her 5 at bars or clubs or whatever, what would be my inclination? I would have a higher opinion of, and be more interested in pursuing, sexually and romantically, the woman who had been in relationships. She saved her sexual wants and desires for someone who would be committed to her, and that speaks to me of quality of character, maturity, and how much she respects herself. I do not hate the other woman. I do not see her as slut or whore. I do not think she should face punishment, criminal or social. I do not think any authority should enforce MY morals on HER.

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  • Yes, this is what the world needs... more promiscuous sex! And then you will probably turn around and say "where are all the virgins/pure girls?" There is a reason sex is saved for the confinements of marriage, or the very least a long term committed monogamous relationship. Get your jollies off with a hooker if all you want is sex, they never say no!

    • THIS

    • @dominiquois high-five girl!

    • :D :D *high fives*

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  • The only shit I keep seeing was NICE GUYS

    You know real nice guys are selfless and dont demand shit right?

    • Ok, but put it this way. Sophia meets Jack who is charming and asks her out. They go on a date, he is nice, confident and has a great job etc. They hit it off. He pays. Afterwards Sophia thinks he is a great guy, thinks about going out again and planning their wedding in her head. She wants to take it slow so not to lose him. In the mean time she runs into Tim who doesn't have a nice car, etc like Jack. He is very casual and gives off a relaxed vibe. He flirts with her, and after getting her to laugh she feels some attraction and agrees to go for a drink at his place. The two of them start talking and touching there and then the sexual tension results in Sophia sleeping with Tim. She really enjoys it. Afterwards, they eat some leftovers in his fridge and then they sleep together again. Sophia goes home thinking wow that sex was great and feels fulfilled. She's now confused, cos she thought she liked Jack, but there's something about Tim

    • A few days to a week after their first date, Jack decides it's time to call Sophia again and asks her out on a date. Sophia is now unsure about her feelings. She doesn't want to upset Jack so agrees and they go out to another expensive show at the theatre/movie which Jack pays for. Once again they depart on good terms. Sophia had a good time. Sophia is texting back and forth with Tim having initiated herself. She agrees to meet up with him. This time they order a take out at her place. Sophia sleeps with Tim again three times that night. She feels so good and doesn't know how, but she thinks about Tim over the next few days just as Jack asks her out again, which she agrees to. After their third date (this time her favorite dance class), she departs. She likes Jack, but keeps thinking about the wild sex she had with the less got his shit together Tim. Tim decides yeah he likes Sophia a little and asks her out. The two go out and Jack wonders what he did wrong?

    • Now did Jack demand shit? Why did Sophia take it slow with him? And do you see what happened? Thoughts?

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  • I just love watching the male brain on acid

  • Their "slut defense" is kinda useless anyway if in the end of the year they had many different cocks on them, and it's kinda stupid when slutty girl try to act as if she is an virgin.

    • Yes so how to encourage them to open up sexually or display their sexuality to the nice guys?

    • Simple, just tell them that there is no much point in playing innocent if they are slutty, as many radfems love to do, while they protest against porn and get sensitive just because some man had looked at them in an sexual way, while at the same time they are slutting around like no tomorrow, but with that said you would alway take into an count that some women are truly modest and pure, and they would not be driven by desire, but instead keep their virtue for for the right man.

  • Men want women to be more sexual for them in relationships not nessesarily for them to be more promiscuous.

    It is possible for a woman to be sexual but not promiscuous.

  • Not everyone is well suited for casual sex, depending on the woman, even after 1 partner other than their husband marriage success rate drops from 80% to 50% and continues to drop with every partner until 6/7 where it stays at about 15%-20% chance of success. Stable families to raise children are the cornerstone of a healthy society.

    Your right about dropping the bullshit judgments and such but people should be true to them selves not some ideology or religion.

  • I agree that most men want women to be more sexual. Ironically, it's the ones who they are more inclined to have sex with who are turned off by sexual forwardness.

    • Clarify the last part? As for women yes. Why is it they are more sexual with someone who doesn't text them or want to get to know them?

    • Really promiscuous, slutty men who sleep around a lot like it when women make them work for it. Guys who are shy and inexperienced prefer it to be easy. Yet women think it's the other way around, and give it up for the slutty guy fast while making the shy one wait and work for it.

    • So why do they do that and not reward the nice shy guy and instead sleep with the slutty guy who won't be around the day after?

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  • No way sluts turn me off, and I would only have sex with someone who has modesty, and doesn't show off there body, and this applies to all genders

  • Thank you. This whole 'slut defense' is just bullshit, both for guys and for women themselves. Act on your sexual desires, we hate it when you keep us guessing.
    If you want to fuck, just fucking fuck for fucks sake.

  • Us guys want sluts at times br good to them

  • You're right!

    They should all act like total whores all the time with no class whatsoever!!!

    (This is sarcasm by the way)

    What do you think they do in the bedroom anyway any time they want to? (Assuming they have a guy to do it with)

    • No the point being: 1. Will a woman sleep with a nice confident caring guy who displays interest in their body and their mind. Who is friendly with them and around for a long time. 2. Or a purely sexual man who just happens to arouse her a little when he meets her (for hours or maybe a day or two), doesn't display any real interest in who she is or being friendly, and isn't around after the act? 3. An attractive friend who she met when she had a boyfriend. Now she is single. The guy friend is single and still attractive and caring to her. Or would she opt for a new purely sexual person or a guy who isn't as caring?

  • Hmmm, interesting point of view...

    • True?

    • Ok. This was a very long discussion. But I read most of it. I think, you were the providing, caring guy, and your girl cheated on you with a worthless yet sexually expert guy. Whether it was really like this, or you think it was, or she made it look like it was, doesn't matter. Bottom line is you are hurt, and you want to do better next time, and now you are confused about what to do to be successful this time. My question is, why didn't you just ask the question directly? It seems like you may have a problem or two going on in your mind. You are trying to succeed too hard, you sound like you must succeed at any cost, and you sound too controlling. Of course you seem like a very great and nice person who is dealing with more traumatic stress than you can take. I'm worried about you and your future relationships. Please get some help, see a therapist or join a support group. What I see is that iceberg effect. Above the surface you just seem to have a relationship question, but...

    • ... but below the surface there is lots of pain and confusion, and a very strong obsession with success, but the way you presented your question shows that there is a person here who is VERY VERY VERY MUCH IN DENIAL of their entire spectrum of emotions, specially the negative ones, and definitely suffers from the lack of skills to manage and understand their own emotions. I know this because I have been in therapy for quite a while, and I see my past in you. You need a complete personality makeover, a process that polishes your beliefs and lets your great REAL personality shine through. And you need a good way to deal with the pain you've been through in the past. (I wonder how this obvious matter just escaped all the other opinion owners.)...

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