How do I keep a conversation going after a guy finds out I'm a nuclear engineer and stares at me bug-eyed for a minute? What actually prompts this behavior? I mean, I don't glow. I'm not a preying mantis. Even asking if I've gotten super powers from working with radiation is better than just 'the stare'.
How do I avoid scaring guys off with the fact that I'm educated and self-sufficient? I don't demand that a guy be higher in status than I am. As long as our personalities click, I'm pretty good with any career path, especially if the guy likes what he does. And yet, after an initial conversation, it seems like most guys put me in a box somewhere labeled "out of my league"? Or is it a box labeled "too nerdy"?
Honestly? I think it's awesome that you are as intelligent and educated as you are. If guys have issues with it, they're not the right guy for you. But me, personally, I think it's a turn on when a girl can do better than me at things I'm good at. And I'm a bookworm (specifically, history)
Apologies if I over simplify this but date more intelligent men. :)
You'll find that a lot of men still cling onto the old stereotype that they ought to be physically and mentally more developed than women. So when a man goes out and finds out that the woman can actually split atoms and talk nuclei and fusion he may withdraw because his manhood is at stake.
Go out, have fun, date a few guys and eventually you'll find your own personal quark who is comfortable with your profession and is drawn not only to your beauty but to your brains as well and the two of you will be bound by strong interaction... That is all I remember from physics. :)
^_^ I love intelligent women. Much more interesting than some of the shallow one sided bricks out there. - 5 months ago
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Well, at least they've got the physical part. I also wonder if they think the blonde is an act. It's not - yeah, I can do higher math, but sometimes walking or basic bits of life are beyond me. - 5 months ago
Well just don't insult his intelligence. I've met some girls who were scientist before. I was not turned off. It is a little intimidating meeting a girl that has a job such as your own. If I were the guy I would probably feel inclined to tell you that I am a paper sales man, when really I am a top secret spy for the CIA. James bond style. I would find your job interesting but I would be turned off if you talked about it and I had no idea what you were talking about. And after you realized that I had no idea what you were talking about you stopped talking about it. I mean it's not that the guy is stupid it just may not be the stuff he thinks about or ever talks about on a daily basis. You may need to explain things to him in layman terms.
Other than that I would just talk about other hobbies you have and other interest. If you have to dumb down conversation when you talk about these other interest or hobbies you may want to find a different guy.
That is brilliant! I believe there are few highly educated people in general out in the world, and sadly but true according to statistics even less among woman. And because you are so "unique" it would be hard to find someone else as "unique" as you. It is a matter of simple statistics. If it was up to me all woman should be extremely highly educated, including men, but it is very much needed in todays "male dominated" society.
I find intelligent and educated girls really hot, don't degrade yourself to stupid men.
First--If a guy is threatened by intelligence (or simply doesn't understand what it is that you do) and that bothers you, then move on to the next one. There are hundreds of millions of us out here you know.
Second--If you are "scaring guys off" by simply being yourself, then you have a fundamental decision to make...change who you are or change who you are talking to. I would generally advise the latter course of action for the sake of your sanity.
Third--If you are simply meeting the wrong guys, go someplace else to meet them...exactly where depends on your personality and preferences.
Fourth--I don't mean for this to sound harsh but you need to thoroughly examine if the reason that the conversation stops or the attraction fades is actually related to your chosen field or if that is just a facade. It may be something else...for example: I bet if a guy were attracted to a girl that loved physical activities, was a bar fly, was in to a certain type of music (say rap or country), loved to gamble, football, and traveling to exotic places and all of this was you...do you really think that he would care if you were a nuclear engineer or a hamburger flipper (not that there is anything wrong with either profession!) Probably not.
By the way, I list all of these things because I would not normally associate them with a nuclear engineer but perhaps this is who you are???
So be yourself and the right person for you will enjoy you for who you are not what your career is to become.
Dr. Phil, If you are reading this...watch out here I come!
Stop thinking logically and start thinking more about how you affect men emotionally.
Also, accept your superiority. Seriously. Being a nuclear science grad student who probably has excellent grades, you are going to only have a small percentage of the population be able to keep up with you mentally. Accept that and learn to make conversations smaller in simpler easier to digest parts. Dumb it down! Focus more on how you make guys feel emotionally, what *they* find fun, and find a common denominator. It may seem simpler at times, but hey at least your both of you are having fun and you achieved your goal.
I don't know you so I can't say this for sure, but do you think you might be too picky? I know if a girl turns on a guy, (you look pretty good up there btw) that nerd, out of their league or not most guys won't run away.
Date geeks. Geeks would also stare at you bug-eyed, but out of straight-up info-lust. Education is sexy and if you are currently intimidating guys, perhaps you need to aim for a higher intellectual level.
Unfortunately, intellect like yours often comes with social ineptitude of varying degrees. This is something you should just be prepared for. In the end, geeks are the only way to go. And highly trainable, to boot.
Well, the response is prompted by the stereotype that girls aren't good at math. With due respect to Danica McKeller, I'm guessing that the field is fairly slanted toward men. If you told me that I wouldn't stare at you so much as I'd give you the squint, head back, half smirk "you're full of it" look. And then I'd ask you to explain the significance of Buckey Balls to me. The answer wouldn't matter much since I'd have no idea what you were saying... And that's kind of the problem. Engineering students will know how to talk about that stuff with you, but, by and large, they are a quieter, more introspective set of people, so conversations will not flow smoothly. I think you'd want to move the topic away from what you do and on to more general topics. Talk about your family, hobbies, music, etc. and allow a conversation to flow from there. It stinks, but you probably will have to smooth yourself over during initial conversations. The smartest girl I was ever involved with was one I met in a Constitutional law class. During our first conversations everything was pretty general (with no unbalanced discussions focused on law, and, thank God, none in French either where I struggled mightily, but not valiantly - sullenly really) and it was only with time that complexity entered in.
I think that a lot of it might be that many guys want to be able to provide for their girl, and want to be able to shine in front of her. You know how the original Star Wars video cover looked and also National Lampoon's Vacation cover looked? The man standing tall, with rippling muscles and his woman holding onto him. I kinda took off with that,... but I hope that I made my point too.
I think that a lot of guys might feel like that they could never live up to what you do and be able to impress you.
You: "Work was crazy, our cooling systems went offline, and then the failsafes failed, so I had to put on a radiation suit and go into the reactor core and manually deactivate the core. It was dangerous, but if I would not have done that, everyone in the city would have died from the meltdown."
Him: "Yea, wow. You know work was crazy for me too at the copy shop. We had to get 10,000 flyers for the new chili burrito sale printed for the next door restaurant, and the copiers went down. So, I had to drive down the street, and process the order there. But they were out of ink, so I had to drive back to my store, and get ink, then drive back, but I got the wrong size,... so back and forth again. But, I got the order filled just in time. I didn't really want to do all that driving, but I knew that if I didn't, thousands of people would have overpaid for their burritos."
Again,... I let that get away,... but I think that this might be what is going through their heads. But like some other people said, if these guys are running, then it's better that you figure out soon, rather than invest time into a relationship, that will eventually fall apart later.
You will eventually find a man that doesn't worry about that, and is comfortable enough with himself, to be able to really give you what you need. Sometimes though, it can take a while to find the right person. Just make sure that you realize that it's an issue with these guys and not you, so make sure you don't start to get frustrated and settle for anything less than what you really need and want.
Best of luck with finding what you really want.
I know I went on quite a bit, but I did want to ask,.... have you gotten super powers? Or have any of your co-workers? That would be such a better company perk than a stock option, or a holiday ham.
Sadly, no superpowers yet. I'm still waiting. I *do* learn fun stuff like the fact that you can eat plutonium with no problem. You just can't inhale it. :D - 8 months ago
Wow, if you're in an engineering school, I would imagine it would be so easy to meet intelligent guys within your league. After all, if they are engineering students, aren't they smart as you?
Anyway, if the guys you meet run away because you're too smart for them, then consider yourself blessed cause they are saving you the trouble of you wasting time with dummies.
Now, if you don't want to scare them right away, then just say you're an engineering student, without the nuclear in front of it. Maybe that helps some. However, it seems to me that maybe you need to start finding other places where to meet intelligent guys; surprising though, as I thought most engineering dudes were damn smart. :S
Well, the problem isn't the intelligence, it's the engineering part - some are way too screwed up for a relationship. I'll have to start contemplating other places to meet guys, maybe find the ones that *won't* be crazy stalkers... - 9 months ago
If you haven't found a guy that doesn't want to date an educated and self-sufficient woman, then simply the guys you have met aren't very good. Yes it probably puts you in a box labeled "out of my league" but do you want to be with a guy who thinks you are too smart for him and doesn't actually appreciate your intelligence?
Very true, I'm just apparently not finding the good ones. Of course, I'm at an engineering school where many guys put anything female in the "out of my league box", but you'd think there would be some, somewhere... - 9 months ago
I am in a similar situation. I have earned two masters degrees, and I hate being asked what I went to college for. I too, get placed in the "too nerdy box" all the time. I was told by one guy (who never called afterwards) that I was a geek and that was weird. So my advice is keep looking. Eventually you will meet that person who won't be intimidated by your career path and independence.
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