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I am 25 year old male, super-shy, never had a girlfriend, and obviously a virgin

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With all that wrapped into one, it makes me lack confidence - big time. I talk to very few females on a regular basis and they are just friends of my other guy friends. I don't really care to go out with my friends because they are always going to the bars and because I don't drink much, I always am the DD and have to end up babysitting. It gets quite old.

I have a lot of good going for me, as I am a college graduate and have been at my job for about fifteen months. I'm sure everyone that knows me would consider me to be a very nice person. So on paper I probably sound like a good candidate for a boyfriend. As far as looks go, I would consider myself average. I'm about 5'8" and weight 180. I just can't get over the shyness factor - not knowing what to say or even where to start a conversation. It's really a catch-22. I am extremely shy, not knowing what to say when I am out., which in turn makes me feel even worse.

Any suggestions on where to even begin? I know its about four or five different issues rolled into one big problem. Any replies would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Update: Furthermore, I've been drunk one time in my life, got sick and hated it. Many of my guy friends to just get drunk and have fun, but I fear the consequences - getting sick and ruining everyone's night or just making a complete fool of myself.    11 months ago

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Standingpretty
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Standingpretty      When: 3 months ago
Ask your friends to hook you up! It looks like they know what's going on with the ladies and can find a girl that's perfect for you! As for having nothing to talk about, ask her about her life! Girls like it when a guy is interested! Don't worry about seeming dopey, all my ex's were EXTREMELY shy until I brought them out of there shells and I actually prefer shy guys. So, know what some people consider unattractive, other people can consider most attractive.
Hope that helps!
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-StillWater-
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-StillWater-      When: 9 months ago
I have found that when I stopped looking I got what I wanted!
It's stupid, I know, but it happened to me, and so many others I know...
Be open to new possibilities, be who you are, don't pretend or try to impose as someone you're not. Anyone can pick up on that, so just be you! :)

It sounds to me like you've got extroverted friends, so perhaps they can help you with finding a girl you'll like (I assume they know you very well, so they know what type of a person you'll like)...


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moviedude714 I have to disagree on the "stop looking" part, or "waiting", since he is a guy, guys are expected to take the initiative, pursue the girl, and ask her out. Since you are a girl, you got yourself a boyfriend because he made the first move on you, not the other way around. - 6 months ago
Answerer Even though that IS true, many girls can 'pick up' the vibe of non interest, which they find very challenging, and therefore appealing to them. And soooo many girls nowadays are aggressive and assertive in their approach to romantic and sexual issues, so if she's really attracted to you (assuming she's the aggressive type) she'll 'attack' you immediately! :P - 6 months ago

maddhatter
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maddhatter      When: 10 months ago
so what bothers you more? being a virgin or being single?
hey, I applaud you for your virginity. I'm probably the only virgin at my high school! lol. although I can see why being a guy, that could be a problem with you around your friends.
go out and buy some out fit that looks good on you. not what other people say looks good on you, something that you think looks good on you. that should build up your confidence. I only say that because if you feel good about yourself, especially you're looks, other people can tell. don't go to a club or bar to meet a woman. most of them are probably looking for someone with experience, and lets face it, you don't have any. so look around work or the Y or something. I'd say go for a girl with a personality like yours. she probably lacks confidence so if you walk up to her and try to start a conversation, compliment her, or just show her a smile, she might LIKE you. hehe.
and not beiing a drunk, that is great. I can't stand a drunk. drunks act stupid...
just get out there. that's all I can say. be persistant if you have to.
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Afrodite101
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Afrodite101      When: 10 months ago
I move to Vancity from a small town and I would get intimidated by guys that I was into so I started to build my confidence by being on the bus/ skytrian seeing someone I liked and before I got off I would tell that then they were hot, or that I liked there outfit, after doing that for a bit it really built me up. Give it a try
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copper84
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copper84      When: 10 months ago
You do sound like a great guy, and I agree about the whole getting drunk thing. It's not fun or worth the consequences afterwards. I know this is what you have heard before, but if you do see a girl you are interested in, just say hi. You'll be able to tell if there is an attraction. You don't have to have some come on lines or anything. If you like to rent movies, and you see someone in your local rental store, ask about a movie. Have they seen it? What do they think? If you are really uncomfortable approaching someone you may be interested in, start off talking to the store clerk. You need to become comfortable starting a conversation. It sounds easy, but I know how hard it can be when you are really shy. I wish you the best.
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Anonymous User
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Anonymous User      When: 11 months ago
Confidence is the most attractive thing to a woman. Oddly, in my opinion, on the average a male will appear more appealing if he exudes confidence, regardless of social status. physical appearance, economic wealth, or occupation. Simply put: its all in how you feel about yourself. However, if you haven't much experience with women then you are obviously feeling rather tentative. As a recovering alcoholic I don't necessarily promote drinking, but I do suggest risk taking. It is in those risks that we observe ourselves outside our comfort zone, and get to see what we our made of. You probably will FAIL a few times. OUCH. But you won't be the first. If you don't want to drink as a buffer, than I applaud you. Alcohol is what most people use to blur those embarrassing OUCH moments, but really it just compounds and adds to the problem. If you can somehow try to let loose and be outside your comfort zone and risk failure well then you will build confidence. Its in the risk that will let you know you got what it takes. Not whether a girl likes you or not. Then when you do build the confidence up it will be just in time.for when Miss Right shows up.

I hope this all made sense. I tend to ramble. Farewell and good luck.
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TwilightXO
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TwilightXO      When: 11 months ago
Hun I can honestly say from what you just wrote any girl would be lucky to have you. Personally I think it's cute if aguy is shy so you could definitely use that to your advantage. Most girls would prefer a sincere shy guy over an cocky jerky. Just don't worry about it because you'll find someone that's perfect for you. Also bars aren't the only place to meet girls, a lot of times those are just the type of girls that wanna hook up. Just have the confidence if you see a pretty girl on the street to say hi. It might be hard at first but it will get easier. Good luck! ;)
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LeftEntails
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LeftEntails      When: 11 months ago
Gain that confidence! It seems like you have some already because you consider yourself an average guy with potential. That's good. Keep those positive thoughts in your mind whenever you speak with a girl. As long as you believe in yourself and believe that you're a good catch for someone, you will naturally come across that way to whoever you're talking to.

As for what to say, try not to think about it so much. Try saying something out loud that many people could relate to like "Man, I'm so tired right now." or "Of COURSE today isn't Friday yet. That would make my life too enjoyable." At the very least you'll probably a get a smile from whoever is around, which is always good. Or if you hear a couple girls talking about a subject you're knowledgable about, don't be afraid to jump in with something like, "Oh, are you guys talking about *insert subject here*?" It may sound like you're intruding on their conversation, but if you can bring in some useful info for what they're talking about, they'll most likely think of you as helpful and cool instead of some weird eavesdropper.

And if the conversation doesn't end up flying, don't sweat it. There are plenty of others out there to approach. Don't let your confidence suffer. You were yourself and you were open. That's all that matters.
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Anonymous User      When: 11 months ago
The first thing I would complement you is that you are good in choosing friends:) you know which are god and bad.as friend can influence you a lot so you must choose carefully. it is the right thing not to go to bars, as my freind whom is simillar like you being infuence by bad friend and got in trouble in the bar.
you can start talking to gal by saying hows ur day? and so on.try not to be nervous lol. good luck!
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lolli
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lolli      When: 11 months ago
watch the vh1 show the pick up artist
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mmmttt He should also read "The Game" by Neil Strauss...good book for guys with no confidence. - 11 months ago
Answerer I know, right! - 11 months ago

 
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Anonymous User      When: 11 months ago
You can start by saying Hello :P and be friends with the girl you like. Then, ask her out once in a while like hey, do you want to hang out sometimes. I would not mind dating someone like you lol.
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Anonymous User
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Anonymous User      When: 11 months ago
I think you need to find new friends with the same outlooks on life.
anyway. that wasn't the question.
What you really need to do is to practice. Find a girl you like. Once you have time alone, like on an elevator, ask a question. Like, "Do you know of any good restaurants? Because I am tiered of the same things I want to try something new." This will get the flow started.
Good luck!
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shygirl13
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shygirl13      When: 11 months ago
Just be yourself. I know that is super corny but it is what soo many girls look for. Being shy, it is hard to do that but it is something you have to do.

As for where to start a conversation(depending where you are), ask something like where something is, like in a store, and then if she tells you, say something funny. That is a ice breaker right there. Or if she has ever tired this brand of (insert object here) and keep going.

Also you can ask your friends, what they say to girls, to start a conversation.

I hope everything works out for you and good luck!
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a_random_guy
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a_random_guy      When: 5 months ago
Start lying about your being a virgin. Women don't want guys who are virgins. It sucks because everyone was a virgin at some point in their life. Your average woman believes, falsely in my opinion, that male virgins require extra work or something. A woman who says she wants to get laid does not want to be a "teacher" or whatever. Thus, you are stuck with women who don't want sex. In other words, in order to have sex, you have to find a woman wants to have sex. But if she wants sex, she doesn't want it with you because you're a virgin. Frustrated yet?

I do have good news for you though. Women can't actually tell the difference. The only way they know you are a virgin is if you tell them, which is why if you lie, they'll really have no idea.

And don't whatever you do, let your guard down. Women who say they "respect" male virgins are a dime a dozen. They may respect you, but they won't have sex with you.So even if she seems like the most understanding person in the world for inexperienced guys, keep lying. Especially if she has a lot of friends because if you tell her your a virgin, she'll tell all her friends, and then you're not going to get anywhere with her friends either.

Following this advice by itself won't get you laid, but without it you'll never have sex.
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Reeferman
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Reeferman      When: 9 months ago
I'm in a similar boat as you. I just look ugly and weigh 250 lbs. I've spent my high school years in a drug induced haze. But in all that time I never even had a girl FRIEND, a date, a kiss, or even a touch from a girl. . . . I'm not really helping am I? Well, I suppose I could say this is encouragement that your not alone in this situation.
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GQpatrol Pot good I smoked for ten years but I gave up 6mths ago and its great I can have a convesation I haven't had one of them for about ten years lol - 6 months ago

everett520
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everett520      When: 11 months ago
I think you could have a beer or a cocktail without getting drunk. Who knows, it might help you loosen up a little. When I meet girls out at bars, I usually start by saying hi and smiling. If she is interested in you, she will probably talk to you. Most conversations just happen automatically, you don't need a plan. And don't tell yourself that you are shy. People pick up on that. Talk to people you don't know, it is fun. Some people you meet will be cool, some people will be assholes, but there is no one you should be afraid to say hi to.

I would normally say just be yourself, but I think what you need might be to try something different. Lose the shell and open yourself up to new experiences.
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Arfoo
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Arfoo      When: 11 months ago
If you don't know what to say to someone, think of something about yourself and share it and ask them about themselves, if they share the same aspect.

And remember.even though you're 25 and a virgin, keep the mindset that this isn't about sex and it is merely about meeting people at this stage and seeing who finds you enjoyable or attractive or fun to be around.
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Anonymous User      When: 11 months ago
If you're an introvert, don't play the extrovert's game. Look for other introverted girls, and don't try to meet them in situations that make you too uncomfortable to get to know them, like noisy, crowded bars full of drunk people.

Shy girls are out there. Try online dating services, try taking some night classes, etc. If you're religious, go to Sunday school singles classes. Try to find places where girls like you would hang out. If you keep going to bars with guys who aren't like you, you're only going to meet girls who are like them, not like you.
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ethomsom2 Seems like that advice was meant for me! I am also in the same shoes as this guy, I don't drink, but can not seem to find a girl like me. But, I see your point, thanks. - 11 months ago

NMMan
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NMMan      When: 11 months ago
Check out this website, it's run by an awesome guy in our age group named Chris who went through many of the same issues and situations. His articles are informative, encouraging and free of any judgment:

link

My best advice would be to start interacting with more women - starting with small stuff like saying hello, brief small talk, etc. This way you can gradually build your confidence talking to women at your own pace. With time, effort and practice, talking to women will be much more manageable. Before you know it, asking a woman to hang out or go for coffee won't be nearly as intimidating. I was also in many of the same circumstances as yourself for years before finally making some breakthroughs in the last year or two. Best wishes brother, and good luck. 8-)
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Anonymous User      When: 11 months ago
Look at it this way, if you keep going the way you are going you will never have a girlfriend or find what you are looking for. I know that sounds harsh, but it certainly is the truth. What I think you should do is go out and meet as many people as possible, this doesn't have to be at a bar or party, it can be at the mall or even at work. Socialize at any time you can, don't pass up any invitations, and extend invitations to both guys and girls to make more friends. I know you're shy, so that's why I think you should start doing the inviting and initiate things. The only way to get over being shy is to just do it, the worst that could happen is people say know, but there are how many billions of people in the world? Just do it, and when you do you will realize it isn't that hard and that even rejection doesn't hurt that much. Best of luck.
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