My boyfriend and I just reconciled recently (we have broken up and gotten back together so many times) and he was more attentive to me than ever. We were broke up for a month and he says it was hell for him. His "kid's mother" seems to be putting pressure on him and using her child as a pawn to get back with him since we been together. I've been trying to open his eyes, and not to mention the kid isn't even biologically his!
We got into a big argument about it and I tell him that I wanted to meet his kid's mother. I want to see their interaction with each other and see if he still has feelings for her even though he says he doesn't. He tells me that I can meet her on Friday (which was yesterday).
The afternoon I was supposed to meet her I ask him if I'm still going with him to drop his 'daughter' off and meet the mother. He gives me this story about her not having a car and she's all depressed and blah blah blah. I am wondering if he has something to hide or something and I am p*ssed about it. It seems like he cares more about her feelings than he does about mine. I tell him not to call me anymore and now I'm hurting because I love him so much. What should I do?
Update: I don't have anything against the child, but it seems like the child's mother is using her child as a clutch to get my boyfriend back. She is asking him for things that is outside of what he can provide and she's playing the crying game.
A month ago
Update: My boyfriend finally took me to see the child's mother on Halloween, now there is more drama! See my new question. Geez!
18 days ago
Update: All your answers really helped me its hard to pick a best answer!
18 days ago
He is the mother of his child correct? Can't trust a B*tchy female with a son. I feel you forgeting he has other obligations to her and you. If he's with you and shows it then show him you won't take him for granted and how much better off he is with you than her. The child is a perfect excuse. If I was you I would also use it to my advantage and ask your boyfriend if you him and the child can go to a fun place and enjoy the day together so you leave an impression on the child that the mother would watch her step.
example - go see a movie the child would like and go eat his fav food making him think your cool.
Dont blame his ex, it is he who is to be blamed for behaving this way with you. It is understandable that you feel angry with him for not giving you the importance that you deserve. Break up with him for good.
I think you should move on. You're too young to deal with this kind of craziness in your life. Whether the kid is biologically his or not, I do think if he's seen as "dad", he needs to be there for it. The fact that he hooked up with a nut job of a girl is his fault and he shouldn't be so quick to leave his responsibilities. If he does, he'll create another insecure girl with daddy issues who will be the focus of more topics on here about why girls love jerks.
Hey babe, I'd like to help by asking you some questions:
1) Of the 6billion+ people on the Earth, how many have you had relationships with? 2) Do you feel you might be jealous because his attention is not entirely on you? 3) How would you feel if the child was his, and he broke up with you for her? 4) If you proved the child wasn't his, would it make him more attracted to you? 5) Have you asked yourself if he might be having an affair? 6) If he was having an affair, how would you react? 7) If you started seeing one of your past relations, how do you think it would make him feel? 8) If you answered "jealous" to question #7, do you think he already knows how you feel now? 9) Say you accept that he might be having an affair with his ex.. If you be the woman NOW, by telling him you're taking a break from the relationship, SAY "NO" to any arguments he might bring up after..even if he acts all sappy & phones you every day after..
now say you kept your options open for 2 weeks, and by the end of that time he did not say that he would give up his ex, would you proudly move on to the billions of other men, or would unhappily choose to be stuck in your past fighting a losing battle?
What does your female instinct suggest after your thoughts? Your INTUITION about men is your strongest power when dealing with men, and you know that very well better than myself! Find a female friend, or internet buddy if you must that will support your intuition and your choices as you feel your way around his motives, and help you stay strong as you may feel unwilling to give him up if you must.
This isn't a problem with his ex, it's a problem with you.
If you're insecure and jealous about his ex girlfriends, then everything you're doing is pushing him away.
If you're ever unsure if a relationship is over, ask yourself this... do you ever feel resentment from him, or towards him? If you answer yes, then it's over.
There's nothing that helps you forget an ex boyfriend like a new guy worth getting to know, ~ Robby
Thanks for the advice, and I have to admit I am insecure about our relationship. I was secure until a situation happened that almost wrecked us. I do hold some anger against him because of some of the problems we go through. It;s tempting to get a new guy, but I wouldn't want to rebound and hurt the other guy's feelings. We would have to be friends first until I could fully recover from my previous relationship. - A month ago
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You know yourself better then me... but I always call B.S. on avoiding the rebounds.
If you're honest and upfront with the next guy by saying "I just got out of a weird relationship and now all I want is fun, so don't get attached" and if he's game, then have all the fun you can, without the need of feeling guilty. Guy's can relate to not wanting something serious. Being friends first is a waste of time.
That will ease you out of a bad past situation, and into a better one. YES! - 29 days ago
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Thanks again! You really helped me out. - 18 days ago
Like how the guy was with this other woman with a child. Was he responsible for the child being here for instance? (even if it isn't biologically his).
I would say, push this guy back to his previous relationship (if they panned children together). Otherwise you splitting up something.
If he got truly lulled into a relationship with someone who already had kids (and he had not responsibility for) then just fight for your love.
Just don't mess around where kids are concerned. If he has been with his ex for a long time and the kids grown up with him, send him packing.
The child isn't his but at first he thought it was. The girl got pregnant and everything while they were together and all that time he thought it was his. He caught her in bed with another man so he got a blood test and turns out the child wasn't his. He's still in the child's life buying her things and acting like a father. Its wild to me because the child knows he isn't her father, and doesn't call him daddy she calls him by his first name. - A month ago
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It doesn't sound healthy that. Fair enough, I am still friends with my ex, but if she had kids I wouldn't be round playing with them, would be too weird. At least to my mind at the moment.
I wouldn't know what to make of him either. I guess you need to sit him down and find out where he thinks everythings going with his ex, the kid and him. If your happy with the answers fight for him, if not well, maybe you decide to find someone new.
This guy sounds nuts. All of the drama surrounding the conception of this child would be enough to have me packing. He has low self-esteem and I guess he'll get, and has gotten, what he deserves, which is a lack of love since he doesn't love himself. - 25 days ago
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LOL AP, he is nuts and I'm starting to see that now. Its a shame I wasted 5-6 months with this guy. Love hurts. :( - 18 days ago
Exactly! I feel like if you have nothing to hide then what's the problem? I would have to meet her eventually if you plan on marrying me. - A month ago
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Ok it sounds like you guys are have a lot of problems already really is he worth the trouble - 29 days ago
What should I do?" IDK. The problem might be the kid. If he's attached to the kid, it's normal he wants to see it, biological father or not. A man who raises a kid will often ends up considering it as his. (I at least would and I know others!) An arrangement with his ex about the kid would be best.
PS, It would be way better for the kid too: it would give it more stability. Kids need stability! - A month ago
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I agree, but I think the mother uses the child as a clutch to get back with him. - A month ago
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That's why I wrote "an arrangement": it could/ would draw some limits and boundaries. If he doesn't get to see the kid at all, he will want it more than if the kid comes over to your place a weekend/ month or fortnight and spends some vacations with you. Much depends on the age of that kid (baby, toddler, teenager?), on her mother willing to get into some kind of agreement about it.If she's pulling him towards the kid she can't refuse very well without showing her hand) and on your hospitality. - A month ago
Oh hell every time I hear a guy has a kid to another woman I stayed away. Nothing personal to them, but that woman has a kid to them, and sometimes they will use the kid as a leash to get back the man, be it for money, sex, attention for the child. Always seems to cause some turmoil in the future. If only condoms didn't break.
Ok I think you should be mad I would want to meet his baby mama too if he makes it seem like something is going on. I love kids and my fiance has a possible baby. I have been to court with him for dna testing and child support court and I have met the baby mama. If he won't let you meet her something is going on and you have the right to stop it so you demand it one more time to meet her and if it doesn't happen you leave and he will be running back to prove you wrong if he realizes you are the one. And if they are not sleeping together.
theres probably nothing harder to do than watch a man you love be manipulated by someone. it makes them seem weak and makes you wonder if there are feelings keeping him under her control. I wouldn't say its feelings he has for her as much as it is his inability to stand up for himself. you have to decide if you're up to watching her control him which in turn controls you to a degree. it sounds like he really cares about you and maybe the child too, so maybe he's worth it but its going to be hard on you unless he can grow a backbone.
Okay, I read the first paragraph, then stopped reading. I have one sentence to say to you... "It's called a breakup because it's broken." Memorize it. It's a book, a brilliant one. Chances are, if you've broken up more than once, you should stay that way.
I'm sure you've got the standard "he gets me", "we have chemistry", "I love him", etc. etc... but the fact of the matter is that you keep breaking up. Meaning that one or both of you are doing something that is wrong, or you're just incompatible. Which, that's okay because there's MANY men out there that you'll have a wonderful relationship with.
They may something that looks like love, but love isn't enough in a healthy LTR. You're right; the drama of endless breakups indicates something is wrong. - 25 days ago
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I have to pick up that book. Thank you! - 3 days ago
If this guy has been sweet since you got back together and is willing to do what you need in order to feel happy and satisfied in the relationship he has GOT to let you meet the mother. I would suggest to him that you would like to meet the mother because you would LOVE for the little girl to spend the weekend with you and you want the MOTHER to see what kind of person you are so she would feel comfortable. Play the nice guy. You want to be kind to his kid. The Ex woman whatever she is will get so insanely jealous she will probably threaten to take the kid out of his life completely (had friends in similar situations by the way) if he brings her around you or goes somewhere with you for the weekend. Truth is, the kid isn't his, he feels bad abandoning the kid. I think most of it has to do with the kid probably because he has taken care of her for a while and feels attached. I doubt it is the ex, she knows you exist and if something is going on, then you know what to do. I would try playing the nice guy though (even though you want to freak out) because being hostile or insecure/jealous doesn't get anyone anywhere. You want to appear like the strong person here, so then he goes wow my girlfriend is so incredibly cool, look at my whining complaining ex. & hey she's an ex for a reason right? he caught her with another guy didn't he? if he runs back to that you're better off without him because he is a total dumb ass. It really sounds like he got suckered in by the kid, but doesn't want to be with her.
ps. I can pretty much bet that if you make up a fun weekend for this kid (your idea make sure she knows that) the mom won't let it happen and confirm your idea that she wants your man. Continue to plan outings, she will get so frustrated she will take the kid away and poof you solve both problems. No more ex...no more kid that isn't his. lol.
You can't use the kid as a pawn on either side. This kid has been through enough with this promiscuous mom and crazy dad; she doesn't need yet another person playing a parent role. - 25 days ago
To be honest with you I truly thinks that he still have lots of feelings for his child mother. It is very strange to me that he does not want you to meet the mother of his child. (strange).It sounds to me that they are closer than what he is making this out to be. maybe he is still in love with her.( just my opinion) you just can not trust men or figure them out.
You can trust men who don't have craziness in their lives. Those of us who don't carry baggage, who are open on every issue, and who act trustworthy can be trusted. The OP wants to date a weak, passive aggressive guy and expect to get a healthy result. You can't date an elephant and expect it to say "moo" - 25 days ago
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Thats what I thought. After the mom dropped the little girl off he says 'I guess she is going out on a date or something' and I'm like wtf do you care if she is or not? He p*sses me off. - 3 days ago
Womens intuition and gut feelings are usually dead-on. The fact that you wrote asking if he is hiding something tells you your intuition is kicking in. Are there other things he hides? The mother doesn't have a car. Well, who has been driving her around? Where does your boyfriend live? Does he call you everyday? Are you able to reach him anytime via telephone? I wonder if he's playing both sides or if he is just uncomfortable. I dated a man who had kids and I met the mother and really liked her a lot. We got along great. Even when the kids were at my place she knew she could call anytime to talk to them. And, I even told her she could stop by anytime. There was definitely no feelings between him and the mom. You should have that same comfort. You have a right to be angry and I'm surprised you are putting up with it. Tell this guy in a nice way how you feel and that you'll give him a time frame...like 2 weeks. You'd like to meet the mom in 2 weeks or you will end the relationship because it's not healthy for you feeling this way. He may not have even told the mom about you so this gives him a window of opportunity to make things right and tell the mom about you instead of you showing up like a surprise. Just a suggestion.
The one thing I would add though is whilst I agree womans intuition is usually dead on, what I've experienced to be often wrong is the perceived trigger cause or explaination of the intuition.
Assigning the wrong explaination to the intuition can lead to the worst mixups and lack of mutual trust between the couple (since if you falsely accuse your partner of infidelity, when the real problem is he's been lying because he doesn't know how to pay the rent.. well - 25 days ago
He obviously has an attachment to this little girl. I have to concur that based on what was written that the mother is using her as a means to keep him in her life. He probably has great guilt if he isn't "there" for the little girl. Unfortunately, he does not see or is in denial about this woman's blatant manipulation. If he doesn't have feelings for the mother and he has nothing to hide, then you should meet her. It's a simple remedy for this problem. His failure to follow through sends out a huge red flag. I think you need to acknowledge that as long as you are both together, this little girl will be in his life. Until he separates being a father versus manipulation then your struggles will continue. If you can help him identify this then you've won half the battle. If you can't then you'll have to decide if stay or go. Good luck.
Hey babe, I'd like to help by asking you some questions: Of the 6billion+ people on the Earth, how many have you really gotten to know yet? Do you feel you might be jealous because his attention is not entirely on you? How would you feel if the child was his, and he broke up with you for her? If you proved the child wasn't his, would it make him more attracted to you? Have you asked yourself if he might be having an affair? If he was having an affair, how would you react? (continued...) Diamond - 29 days ago
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