Tired of controlling, manipulative, and snobs.

one of my friends is like that, and she said it's because all guys have an ulterior motive. if they're being friendly or nice to you, it's because they want in your pants. so she figures why should she be "nice" if you're really not being "nice" and just want to do it?

i'm not like that though, I speak to everyone who says hi to me. that's how I was raised! I don't care if the guy is ugly, I'm not going to be rude like that

If a girl doesn't say hi back doesn't always mean that she thinks she's too hot for you or anything.
Some girls actually think that guys that just say hi to them out of nowhere don't respect them and they are just saying hi to just have fun. not because they're actually interested.

If you want a girl to talk to you, you should have eye contact first. see if she's interested, if she smiles at you or does something. don't just say hi first.
Ofcourse they're not going to say hi back. they're just gonna think "why did this random guy that doesn't even know me, say hi to me"
i don't know that's my opinion

"Without women, men would just lay down and die."

I'd love to answer with just that, but hang in there! Not all girls are like this, I promise. It's sad that girls act like this, but honestly, there are just as many sweet girls as there are snobby ones.

I don't know who you try and say hi to but most strangers I meet say hi back when I say hello. This is not most women, I have to tell you. If it makes you feel better, stop saying hello.

Of course, some women may think that because you said something to them, you are trying to make a play and they aren't interested. That's the only thing I can think of.

Good luck!

You seem very let down by women, but I'm not understanding why. What are you looking for out of them that you're not getting?

Bear in mind, not every female is like that. If someone says hi to me, I usually acknowledge them, either with a smile or a hello. I'm very guarded, but I don't try to give people reason to think poorly of me either.

Is it possible that these women are unsure of why you are saying hello? It could be a bit of a shock when a strange guy says hello to them, or they were off in their own world when you said it and didn't realise it until after you were gone. I know I'm like that on occasion.

OK WOW! This sounds more like a venting session than a question. But I understand what you mean. A lot of my girl friends ignore guys when they say hi to them out in public. It bothers me when they do actually. I always return a hi that is given to me, and usually with a smile. I'm truly sorry for all the women that don't say hi back. But there really are some of us that do. Take care.

And PS, I only kiss girls when I feel drawn to them, never to "show off" or "upset" someone.

The first problem is that you are putting expectations on how girls must act. If you have no expectations of how you think they should act, then you won't be disappointed by some of these lady's behavior. And secondly, why should you even care how they act? First off, unless you are flipping them off while saying hi or giving them some weird creepy stare as you pass, then there really isn't any justification for them to behave this way, so why should you care? It's their problem not yours. If it's not something you are doing, than it's not because of you which I think is the deep underlying issue. There is nothing wrong with you at all.

A lot of the time women who you pass by on the street are in their own little world dealing with their own little life stressors and drama that they have going on in their life completely oblivious most of the time to most people as they pass. And yes, women have their guard up while passing strangers, especially men, and some are not going to be as friendly as you would like them to be. The key to getting some sort of positive reaction from random ladies you pass by on the street, or in public for that matter is to give them a motive/reason to say hi and talk back to you.

And the kissing was more than likely just to see what kind of reaction they would get out of you. MOST women love to stir up uneccesary drama in their lives because it puts them in the limelight. Hence, most female celebrities. The kissing was completely for attention and wasn't intended to "Show off" or "Upset" you and hey for all you know, maybe they were trying to turn you on ya think? Hell, I wouldn't be complaining if 2 women started kissing in front of me.

Bottom line man, you gotta stop taking things so personally. Women are going to act the way outside influences have taught them how to act around others, regardless of who the person is. Just keep in mind you can only be in control of your behavior and nobody elses. They make their own conscious choices in life and will also deal with any consequences that may come about from that. Not your problem though. Don't sweat the small stuff bud.

I've been told a lot of stories from my dad (who honestly looked just like me when he was my age, you couldn't tell the difference between him and I in some pictures from when he was my age) who said that from the stories I've told him, women sound a lot different than they used to be. According to him, you could say hi to a girl and start a conversation with them pretty easily, they weren't as guarded, but they weren't sluts either. Now, it seems as though unless you've been somehow brought together through a friend, or just introduced in some way, you'd better just forget ever speaking to them. Yes, I want to talk to girls I'm attracted to because I would like to get a date with them, however, just wanting to get a date with them doesn't mean I'm doing it just to sleep with them. Some people truly do like being in a relationship, yet everyone's stereotyped. According to girls, all guys want to sleep with them, according to guys, all girls only want the rich douchebags. I'm sure it's not always true, but after a while it sure seems that way.

With all due respect, you sound like a whiner, and a loser.

Assume the following: You have a daughter and you love your daughter very much (like any normal father would). Before you became a father and before you found the girl of your dreams whom you married and had the daughter with, you liked to date, and occasionally, you liked to have sex.

After all, as you know, most males love to have sex. Gay or straight. I digress.So as you dated, of course you didn't want to get into a serious relationship early in your life, but you still wanted to have sex. There was a problem, however: Girls wouldn't give it up, unless you told them that you cared for them and that you loved them.

So how do you solve the dilemma? Either you find the sluts that give it up to anybody and who also give diseases to anybody, or you find the average girls that also want to have sex, but they also want to be cared for, so you told them that you cared for them and you loved them just to get sex, but you didn't really mean it. Once you got tired of them, you moved on to the next vagina.I mean girl.

Thus, as a responsible father, you wouldn't want your daughter to fall for these men, and eventually warn your daughter that men will do anything to get sex from them. And guess what? As much as your daughter would love to find a decent guy to love, she remember's daddy's advice that most men are out to get f***ed, so she is very selective and ignores all those creeps that come up to her an say hi.

Now, put yourself in girl's or a woman's shoe, and then think of what's going on in their head when you say hi to them. Or for that matter, the bunch of other creeps that say hi to her. How can you make yourself stand out from all those creeps saying hi? You have to learn what makes women think, and you have to also go out there and practice what you learn. Believe me, is not easy, but if you don't do this, you'll be whining and bitching for a long time.

There was another loser on this board complaining about the same thing and I referred this loser to those manuals out there on how to beat the game, and the loser replied with, "im not trying to get laid; I'm trying to find a good girl." What the moron didn't understand was that what he needed to learn was how women ticked, and even if you got the nice girl, these gals will get tired of you if you continue behaving like a weak whiner, because after all, sluts or prudes, they are looking for a man.

If anything, I highly recommend that movie with Mel Gibson, "what women want." That is to give you the idea that women don't think like you, and believe me, many women also can't figure out guys because they think that guys should think like women. Well, we don't. Once you watch the movie get on google and look the literature on how guys beat the game etc.

Now, get a hold of your balls and go be a man.

In many respects you're exactly right. I know many girls who have told me they respond to those things in the way you described it. Like, some person says "Hi" and they just ignore him, but then go home and celebrate.

Women say men are the same, but the truth is we aren't. The reason it seems like we are is because those same women keep trying to date the same men, the same top .01% of men in the world. What about the 99.9% of the other guys? They aren't good enough.

So many girls think JUST because a guy talks to her is because he thinks she's hot, or he wants to get laid. A lot of the time it's just to get to know the person, but you're right, so many girls are so stuck-up they take it as an ego boost and keep moving.

Though, there are plenty of women who aren't like this.but.women truly crush men's egos on a daily basis. Back in high school whenever we watched a movie with some hot male main character, ALL the girls MOANED and GROANED, and every f*((+Y&()&)& guy was instantly depressed. By contrast.the guys didn't do this.

Case closed. And again, there are women who are perfectly okay. Just.a lot aren't, especially not until they go through hell in life and then FINALLY decide to lower the standard from .01 to 100