This might be more of a grievance as opposed to a question.
Basically why has "hooking up" become so prevalent among people nowadays? Especially the people in my age group? I mean it seems so hypocritical that guys and girls nowadays are so obsessed with relationships, yet they participate in what is basically one night stand over one night stand every weekend. Even the people on this website clamour on and on about love and soul mates and "the one" but it's also preceded by "So I hooked up with this guy the other night. Is it love?" Huh?
Now I don't know if I'm just bitter because I've grown up with the assumption that guys asked girls out on, you know, DATES. In college when I asked girls out they would tell me I was "too foward" and would deny me. But the guy that gets you drunk at the frat party is game? Are you serious? Now I'm not saying I'm a stunningly attractive guy. I can hold my own, but I don't expect every girl to accept my offers, but when you overlook me for the beer pong champion at a party later that night because you had too much jungle juice, it kinda seems whore like to me. And then the next day you and him are Facebook husband and wife, and you can't stop talking about how you felt "chemistry" with him and it was love at first sight. What? And this isn't even the low class women. Even the pretty, smart and educated girls that are worth while do this shit.
Now I'm not complaining. Not by a long shot. The relationships that I have gotten from asking women out and dating them have been pretty amazing. You appreciate the person more and usually end the relationship on more mature terms. These "hookups" on the other hand end up cheating on each other because they really don't even know each other and since their relationship has been based on a random f***, it's doomed from the start.
So am I wrong to have disdain to this phenomenon that is the hook up culture? I'm all for women being free with their sexuality and I have no place in telling you how to live your life, but you really can't say you're a decent woman if you base your relationships off of drunk hook ups and then treat them like they are matches made in heaven.
Is this just a college thing? Is this just the way our society as evolved?
Had to get that off my chest. No one I've talked to has been able to explain it.
I completely agree with what your saying and I can relate to this a bit. I'm a freshman in college and I like to go out and party. I went out with some friends of mine and met a guy that I thought was hot and hooked up with him. We kept talking for awhile after that, but it just wasn't what I was looking for. I prefer to have a guy ask me out and treat me like a lady and not just f*** then expect to make something out of it. So I think you will find that some girls may follow the stereotype but deep down they want something meaningful and will later come to realize they want a real man not a man wh*re. I know I have learned from my experience and will be giving nice gentleman like guys a chance and I won't go for the big partier that just wants a one night stand. I learned my lesson :)
I'm glad you realize there is a difference between hooking up and dating, but on the other hand you said that women will come to realize they want a real man after they have f***ed around. Why should I even look twice at a girl that whored herself out during her prime and now all of a sudden wants to be treated like a lady? You can't have your cake and eat it too. Hooking up must be a lot easier for women because it seems like you can do it when you want and then quit when you want. - More than a year ago
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Alright I said I hooked up once. I never said this was an everyday occurrence for me. So what if I made a mistake once, it's something I learned from and won't let happen again. I was trying to give you some insight about it and you completely tore it apart so sorrryy for trying to help!! ugh - More than a year ago
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Take it easy baby. We agree to disagree. No hard feelings. Like I said before, I'm not trying to judge. You're a grown woman. You can do what you want. I'm just not the type to take some college jock's sloppy seconds. I'm sure all the woman I've been with have been with other men before me, and I've been with other women. History is history. But a mindset is a mindset. Fooling around randomly in college and then expecting a man to just accept you is pretty self-indulgent. - More than a year ago
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Im pretty sure you've probably taken in your words "sloppy seconds" of a jock at college before and didn't even realize it..... And no matter what I say you keep making it out to seem like that I fool around all the time with random guys.....it happened ONCE! Every girl makes mistakes at some point in her life. Also I sense a bit of jealousy for jocks? am I right? maybe a bad high school experience or something since you keep categorizing them and such... just a guess :) - More than a year ago
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Haha. I'm about to give you the best answer. This is good. First, I am not jealous. I used jock in the sense of just an average college dude. Not athlete or anything. No bad experiences. I was an athlete myself in high school. Good times. Second, I was not singling you out. I got nothing but love for you. I wouldn't consider you sloppy seconds at all. And third I never dated anyone here at USC. So no sloppy seconds Lady Trojans for me, ha. Just calm down. hehe. - More than a year ago
I don't get it either all my best friends are breaking up or already did break up with there boyfriends so they can have fun and so how many guys thy can hook up with. Personally I like being in a relationship so much better because you have someone that actually cares about you. I think now adays its more acceptable to hook up because people don't want to have to make a commitment to one person but who really knows if some one does I would like to know to
I think it is partly because our society/culture has become so much more liberated. Women are now more, open, independent, aggressive, and they see themselves equal to men. If men can have one night stands, then why can't we? Just like men, some women have sexual needs too. I think the reason why they hook up more in bars/clubs/parties, or any event that involves alcohol, is because they loosen up more, having alcohol in them. They become more friendly, horny, aggressive, flirty, etc. Then a random guy comes along, maybe cute, or whatever, gives that girl attention, they flirt all night, and then "hook up". I'm not saying all but most people FLIRT a lot when they are drunk, and flirting leads to horniness. I'm sure you've experienced that too. But anyway, the reason why these girls start having feelings for the guy after theyv had sex, is because SOME of them, feel vulnerable all of a sudden. They don't want to feel used for just sex, and so they try to start a relationshp with him. The guy on the other hand is thinking, well I liked the sex, and shez cute, so why not give it a shot. And they eventually learn to like/love each other. In most cases, that kind of relationship doesn't work. But there are some relationships I know, that succeeded. Now, I might be wrong about this, because I have never had a one night stand before. Call me REALLY old fashioned, but sex means alil more than just sex. wow that didn't make sense :/ but you know what I'm trying to say. I can't have sex with a guy unless I have feelings for him, and I know he does for me. Most of the girls I go out with "hook up", everytime. And that ismostly what they talk about. They get mad at me for never going home with ANY guy. I just cant. I go to bars to drink and unwind. Play pool, have fun. Not look for sex, or a boyfriend. Because when I have alcohol in my system, I'm not really thinking/seeing clear enough to choose the man I want to be with. I mean, hell, I get fooled even when I'm sober! So --- Although this is the way I am, I don't see "others" as whores or whatever. I mean, like I said, women have changed, and they all have their own reasons. As for you Mr. maybe when you asked these girls out, you WERE alil too forward. And maybe they weren't drunk enuf yet :p haha JK
Excellent answer! I definately agree with the liberation of women in recent years. And I love your point about women feeling vulnerable about giving up sex. Doesn't tat seem a bit contradictory though? they all are for having random sex but when it's all said it done it has to mean something?
Good post. - More than a year ago
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Thank you :) it was pretty long. I talk alot.. type.. whatever. yes it is contradicting, but notice how I kinda stressed on what alcohol does to ppl? I guess it leaves women with a really, like, really bad hang over, or after drinking effect. E.g. one time at a Camping party, I got drunk and tripped a lot - it was dark! The next day, I woke up with an aching body, and a bruised butt cheek :( - More than a year ago
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Haha! Damn. Sounds like you had a fun night that night. - More than a year ago
I definitely agree with all of what you're saying. Relationships should be based on getting to know each other at first. How could you have any idea if you're compatible and would have a good relationship if you just have drunken sex with someone you barely know? All of my relationships started with dating, and slowly got more serious. I'll admit I have had a one night stand, but it was with a friend and even so, I regret it completely and can safely say that I won't and couldn't ever do it again. But the people who are into the hook-up culture don't regret one night stands if they keep doing it, and especially the girls seem shocked when the guys either have sex with them and never speak to them again or the relationship they built only on sex fails. I don't think it's just a college thing, because high school kids do it too, as well as people even out of college. I know hooking up has happened for a really long time, it's not a new concept, but in my opinion something really needs to change
Yeah I think it's been happening for a long time, it's just becoming more socially acceptable. I have had one night stands, but that's all they were. One night stands. I would never ask a girl that gave me a piece of ass after a night of drinking to be my woman. I have higher standards for myself. Again, I'm not complaining, I just hate hearing girls moan and bitch about why they can't find good men when they are getting their dudes from keg night. You reap what you sow. - More than a year ago
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Exactly. I would never have a one night stand and expect a relationship out of it. Guys like you have standards, so girls like that should have standards too if they want to get a guy who will actually stick around. They're pretty much asking to get screwed over, and it might make sense if they were just really dumb but they range from not so smart to really intelligent women so it really makes no sense. - More than a year ago
I totally agree. A lot of people "hook up". Call me old fashioned but I like chivalry and courtship. Now, it is hard to find a guy like that. But sometimes I wonder if a guy would actually date a girl he met with by "hooking up" with drunkenly at a concert or something? Or are they still on the search for the chaste virgin, such as in Hamlet where he does not want to marry Ophelia seemingly because she is not a virgin? is there a double standard? Such as, I don't like you unless I can hookup with you, but I would never be with you in the long run because you did that.hmm.
I just think a lot of people don't seperate hook ups and relationships. It's almost a childish way of not having to take responsibility for the encounter. If you hook up and don't like the person the next day you can just say it's a hook up. But if you do like the person, it's your soulmate. Give me a f***ing break. - More than a year ago
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I remember I saw a phrase somewhere that went a bit like this: "In the pursuit of happiness, many settle for satisfaction". I totally agree with everything your saying, and for a guy I'd classify myself with more traditional morals which I abide to myself so thus my outlook on women who do the opposite to me I'm not exactly a fan of. But I also think, who am I to cast stones and say what the best way to live is. I'll find a women that sees how I do, and if there are none.a man:S I joke, I joke. Be cool
It might be cynicism these days.girls want the ideal relationship but are so dead set against believing they'll find it that they find it easier to lower the bar so that they don't get hurt. At least that's my theory.
Or it could just be that they just want to fool around before they have to settle down. Maybe adulthood is scary, with all the responsibilities, so they want to avoid it as long as possible.and so "serious relationships" are the last thing they want until later on.
All of society is that way. I'm way older than you and thank God I'm married because most of the single women prefer going out to bars and picking up total strangers for one night stands, which is dangerous among other things.to having any sort of serious relationship that might tie them down.and they're mostly over 30.
The next day they make fun of the guys and tell funny stories about them which are a howl to listen to, but after a while you sort of feel sorry for them because this is their only romantic life, in the case of most of the single women. The only exceptions seem to be the ones who are sleeping with their bosses, who are usually married and much older than them.not what I'd call a desirable alternative to the bars.
Yes it's weird out there. But the women seem to want it that way on the whole, except for the dwindling number of old fashioned girls who settle down with their high school sweethearts.
I see this pattern too. And from the looks of it, society appears to be evolving in a very maladaptive away. In other words, it's getting f@#k up. It's very disappointing to see how the nastiness has taken a grip on our society. I am a traditional guy myself who honestly would like to get to know the girl first be fore the bang. But it's so hard to approach women no a days thanks to those guy who ruin the reputation of approaching men. I get this feeling that most women will blow off a decent guy when he approaches because she feels like he'll ask for a hook up. If things continue this way, decent men will be discouraged to do the initiation and start a meaningful relationship.
Scary analysis, but very true. This may lead to women having to seek out the decent men themselves though. After all their hookups with college flavors of the week, they are going to look for real men that have a good life. Unfortunately for them, I don't take sloppy seconds. I'll be too busy living my good life with a classy, beautiful, and professional woman that focused on her career in school and not how many football players she could "hook up with LIKE OMG LOLZ". - More than a year ago
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Yea there's more to be said about where our society is heading. If you've seen the new batman movie, the joker may be a lunatic but his idea of the evolution of society and human nature isn't far off. It seems like we're certainly heading there, being a slave to our senses/our body instead of our mind/soul. And I totally agree with you on not accepting sloppy second. Men of qualities deserve better. - More than a year ago
Now I'm not saying you have to court a female either. I'm not out to prove my worth to a woman, but I want us both to make an effort to get to know each other and see if we should even get together. Instead of hooking up with some random chick who turns out to be a - More than a year ago
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Sorry hit the enter button too soon. I meant to say you should get to know the person first because if you just randomly hook up with someone without knowing who they really are, you could end up with some psychopath that stalks you are becomes obsessed with you and now you have to deal with something you would have had to if you got to know them first. - More than a year ago
True true. Im gonna answer this in a lil bit after this stupid meeting presentation I have. But I just wanted to say, RELAX Boss :) You're so worked up over this :) - More than a year ago
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Haha. Nah baby, I'm not worked up. I just write a lot. And did I see you have a meeting presentation? Hmm. Woman with a career? Sexy as hell! - More than a year ago
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