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How does a guy become better at initiating small talk, conversations, and approaching girls? what can he do?

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Anonymous User (Age:18 to 24)     When: 4 months ago
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How can a guy become better at approaching girls, making the first move, and starting a conversation, flirting, making small talk, any kind of talking, because small talk is different than flirting, just because a guy is talking to a girl does not mean he is flirting with her. I am a guy who has never had a girlfriend before, still a virgin, so it is understandable on why I struggle. My problem is that whenever I approach girls and talk to them, initiate a conversation, the girls don't, or very rarely reciprocate, like the girls do not engage me in the conversation, they do not ask me questions back in return, they do not re-initiate, or make much of a contribute to the conversation, I feel like I am doing all the talking.


Update: Another problem is that whenever there are girls that do engage me in conversation, and reciprocate, they always have a boyfriend already, is it normal for girls who have a boyfriend to be more receptive to conversation than single girls are?    4 months ago

Update: Are most guys born with the confidence, social skills and conversation skills, small talk skills, in order to attract girls and get a girlfriend? Do most guys have those girls from day one? or do they have to go through trial and error?    4 months ago

Update: Overall, does it or did it take/took practice for most guys in order to become good at approaching and talking to girls? or not?    4 months ago

Update: I am not trying to sound desperate, I am just stating the facts, c'mon, you have to admit, most girls, more than half of all girls feel it is the guys job to make the very first move before a potential date/relationship, start a conversation, etc.    4 months ago

Update: I am not desperate, I just want to get better and have better luck with girls, I am not desperate for any girl, I want the right kind of girl, I want a serious committed relationship.    4 months ago

Update: Like I want to increase my level of confidence, I want to improve my game, I know that rejection is normal, no one is rejection proof, but I don't want to be rejected more so than I succeed, or I just don't want to get rejected as much as I used to.    4 months ago

Update: I know it is tradition and it has been that way for a long time, like it is just the way it is, that it is the guy's initiative to get himself a girlfriend or date, the guy asks the girl out and makes the moves on her, how can I get better at that?    4 months ago

Update: Shyness or lack of confidence are not the only issues that hurt men from approaching and talking to women, the man could just simply not know how!    2 months ago

Update: Should I read self-help books? how can I get better at talking to women and approaching them?    2 months ago

Update: Is it something that takes practice? or do you have to be born with it?    2 months ago

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leigh24
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leigh24      When: 3 months ago
i have an idea. just add me and ill help you with this.
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Question Asker I sent you a friend request now. - 3 months ago

Terpsichore
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Terpsichore      When: 3 months ago
Yes, definitely be the one to make the first move. Every single girl I know would prefer the guy to make the first move over the girl, so you're right on that level.
The first key is, of course, confidence. This is what girls look for first in a guy. What you need to do is fake it if you don't have it! Keep your head high and don't slouch. Don't mumble and don't twitch. You'll already be half way there.
The second key is that you have to approach. You can't be undecided and you can't think too much about it. I always find that my own best flirting comes out when I speak to a guy spontaneously. There's no reason why it shouldn't work on a girl too! Just catch her eye and focus on her when you walk over to her. She'll notice because she'll focus in on the little details. So even if you make your move spontaneously, you have to do it with confidence, poise, and deliberation.
The third key in conversation. So yes, ask her the normal what are you doing here, etc... If she's interested, then she'll try and prolong the conversation and make her answer interesting. You might have to do a bit of talking in the beginning, just to get her warmed up to you though. You can subtly hint that you think she's attractive by saying you came to talk to her because you saw her across the room, etc. She'll like that a lot, but don't lay it on too thick, otherwise she'll think you're just in it for the one night stand. Comment on what ever she's drinking, who she's with, etc, but make sure she knows that she's the only one you're interested in!
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Question Asker Why do you think almost all the time it is up to the guy to make the first move and initiate conversation? Why do most girls feel it is the guys job? why does the guy have to initiate everything in the beginning? - 3 months ago
Answerer Haha, it's not that we think that it always, must, has to be the guy that initiates... it's just easier. Girls are usually much more insecure about going up to a guy they don't know. Also, by initiating, you're showing right off the bat that you have confidence =) - 3 months ago
Question Asker That is why I hate being a male sometimes. - 3 months ago

Serenading_by_night
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Serenading_by_night      When: 4 months ago
Small talk is something that take talent. I for one, hate small talk and try to avoid it at all cost. It's something that needs to be practiced. Seeing as it's a social event you might want to start practicing with friends, relatives or even by yourself. Then, span outward, talking to friends that are girls and eventually potential girlfriends. Talk about class work, work, Ask questions. DO NOT TALK ONLY ABOUT YOURSELF! Girls are not attracted by this. It makes you seem self righteous and conceited. granted I know guys get nervous and all they can think to talk about it themselves, you don't fall into that bad habit. It's trouble. Ask things like, "How's it going?" "Did you see that thing on the news?" " Are you taking English right now?" "I want to see that new movie. HOw about you?" Hope this helps.
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Question Asker Why does the guy always have to be the one to make the first move? - 3 months ago
Answerer Why do you think girls should be the ones to make the first move? - 3 months ago
Question Asker Because I can't tell when a girl is interested in me. - 3 months ago
Answerer Then maybe you should take some initiative and find out. - 3 months ago
Question Asker Well I do, but I struggle to interpret their body language, whenever I approach a girl, I can't tell if they are just being friendly, or they actually like me. - 3 months ago

Reeses-pieces777
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Reeses-pieces777      When: 4 months ago
have more friends who are girls and try to strike up a conversation with them like what they're interested in or daily news events or something. try making friends.
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elvarain      When: 4 months ago
women are cross between cats and horses
cats because the more you ignore them the more they come around
horses because they move in herds and if you accidentally mess with the wrong one they will trample you
on a side note find the chick on the edge she's most likely to talk to you. If you see one you like at a party wait until she gets a drink and disengages herself form the herd then help her get a drink, horses once isolated are easier to talk to. Women also like complements that into something. aka you look really tan were you at the beach? if "no" then ask if she likes to go to the beach or rather the mountains? and so on
get her talking and she'll be fine
after awhile the group will show up,
STAND YOUR GROUND!
Introduce yourself to the girls and be host to all of them, in other words be a gentleman and when appropriate leave

the girls will love you! and the one you approached will definitely think about this meeting

or
How do you date well?
Practice!Practice!PRACTICE!
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Question Asker In your opinion, why does the guy almost all the time have make the first move before a potential date/relationship? - 4 months ago
Answerer Umm because every time I have mad a move they have run away. :( And I was being nice. I asked my current boyfriend and he says he likes the chase. And he still does . . . . around the bedroom :) - 4 months ago
Question Asker Well then those type of guys who run away are not the right ones then. - 4 months ago
Answerer Ok thanks for advice . . . I am getting engaged though ;) By a guy who chased me - 4 months ago
Question Asker I wish I was a woman sometimes. - 3 months ago
Answerer Lol don't wish that! not during a certain time:P - 3 months ago
Question Asker Even my friend who is a guy agrees women have it easier, he says: Love just comes to them, us Men have to fight tooth and nail for it. - 3 months ago
Answerer Hahaha, your suddenly a girl now? no girls have the same issue - 3 months ago

achick
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achick      When: 4 months ago
Umm well every one needs trial and error and I am not dating any one and I don’t have a problem talking at all to guys if there talking in a nice way and not trying to hook up. If you ask really personal questions at first it kind of turns us off and I hat it win they ask the same question over and over. If you have a friend that’s a girl talk to her and transfer those same principals and talk to the hoot girl next doer and try new things. GOOD LUCK!
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Question Asker I just wish girls would make themselves be more approachable. - 4 months ago
Answerer I bet. Did I help at all? And I am not a mom or any thing that's just how I would want to have my dad handle this and I would do this if my kids did that. - 4 months ago
Answerer Ok yea I know what you mean lol you can talk to me on hear if you want and I am pretty opine so you can be my friend. - 4 months ago
Question Asker I wish there were more girls like you. - 4 months ago
Answerer Awww well I have bin told that a lot lately thank you and I like talking to you to your cool - 4 months ago

 
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Anonymous User      When: 4 months ago
i would suggest you just be yourself,and say whatever you think is appropriate..
practicing lines,and flirting will only take you till the first/second date-after that-you would have to talk.
i met a nice guy who is your age,who didn't flirt at all,but talked to me,and I liked him..be a simple,nice guy that you are and you will definitely find a girl who likes you :)
still-you could learn a few flirting techniques..all I am saying is that its not always necessary :)
best of luck
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Question Asker So should I keep talking to girls and approaching them? - 4 months ago
Answerer Yes,absolutely :)
best of luck - 4 months ago
Question Asker Also how can I avoid being creepy or clingy? - 4 months ago
Answerer Well,you could make her a little interested in you.
dont start conventional..
dont complement her on the start...go upto her,look into her eyes and say hi and introduce yourself.and say,i think you have a very interesting face..take it from there..make her feel special,but don't come on too strongly,for example,talk to her,but guage from her answer where to take the conversation next.make her comfortable,crack a few nice jokes,
this way,you would be subtly flirting :) - 4 months ago
Question Asker Also my guy friends are not good with girls either, so I don't really have anyone to help me. - 4 months ago
Question Asker I don't have a lot of friends of either gender. - 4 months ago

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prismatic      When: 4 months ago
ok I didn't read the whole thing, but depending on the situation, just go up to a girl and make a joke about the weather or whatever is happening.. .or just comment on her outfit or something. I am a pretty awkward person and kind of get uncomfortable when guys compliment me because then I don't know what to do... so.. I don't know... hahah I hope you found this semi-helpful
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sunnygloomy
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sunnygloomy      When: 4 months ago
ok first just walk up to her and complement her it doesn't mean your flirting ust have something to talk about
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Question Asker Is it okay to say "Hi my name is(mention my name), I know we don't know eachother, but I just had to tell you that you are very pretty", is that okay? - 4 months ago
Answerer I mean just - 4 months ago
Answerer Yea that's perfect I don't know why you need help - 4 months ago
Answerer And most girls would respond to "your pretty" cause its a complement and its ok to not have a girlfriend yet I haven't had a boyfriend yet and its ok to be a virgin it actully better then not being one - 4 months ago
Question Asker You haven't had a boyfriend yet either? well it's tough for me because I am 21. - 4 months ago
arsenal25 If a guy said that to me and came up I would just say um thank you. I don't know I wouldn't initiate any conversation back unless you say something back to me na not even then. but that's just the way I am. I find it easier if I know the person or if we go to the same school and you start a conversation about school or soemthing like that, instd of saying how pretty I am. and not having a girlfriend at ur age um don't even worry about it!! like the guys said its trial and error keep talking to girls more - 4 months ago
Question Asker I just wish women would make it easier. - 4 months ago
 

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Grayman716
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Grayman716      When: 2 months ago
I was very very bad at talking to women at one time. LOL but not anymore, when talking to women you need to stand out from the rest of the guys. This has became very easy for me now because most men are not very creative. Most men with try to flatter a woman by commenting them on there hair eye's smile and other tacky things that they have all herd before. This screams boring! You want to become different and interesting in the eye's of the woman that you are pursuing. There are many different ways of creating interest in you whit what you say and how you say it. For example, when I am at a bar of social gathering I give the woman that I am interested in some attention but I do not give her my full attention. I still include her friends guys and girls and girls who she dose not even know in a light upbeat conversation. When I do decide to complement the woman I am interested in I will give her the first compliment, on something that she is not use to hearing. Like I like you shoes that is a very classy look or your nails must have taken forever to do. I have even commented on a woman's belt think about it how many guys have said to a woman that is a great looking belt. You can only pull this off if you are considered to have a unique style yourself, if you dress in a sloppy manor most likely you will attract woman who dress in a sloppy manor. Go back to the light upbeat conversation and let some time pass then complement a different woman on something else in front of the woman that you are interested in. What this dose is create competition! Competition is going to be you best friend in getting the woman that you want. Women do not like to think they are getting beat out by another unless that girl you are going for has low self esteem. The two will then go to greater lengths to get your attention and will make your goal much easier because they will be doing all the work from this point. After sometime passes then out of the blue look at the girl who you like smile and take your cell phone out and say " I want to get to know you, what is your number". Look directly at your phone as if you are ready for here to give the number and do not look back up until she gives it to you. After this then say I enjoyed your company tonight but I need to go and meet up with my friends or what ever. Take off from where ever you are and leave her in mystery. Text her the next day saying hi and maybe call the fallowing day after that. Trust me this will work !

If you have any other questions about meeting women one on one or different types of girls I can help you out. I am 29 years old and have been dating since I was 14 I have some experience on this topic.

I hope this helped you out some. Like I said I use to be in your position and it sucked!
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appleshampoo      When: 4 months ago
The best way to talk to a woman is listen to what they are saying. They will usually talk about crap that doesn't relate to the conversation at all and you will think "why the hell is she telling me this" but it's how they make conversation. Talk to them about themselves and the convo will flow.

You current conversations probably go like this...

You: hey did you have a good day?
Girl: Yeah it wasn't bad. I went to the beach, but it wasn't as good as last summer.
You: Cool. I went to the cinema it was cool.
Girl: Ok... great...

You missed her hooks and tried to force the convo. Try this.

You: hey did you have a good day?
Girl: yeah it wasn't bad. I went to the beach, but it wasn't as good as last summer.
You: How come? What happened last summer? (using her hook to talk about what she wants)
Girl: *Cool story about what happened last summer*
Guy: Seriously? I did that last summer! Hey maybe it was the same beach! (relating to the chick)
Girl: Yeah maybe it was :O
Guy: Nah, I'd remember a nerd like you! :)

See how that flows better? Girls love to talk about themselves. If you are approaching a girl for the first time, its because you want to get to know her, not force her to know about you. Once you engage convo with a girl and relate to what she wants to talk about (she will ALWAYS guide you in the right direction) you find out stuff about her, you can relate to her about it, the conversation flows naturally.

You keep on about small talk in your question, there is no need for small talk. Small talk is something that guys with no conversation skills make. You know? The ones who don't get any? Leave small talk for them.
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Question Asker It's like us guys need to know how to talk to girls, but girls don't need to know how to talk to guys. - 3 months ago

Gorce
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Gorce      When: 4 months ago
Practice on all the women..married...older..younger...unattractive...very attractive...white black blue green purple women ...whatever. sooner or later your going to program your mind to thinking its ok to talk to females. At least you'll get that block out of your way.


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Question Asker Do you think it takes practice for most guys in order to become good at socializing with women? - 4 months ago
Answerer Yes, it does. Women think differently than we do in a lot of ways AND are very..very perceptive. All the practice you are doing is simply to makle you more confident and at ease...the very feelings you want them to pick up on. - 4 months ago

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BloodMerchant      When: 4 months ago
It's more of a trial-and-error process, it's an never ending way to learn, because there are so many girls out there. I normally talk to girls that I'm not interested in just fine, but when it comes to a girl that I like, then I just start to get nervous. It's kinda like practice in order to be good to talking girls, but there is no systematic way to learn how to speak to girls, because like I said, each girl is unique and different.

Just talk to them, compliment them, just talk about something neutral, not personal (classes, teachers, weather, etc.)
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Question Asker Yeah, also how can I avoid being clingy or looking desperate? - 4 months ago
Answerer I don't know, just talk about anything, and don't talk to them too much. Just don't talk about too personal stuff, either. (relationships, family, etc, unless if you know them that well.) If you talk about something that isn't too personal, then you avoid being clingy/looking desperate. I'm pretty sure that you're not chatting girls up because you like them. It's just trial-and-error, you'll perfect it as you talk to more girls. Just talk to them as if you were talking to a male friend of yours. - 4 months ago

NMMan
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NMMan      When: 4 months ago
It can be a definite trial-and-error process - my skills at small talk were honed over much time and much practice. I didn't have my first date until I was 20 years old, so I had some catching up to do in that regard when that happened. Basically, I just made more of an effort to talk to girls, whether it was romantic flirting or strictly platonic. At the beginning it was a little tough, but over time I got more practice, and it got easier to the point where the conversation process felt smooth and effortless. So yes, some guys are just born with the "gift of gab", but it is a skill that can be learned over time also. Good luck!
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Question Asker So for you, it took practice to get better? - 4 months ago
Answerer It definitely did - starting when I was about 20, and now I'm 25. I've learned a lot in that time, and I'm still learning even today. At least now I'm much more comfortable with the whole process than I was years ago. - 4 months ago
Question Asker Yeah definetley, eventhough it may seem easier for women and that is unfair, but my guy friend told me this and it was funny, he said "who said anything about being fair? no such thing my friend, we don't have to endure childbirth?" - 4 months ago
 
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