Then you should flirt with him and make it obvious that you are interested in him. so he can ask you out. because if you are he will eventually realize and ask you out! :) - 6 days ago
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I am a guy I was just saying he as in a more general term. Girls won't start flirting though. I am stuck being single forever. - 6 days ago
I think that girls or guys can ask someone out. I think that equal rights means what it means - that it's nobody's JOB to do the asking out. I've asked out my last three boyfriends because they didn't have the guts to do it themselves.
To me, feminism means have equal rights. Unfortunately, dating does not slot in so easily because its about behaviour rather than fundamental rights. Women now have the right to ask a guy out but equally she has the right not to do so. It is all about personal liberty and freedom of choice. There's no one definitive answer because people think differently about dating rules.
I HEAR some men say they don't want to do all the asking out but in my personal experience, when I have made the move it didn't work out long-term. So I'm trusting my gut instinct on this. Men and women should be equal but they are different beings emotionally. They respond differently.They have different attitudes. Guys are not going to suddenly adapt overtly female attitudes and vice versa.
Ok but I am scared of asking girls out - A month ago
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Are you shy? i need to help you out lol theres not much to it tho. - A month ago
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I am shy. Yeah. - A month ago
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Ohh, its simple just do it. and then you will get better at it cause some girls don't like asking guys out and beleive that's what guys do which is so true. - A month ago
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It is not that easy. I get so scared I can't do it there is no way I can be the one who makes the move. I need a girl to make the move. It won't happen otherwise. - A month ago
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Hmm, I wonder if a lot of guys are like this? - A month ago
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Some are some aren't I don't know I just need help/. - A month ago
Guys job, and let me assure you the girl might be in love with you but the majority of us think it's just not made for us to answer. I, would never ask a boy out I would hint him but it's his job. Strongly beleive this.
I think that, taken clinically and logically, either gender is perfectly capable of asking someone out if he/she is interested. But the fact is, society is full of cues, unspoken rules, and mind-games. You cannot change it just by being angry at the reality of it. Guys and girls have different needs and expectations in relationships, and that includes the start of a relationship. Generally the compromise can be found by a girl giving signs of interest and having the guy respond by asking her out. That's very general, but work with me here. Guys are the more physical, active gender by definition, by nature. Girls are the nurturers, the support. Yes there are exceptions and blah blah. You can't get anywhere by whining about exceptions. But anyway, that's why society unthinkingly expects guys to be the proactive ones, to go after their desires. And that's why girls accept their roles as the support, taking what happens to come to them. It's not a matter of conscious decisions. Basically, society has always told us that men should be the active ones, the decision-makers. And there are always rebels who disagree or who simply aren't wired to think the same way as everyone else, and that's where you get the assertive girls or the shy guys. Many guys have voted that they would prefer equality, but in reality they'll still probably end up having to make the first move most of the time, in spite of their wishes, because otherwise they'll be cast out and won't have a chance to get much of anything. It sucks, sure, and it's not fair, but that doesn't mean it never works in a guy's favor. I heard one argument saying that it's actually a pretty good deal for guys. I mean, every girl that they go after, they do it because they're interested in her. So any one of those girls that actually does say yes, they're going to be happy about it. However, since girls are the ones getting asked, it often happens that they're not interested at all in the guy, which is a bad deal for them. That's just something to think about. Back to my rant. So I believe SOCIETY has basically decided that it's the guy's job and I think it makes sense instinctively, as I explained. And I don't think it's truly unfair, because girls and guys bring different things to a relationship; would it really make sense to be with someone who gives all the same things you do in the exact same ways? The way I personally look at my relationships is that he is putting himself out there to let me know he's interested, as well as giving me the choice of accepting his affection. And in accepting, I put my love and loyalty in him; I promise to him that I return his feelings. I don't think either role is necessarily better or worse, harder or easier. They are just different. I didn't expect to say that much, but there's my view.
cooking is not the same thing as asking someone else out! at all. I want a guy to ask me out because its simply more attractive because: 1. he actually had the balls to ask me out instead of being too afraid of rejection 2. he's confident in himself because he just asked me out 3. he is proactive, knows what he wants and when he wants someone he gets her instead of waiting for her to make a move
I wouldn't ask a guy out because I want to treated like a lady! I am going on my own experience-any time I seduced the guy it didn't work because GUYS LIKE THE CHASE. why don't u? If I ask a guy out, I will be considered too needy/clingy. its a fact. that's why I dont! Plus I will be handing it to him on a plate so he will lose interest very quickly. I want the guy to put the effort in. What's wrong with that?! I'm not sexist! God! I'm a very independent woman but in dating, the old rules still apply to a certain extent. I'm not saying its fair/pc but that's it and you have to work with the system you have. For example, if a girl has a one night stand, she's a slut but if a guy does he's a hero. FACT. Not fair but life is not fair. I'm just telling you the truth. There are total double standards in dating.
Guys WANT to do the running-you're shy but you need to work on that. girls ALWAYS pick the outgoing guy over the shy one. The outgoing one is less work and more fun. period.
no its nothing to do with feminism. guys like the chase. ask any guy you like. he will ask the girl out if he likes her end of. its not pc to say so but that's the way it is. I'm not afraid of rejection but I would, for example, never ask a man to marry me s I would want him to want to marry me not just cos I asked him. same with going out wit someone. I'm very independent so I don't want to demean myself by asking, its not empowering its an option but one id rather not use it because it doesn't work in real life.
i totally agree with love guru on this! if you ask a guy out it does not lead to a long term thing 9 times out of 10.
honestly some people in here need to read the book "he's just not that into you".
Its ALWAYS the guys job. and yes I feel very strongly about it too!
Thats kind of sexist though how would you feel if I said cooking dinner was always the women's job. Exactly that is not right... why should a certain role be for a certain gender. - A month ago
"guys like the chase. ask any guy you like." umm, no, we really don't.
"I'm very independent so I don't want to demean myself by asking" so is the guy? and that's exactly the reason most of them don't do it, because they also feel it's demeaning.. as if the girl is more valuable.. and they are less valuable.. coupled with the girl playing hard-to-get and disinterested so she can be emotionally safe and protect herself against fear of rejection.. it can seem almost like begging.. - A month ago
What I see a lot of in the comments from the girls, is,
"we like to recieve attention and give it back only when we feel is necessary - but, men should always keep putting themselves on the line because rejection shouldn't be that bad for them... they're guys!"
"it is going against the NORM to make a move, because... well, I don't know what will happen if I do! I risk getting an opinion from someone I may not like!"
either should. how hard is it to ask if someone wants to grab a bite to eat? or catch a movie? i think all the girls that chose option A or B are either shy or very insecure... there's a good chance they're going to be 45 years old sitting at home with all their cats waiting for a guy to call them and ask them out. you can't just sit back and wait for life to happen, you have to go out and make it happen, or else you aren't truly living =)
You are saying if you are shy, you are doomed! Ahahahahaa. But anyway, it's a shame girls have to do it, I think guys look much better on it! - A month ago
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I agree that guys look better doing it (its the old fashioned side of me) but that is no reason why a girl should just sit around and wait if the guy isn't. - A month ago
I strongly believe the Guy should: Girls (35) Guys (8) ! I moderately believe they Guy should: Girls (42) Guys (7) ! We realy don't understand each others, do we? Guys, come on, be more pushy, girls like it! can't you see the numbers there! aaaaa.
Anybody else here notice that mostly it's girls thinking that guys need to ask a guy out? I also notice that rather than argue the point to any extent or come up with any witty rebuttle, most girls on here just vote people down just simply because they disagree. I think it's funny on how there was a giant feminist movement and so many people are pushing for everything to be equal but the minute it comes to something like say asking somebody out, suddenly women flee back to an archaic moral value. Another girl told me that she feels guys should ask because of the stories she's grown up with. Where I think that just because "that's the way we always did it before" is not always the best reason to keep doing it that way.
Now lets be honest here. The real reason is because you think you have to wait for the guy is because you're affraid of rejection. I'm pretty sure that's the main reason. I don't see why these guys have to be the only ones putting themselves on the line and risk heartbreak. I've asked them out before. It's not hard, and it's not so bad, and it's not like too many guys are going to say no. besides which most guys that aproched me turned out to be major players, but that's beside the point.
I bet you girls are gonna gimme a 1 down or more, but I dare you to challenge me on this. I dare you to give me a reason why you disagree with me. c'mon show me you have a brain in your head.
I'll challenge you on this one. While I have asked out a handful of guys, the only ones that led to lasting relationships (or even led to multiple dates) were when the guys asked ME out. Think about it, if men do the asking, chances are we've already sent them some SERIOUS signals that we're interested. Lots of direct eye contact, smiling and laughing at his jokes (even if they weren't especially funny) and physical contact on the shoulder. And I'm sorry, but after years of rejecting... - A month ago
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Yes and yet I've not had this problem. 5 years of rejection? Ever think it's just you? If I make a move on a guy things usually go on to be pretty good. They can't all be good clearly, but you're gonna get a risk of a bad relationship no matter how it starts. - A month ago
I don't know. I'm ok with a girl asking me out, but I have to side with Anonymous here. Most of the girls that asked ME to be their boyfriends either ended up cheating on me or turned out to have boyfriends already. So while I do like being asked out, I also tend to notice that there is a completely different problem. Sorry guru, but I don't think you're living up to your self appointed title here. Especially if you had 5 whole years of being rejected. It HAS to be you. - A month ago
- we've always had slaves, call me old-fashioned, but that's how I think things should be.
- women have always stayed home, I'm a little old-fashioned & traditional.
- but we've always had the guy do the work while we sat back and enjoyed the free ride, why on earth would anyone want to change a good thing? - A month ago
Humans are allergic to change. They love to say, "We've always done it this way." I try to fight that. That's why I have a clock on my wall that runs counter-clockwise. The most dangerous phrase in the language is, "We've always done it this way."
So how bout that, huh? A woman said that. I think that it's cool how she challenges people to think differently. - 25 days ago
funny how more girls think the guy should and vise versa for guys. i say the guy should. i can be old fashioned when it comes to things like asking out someone.
Actually if you look at the poll the guys are mostly saying either should. We don't want either person to take charge. We want it to be equal footing from the start. - A month ago
True it should be Equal and that's why I picked C.. - A month ago
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Actually. if you looked at when I posted my comment, it will tell you I did so [ two ] days before yours.
i think either the guy or girl can ask each other out for dates and stuff but when you ask someone to be official then a guy should. but what you say is bullsh*t because there are too many times when me or my girlfriends try to be "equal" only to find the guy had lost interests and/or played games. - A month ago
Blufrenzy93 Ur trying to tell that girls don't play games and if ur saying that they don't then that is bullsh*t!!!I personally know girls who play around with guys all the time,so I will say again un like you I Feel everything should be EQUAL!!! - A month ago
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I didn't say girls don't play games. im saying there were too many times where it was the other way around. a girl can step up to the plate but even before a swing, she's already struck out--majority of the time. its good that you feel things should be equal but most often they're not :/ - A month ago
i think the guy shoul ask because its pritty weird if the girl asks. like if she asked the guy out it would look as in if she was the man in a realation sh*t but that's the way I see it.
Just because someone makes the first movie doesn't make them the "man" or imply theyll be the one taking charge throughout the entire relationship. One has nothing to do with the other. - A month ago
After high school the question "Will you go out with me," becomes obsolete. I did ask my current boyfriend if he only wanted to sleep with me or if he still wanted to play the field after we were dating for a few months. That kind of counts I guess. It would have been fine if he asked me first too. So either one can ask. I also believe the woman and the man have the same right to ask each other out on a date as the other.
Same here. my fiance' first approached me, and I got nervous and maybe came off as a little disinterested. so I was the one who actually asked him out. - A month ago
I say the guys- I feel like after all, we have to get dressed up, we have to take care of how we look the most JUST to get a guy to approach us, so its definately up to the guy! xxxx
Funny, we've always heard girls look good for other girls. Not for guys.
You have to ask yourself something. Men today want to see a woman who is willing to work for it like them. If you sit there and look pretty, what image are you presenting? That you will make the man work for you while you just enjoy it? No. We don't want that. We want to see that you're willing to bust your butts just like we have to. Looking pretty in a corner and hoping a guy walks up to you isn't that. - A month ago
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Personally, I couldn't care less what other girls think of me....The point I was making is that just think its a bit sucky that after all the sh*t girls go through to look good etc. i.e like I did- losing a TON of weight, for example which was not easy at all, and the money I've spent on makeup and my hair etc. in the past month alone for instance we're THEN also expected to make the first move now. Great. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - A month ago
All that stuff is stuff you're doing for yourself and would probably have done regardless of guys. don't try to say that because you lost weight, which is something you should have done anyway, guys have a responsibility to be the one to approach you. you're just making excuses to explain why you don't want to have to actually work for what you want. - A month ago
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I didn't say because I lost weight that guys are duty bound to approach me, I just think women have to put in a lot of time and effort into improving thmemselves and trying to be 'perfect' I mean, have you ever read a woman's magazine- its all about tips to look better, to get a man etc., and then on top of that we're the ones that have to put ourselves out there emotionally too and risk getting rejected, like it or not, that isn't fair. Are we gonna have to start paying for YOU on dates too? - A month ago
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P.S I'm guessing you've been rejected a lot by girls, huh?! Otherwise, chill, what's with the attitude? - A month ago
That just shows a selfish & self-centered mentality.. and that will be weeded-out naturally in the dating market by her ending up with desperate losers or players, and repelling worthwile guys who have dignity and respect for themselves and would never accept or tolerate that kind of one-sided mentality. - A month ago
I'm really good-looking, work out 6 times a week @ the gym for 45mins, do abs every day for 15mins, cardio 3 days a week for 2 hours, get really nice clothes, dress well, take care of myself, AND I'm educated from brand-name schools, in two professional careers (accounting/law), financially intelligent, secure & stable, and have a huge high-value social network.
If anyone would feel a sense of entitlement, it should be the guy; but he doesn't. So I'd really like to know why you do? - A month ago
I have to agree with WeaponZero; you're just making excuses. In most cases, a guy has more to offer a girl than a girl has to offer a guy. And girls want more from guys than guys want from girls. THAT'S why there's all this focus on how girls can "get a guy". It's a big challenge to get something of more value in exchange for something of less value. That's where negotiations come in. You can either "compensate" for lack of value, or "bargain" in an attempt to "increase value" of what you have. - A month ago
Compensating would be adding things to your offer so you can bring some balance to the exchange. Things like initiating an interaction, risking rejection, emotionally investing, and financially investing by paying for dates to maintain the interaction. So when guys are "expected" (or rather; it's "demanded") they do this; it carries with it the message of "you're worth less than me, and you have to compensate for it"; and the guy thinks? WTF? Since when? - A month ago
Bargaining is an attempt to make the other person believe they have little to offer you (attempting to convince them they have lower value), while also believing you have a lot to offer them (attempting to convince them you have higher value). Hence why WeaponZero, along with every other guy is calling you out on trying to make excuses and push your case with no real underlying basis for doing so. Asking out isn't a JOB, it's a "GESTURE", done out of consideration and generosity, not obligation. - A month ago
Awww poor you... having to lose weight. Us guys are still attractive when we are fat... am I right? Honestly think about how stupid you sound when saying that men need to ask you out because you went and lost weight... as if guys don't have to try and look good for girls too. - A month ago
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Traditionaly it seems best and they kinda should be incharge
wow I just looked at the poll results and realized how selfish we are for making up all sorts of excuses and reasons to basically give the responsibility over to guys to do the asking out.
there's not a single girl (or guy) who voted for D or E; not even me lol
Well truthfully though in the past the responsibility has rested with the guy. I mean I have never asked a girl I liked out but I don't really expect a girl to ask me. I would like it and I would need it but I don't expect it. - A month ago
But we do SO much work oursleves- I mean, you probably spend money, time effort on nice clothes and your hair/makeup etc. to be more attractive (not just for guys, but at least PARTLY) and then on top of that you ALSO have to make the first move?! No way, that sucks! That's women having to do waaaay to much work and guys what? Just have to turn up?!- No way- after I've dressed up and got myself looking good I expect a guy to be the one to make a move! - A month ago
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Yeah but.. let's be honest, we wouldn't want a role-reversal because we know it's not balanced or fair.. looking good is transferable.. risking rejection, emotionally and financially investing in someONE isn't.. so a girl can spend "X" amount of time to look good for many guys.. whereas a guy spends "X" amount of time to risk rejection, emotionally and financially invest himself for one girl. we basically want the cake and to be able to eat it too by insisting that things be unfair and "traditional" - A month ago
I kinda like it how Anonymous referred to it as fleeing back to an archaic moral value, out of fear of rejection. It kinda made me laugh a little bit. - A month ago
Shortie, women don't earn the easy way out in initiating a relationship any more than men do. The main point here is, if you are interested, stop waiting and complaining if it doesn't come to you. We put in our fair share of work on both sides, I still have yet to understand why sparking the question is considered more of an effort than waking up in the morning and going to work. Which do you like more, first dates or monday's at work? - A month ago
There's a valid argument for that. Check out the last paragraph in my answer. - A month ago
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Yes that is a another point, another point as well some guy's are saying for the argument that they think girls expect it to come from the men cos that's the way it's always bean this is not true there was time it was the girls dad you had to ask and and impress oohhh scary now you get to go straight to the girl ha ha I don't know were that come from then I'm in a baffling mood today lol - A month ago
I wish girls would more. Maybe I'm just butt ugly but after getting 100% rejection hundreds of times in my life already, its really taken a toll on my self esteem and I refuse to even bother anymore, if the girl thinks I'm worth it she will let me know, but obviously that isn't happening so I will probly die alone.
and to all the "it takes so much effort to get so dressed up and put makeup on so the guy should ask" ...bullcrap, like guys don't have to workout like crazy 5 days a week to be ripped for you, and bust their butts to get a good paying job for you to mooch off, all you do is sit and wait for the fattest wallet to approach you.
I think in the future women will make practically all the advances on men. They are just more in charge of the situation. They have more to gain, and they assume more risks. They should have total leadership over sexuality.
Any girl who disagrees: fine! We'll never do it. You'll never have me. :)
Well there is the reasonable answer which is either party should be able to ask the other out and it shouldn't be one or the other. Unfortunately, on a social level it seems to have fallen upon guys to do it because it shows, social status, that you have stuff going on, and that you are confident. Those qualities most women find attractive. So likely if she asks him out there is a new dynamic In my view I like a girl with interesting ideas and stuff she wants to do.
What I found most interesting about this question is that absolutely no girls felt it is the females role to ask the male out and not the males yet some guys are relying more on the women. Notice how the higher percentage of women feel it's the man's role but a higher percentage of men feel it is either.
I personally chose "B" because though I am like the majority of the guys who would like to think we should all be voting "C" I have also had the pleasure of spending a lot of time around females in which to acknowledge that in which this poll has also shown.
At the end of the day it is merely down to how an individual feels. If they want it enough then they should take it. If they can't then they just have to admit defeat. What gender you are shouldn't stop you.
The problem is so many of the good guys are just too shy to ask the girls and the girls are too busy worrying about stealing the guys role. I don't mean to be sexist but we gave you more than the right to work and vote. The whole point of equality is we all have as much right to a given provision as the previous man.
In other words, we are all equal so why should the man have to make the move. We can all make moves... Though until this is recognised, I'm going to make the moves myself because I know that otherwise I may end up letting too many opportunities slip through my fingers...
I found out a girl I knew in high school liked me. Our mutual friends kept telling me I should ask her out. I was a bit shy and didn't feel comfortable asking her out since I really didn't know her that well and hadn't necessarily taken interest in her before. Long story short, one of her friends pushed her into asking me out. We hit it off great and dated through most of high school and college. I asked her to marry me and we have now been married for 9+ years.
Morals of the story? Girls: Don't be afraid to make a move on a guy you like. Guys: Be willing to step it up and ask a girl out if she likes you ;)
That's a cool, good story but that doesn't mean that every time a girl asks a guy she likes out they'll live happily ever after...usually she'll either be embarrassed of humiliation of the guy says no [and people may think she's desperate] or the guy says yes but doesn't really pursue or lead at all because he didn't have to to begin with. - A month ago
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No doubt every situation is different. Just worked out well for us in this case. I don't think rejection is any easier for guys. - A month ago
I know girls who I'm very close to and they wished ,so many times for this guy to come up to to them or this guy and that guy,etc,but most of the time it doesn't work out that way for them,so they get guys who they don't even like coming up to them most of the time.
The first 3 girlfriends I had came up to me.I only had one girlfriend I went up to her(She ended up being the best one).
I picked Both,because of my experiences with a some girls coming up to me,because I was very,very,very shy back then and being in high school at the time where rumors become truth in one day is scary.
Guys going up to girls and Girls going up to guys,it does not matter,because If you like something,go get it.
I think ether sex should ask. If you find yourself attracted to someone, why not?
However if we face realty for a moment, I think there is general consensus that the question is to be asked by the guy. I don’t think it’s the proper mind set but who’s to argue with hundreds of years of social sex role discrepancy?
Now for the statement that gets me some thumb downs; Contrary to the movement of women’s rights in the 1960’s, a women’s idealisms have not changed in the least.
The 'general consensus'? just look at those numbers, there is no 'general consensus ' whatsoever! - A month ago
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2 percent think its the girls job to ask a guy out. 53 percent think its the guys job to ask a girl out.
Those are the figures that speak to me.
The 46 percent that believe the role should be shared (including myself), I discard. I look as this and think of the Swiss; were neutral. I feel it should be a shared responsibility but that doesn't make it a reality.
Notice how most of the people who said the guy should are girls. And that almost every guy said either. Why would it not be either, please girls, it's the 21st century, it's either.
Both genders should, c'mon it's the 21'st Century, eventhough waiting for someone to ask you out and take the initiative seems better than risking rejection, it's good because it means you are going after what you want, if you just wait all the time, you could keep getting hit on by people who are not your type.
It's as simple as this: if she is interested, she should quit wasting time conveying interest and just ask him out - if he is interested, he needs to man up and ask her out. Quit waiting and pull the trigger.
We're living in a time of feminized men who have grown up without tribal leadership (Thanks Absent Father!)
Of course we guys would rather the girls ask us, but isn't that like asking her to hold our hands because we're too insecure to risk rejection?
Why should we expect women to spend the energy they do presenting themselves for display, and then ALSO expect them to drive the bus?
It's time we guys start taking responsibility for our dating lives, go out and grab the best woman we can meet by her hand, and LEAD her into that adventure we call dating.
She's wise enough to know if we're worth following so let's stop handling her with kitten gloves and let's stop asking her to make all the decisions for us.
Wow I actually agree and I'm a bit surprised [though also a bit not considering most guys' opinion] that I'm the first to agree while 4 other people [probably all guys too] disagree. - A month ago
It means that she leads the whole relationship - like even proposes, drives them [okay I admit to always driving the guys I'm had a thing with cause I was the only one with a car let alone a license], pays, etc. - A month ago
I hate it when guys are too wimpy to ask a girl out, but then they complain when their girlfriend get's easily bored and leaves (because he can't make decisions for himself, he's boring, predictable and unstable.)
Come on guys, let's be MEN. Let's invite these women into our lives to share our journey's instead of asking them to drive us around and be our moms. - A month ago
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What if the guy is too shy to ask a girl out though? - A month ago
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I completely agree with bobair, what kind of MEN let the woman ask them out and drive them around like children? Cheerangel, you ned to stop dating losers without cars. If the guy is too shy to ask a girl out, then he shouldn't deserve to date one. - A month ago
Lol I know! And I never even ended up officially "dating" any one of them cause they'd rather just hook up and let it be that way [stupid!] And maybe it's also cause they were a lot younger than me [though the last one was 19]...not to mention don't have any money. But now I've got much higher standards and rather be totally single than be involved with another loser like most of the past guys. Anyways, ya, young guys nowadays need to man up and girls shouldn't tolerate it if they don't. - A month ago
To say that the person who made the first move will be the one who "wears the pants" based just on that is just retarded. They have no bearing on each other. - A month ago
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Weaponzero, obviously you have never had a girlfriend and I'm sorry. - A month ago
I just don't think it should fall on the duty of either person just because of their gender. I have no problems approaching girls, but I'd like to see girls approaching guys too. To say that it falls on one gender specifically really is just old-fashioned thinking that I don't think belongs in a modern society where everything is supposed to be equal. - A month ago
We're not talking about gender - we're talking about who's wearing the pants. If the girl is taking action, and asking you out, then she's cementing herself in the "masculine" role, with you as the feminine. This works well for some couples,.
Typically there is one person in each relationship who's more comfortable driving the "bus" sort of speak. My experience tells me women prefer if I do the driving. And I really appreciate that. - A month ago
What I'm saying though is that just because you initiated it doesn't mean you'll be "driving the bus" throughout the entire relationship. Look at the link in my answer below. The case is of a girl who is fully aware that the guy she likes likes her, but he has no clue how she feels. If you look at it from a purely logical standpoint, then it falls on her to initiate because she is the only one aware of a mutual attraction. He fears rejection still while she is fully aware there won't be any. - A month ago
I know that someone has to be the one to initiate, but there are many different circumstances that could determine which one that should be, and it shouldnt "always" fall on one gender. There is nothing "masculine" about just happening to be the first one to do it too. I've been in relationships where I initiated, I've been in relationships where she initiated. And you know what? It made no difference on who was the "leader" throughout the relationship. - A month ago
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Weaponzero: Here's a shocker, all things are NOT equal because men and women are not the same. As far as opportunities in general we are equal but that doesn't mean behavior towards each other is equal. Example if I get into an argument with a girl and I punch her in the face is that the same as punching a guy? "Don't hit women." Isn't that old and outdated like slavery, and doesn't belong in modern society? Lol - A month ago
I think you picked a bad example there because hitting someone because you got into an argument is wrong, guy or girl, and I would never do it period. - A month ago
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Question Asker
But the thing is too some guys are just shy, and can't talk to girls, that does not make the guy be the one is is not wearing the pants. some people can't help being shy - A month ago
The whole it's the guys job doesn't really make sense to me.I see at times girls going up to guys and more ,so I see guys,but it should be my equal.Guys are shy and girls are shy and just ,because ur shy that does not make you a wimp.I remember my dad telling me it was the girls who came up to the men more in the past ,but as time went on things changed.(I'm not 100% sure if this is true.I'm done. - A month ago
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Answerer
You know what I think I'll open up another question about this because despite my point of view girls can be pretty harsh with the rejection towards many guys that come up to them. So in general if they whine about guys not asking them out they have only themselves to blame since they've made the prospect of talkin to a girl a risky behavior. - A month ago
@Dela1111- It is a shame species like you are heading for imminent extinction ... T.T ... Why woman has to do man's job. A guy once told me that the reason is that fathers don't live with their sons anymore (high % of divorces). Boys don't receive any reference of what a man should be. - A month ago
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Question Asker
Why even said asking a girl out is the guys job? Is it the women's job to cook? I think not so why should it be the guys job to ask a girl out. - A month ago
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Answerer
To Toona the vampire girl, I'm fairly positive that my "species" is going to carry on for quite some time. - A month ago
I believe that to say ANYTHING is the job of either sex is wrong. I believe in total equality in the relationship and for any girl to say I have a specific "role" or "duty" just because I'm a guy is an old and outdated belief that goes hand-in-hand with times when white people bought and sold black people like property.
There are instances where one person has the responsibility: Take for instance this girl's situation:
She is fully aware that the guy likes her and she likes him. He however has no clue about the mutual attraction. As the only person who is aware of the mutual attraction between them, it logically falls on her to initiate.
There are some arguments yes about how men enjoy "the thrill of the hunt" but the truth is that guys who are like that often make poor boyfriends because they get bored once the "hunt" is over and they get what they want, so they move on.
I would definitely disagree with the guy taking charge going hand in hand with slavery. Very asinine statement. - A month ago
Answerer
I'm just saying that the concept of assigning roles or jobs to people based on gender is an archaic concept that as far as I'm concerned is just as barbaric and just as obsolete in today's society. I like to think that we live in an age where we can think logically, with our heads, and not let ourselves be ruled by concepts that sound a lot like ME MAN, YOU WOMAN - A month ago
It should be the job of whomever it is that wants to go out with the other person, as simple as that. If someone wants something it should be up to them and them alone to at the least try to obtain it.
Both should not have to wait for days, weeks, or months for the other to ask them out. They should just.. do it.
Sadly.. We still live in a society where most people think men have to just about initiate everything... It really irritates me that many women out there think they'll wait for the guys to do that.. and not even consider doing it for once.
ummm see the thing is idk...ive always been asked out...but now there's this girl I like and I don't know how to approach her lol I'm used to girls coming to me and now lol I'm blank ...but yeah it should be both there's no one has to do this and the other that "rule"
I'm torn between B and C. My reason? Well I don't have a whole lot of experience, but I accept the guy's role in initiating things, I don't expect girls to just come up to me and ask me out. But, at the same time I believe both girls and guys should go after what they want, and not let opportunities pass them by; i.e., if a girl is really interested in a guy, she should hint at her interest/make it easier for him to ask her out, and if all else fails, ask him out herself.
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