just skimming through this, I can see that we have a wide range of immaturity to wisdom on this site. Its really disturbing to see how judgmental, hypocritical, disrespectful, and unaccepting some people are...but I'm glad to see that there are some people who realize judging and trying to force your own opinions and beliefs on someone (whatever they may be) is messed up.
Ok, what do you mean? You can't possibly mean that all Christians are "judgemental, hypocritical, etc"? That's generalizing. I myself am more of a Thomist (perennial philosophy) but you can't say all of one belief is a certain way. That's like saying all Wiccans are witches who worship Satan! - A month ago
Just like we can't say all atheists are like the Just Dance person, who is so obviously just trying to get a rise out of everyone. - A month ago
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I wrote this a long time ago and I don't feel like reading through everyones answers. but I never would have meant that all christians are judgemental hypocritical etc. I have encountered far more obnoxious athiests than christians so definitely not. yeah I don't judge everyone based on what person? I don't really know what you took this as but I wasn't judging one certain belief group off of one person, I was judging certain people for their comments (which were very disrespectful to others beliefs - 19 days ago
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So to make myself clear, I am not disrespecting a belief system I am commenting on how I don't like those who do. - 19 days ago
I am a proud Christian and have been so since I learned to comprehend such things.Though,I would never force my religion on someone else nor degrade their beliefs as it is disrespectful.=) 'Men are respectable only as they respect'-a quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson
It depends on the type of christian and the person in general. There are a lot of extremist christians out there. They belive drinking is wrong, evolution never happened and in truth there is very little difference between them and an islamic extremist who belives killing them selves in the name of a jihad will grant them 40 virgins. But most christians (not necissarily the other people who have posted on this page) know that you have to take everything with a grain of salt - 2 months ago
I've investigated and debated this issue enough to understand that while micro evolution is an incontrovertable fact, macro evolution is a specious theory. Every knowledgeable and truly ethical evolutionist I've ever spoken with, acknowledges that the evidence is not available to elevate the theory to fact, and thus a belief-system (or faith) is required in order to hold to the theory as such. It then only becomes a matter of where one chooses to place their faith. - 2 months ago
There is some truth to evolution. You can't deny that things do evolve. However, evolution also states things that go completely against Creation, which is what Christians believe. We don't believe that things just happened out of nowhere. I won't deny that maybe humans look different 6,000 years ago because they might have. But I don't believe we evolved from animals in any way shape or form. Both Evolution and Creation are theories. - 2 months ago
As I stated above, "micro evolution is an uncontrovertable fact". Micro evolution translates to evolution within the species, which is what you refer to so ably in your post. - 2 months ago
Well I'm muslim and I have studied biology extensively. the way my logical mind works is that I fully believe in animal evolution even to the point of early "human" such as Homo habilis to Homo neanderthalensis. where my faith comes in is the idea of a soul, this is what differentiates us from animals. early homo sapiens had souls and therefore were the first "humans". I don't think anyone could deny evolution that's just absurd, the evidence is too strong. - 2 months ago
I can as well say, I don't think anyone could deny the divinity of Christ, that's just absurd, the evidence is too strong. You apparently embrace the theory of the evolution OF species, but do correctly express your position as a "belief", as the evidence in this area is, at best, inconclusive, and at worst, contrived. Despite over 150 years of frenzied effort, no transitional life form has been found in the fossil record. The gaps are enormous. I'm afraid I haven't enough faith for this. - 2 months ago
Palek, "acknowledges that the evidence is not available to elevate the theory to fact, and thus a belief-system (or faith) is required in order to hold to the theory as such."
This is so much bs, it made me laugh. You could say that "this is proof God exists" and have the same effect. It is NOT "required" nor is it "needed" to "hold" the theory in place. Don't bullsh*t the audience and expect them to believe your words because you express absolute certainty in them. - 2 months ago
I, of course, never implied anything more was needed to "hold the theory in place", but only noted (and quite correctly), that far more is needed to elevate the theory to a level of fact ("as such"), or truth. I think if you reread my post you'll see that you misread it. Or, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Either way, I trust this shores things up for you. This is old stuff, nothing I claim the credit for. It's only frustrating, as it's so unbendably true - 2 months ago
It is only true for those who want to believe that there is more than just macroevolution (theory) and that meteors with life started life on earth or whatever other theory exists, there are so many...
And God is just another one, except it stretches beyond this plane to another. - 2 months ago
Granted. What it all comes down to is a lack of "proof". The theist can't prove that God exists, and the Atheist, can't prove he doesn't. For this reason, both positions require faith on the part of their adherents, and thus the only unaffected position becomes that of the agnostic. The theist and the Atheist can point and posture at one another accusingly, but it can never come to more than a boast as to who's faith is more rational. Why split hairs? We choose our horses and ride them. - 2 months ago
In my view of reality, if the idea of God existing and praying to Him, thinking He listens to you, etc... If those things help live your life happily and assuades fear or stress of things in life and its end, in death, its fine to believe in what you want. personally, I don't believe in God or demons, surely they can be expressed differently, but I discredit those things in my life because I'm as happy as a clam :D I'm a realist, an optimist even tho those 2 coincide a lot lol - 2 months ago
It all comes down the every single individuals reality of life, through their acquired values in life, life experience, etc. if faith becomes one they grow to become attached and can help them become harmonious, tranquil, strong through belief and reach a frame of mind that works WITH them, go for it. I can have those things, with discipline and conditioning in thinking and visualizations... I have those things, there is no need for faith in Gods to help me with all things in life. All things. - 2 months ago
Essentially no one can "win" a debate such as this lol. Gods vs No Gods Creation vs Evolution Unicorns vs. Leprechauns vs Santa vs Demons vs Angels vs a hippogriff
All I've been saying on here is defending my values, my beliefs in "nothingness" as you so negatively put it for us palek, in the end no one is right, no one is wrong. Your reality and view of it does not represent everyone's reality of life on this plane or another, its all point of views that develop themselves as we grow. - 2 months ago
Very well said, and I agree with you on all but one crucial point. You say "in the end, no one is right, no one is wrong. If your contention that God doesn't exist is sound, you are right in this, however, if not...........? I remained a skeptic for over 50 years, yet always maintained a keen interest and open mind in this area (after all, so much could be at stake), and finally came to a place of absolute, unshakeable faith. A sure sense of inner-peace and well-being followed with it. - 2 months ago
Well if you think there is something at stake, then go all in and put your beliefs where you want them to benefit you the most. I'm glad you found the inner peace, some people, like atheists, acquires it through different means; not through deities and the supernatural. I guess this is where our ideas differ and because I don't believe in your God, you would believe I'm going to hell, and if you serve jesus and love him and live a "christian life"& whatnot, you will go to heaven. I couldn't care less. - 2 months ago
to Justdance: why are you so rude? do I make belittle you for being an atheist? no, I don't. show some respect. you are no different to a homophobe. don't make stupid belitling remarks on something just because you don't accept. saying your opinion once is fine, but saying it again and again just shows how insecure you are about it that you have to keep stating it. you say you are openminded? bullsh*t. you are just as narrowminded as a religious person who thinks all non religious people are doomed to hell or something. you are so bound to your own ideas you have to be offensive towards other peoples. I'm a religious people yet I would never ever insult someone or belittle them based on their religious beliefs. so I guess I'm the one who's better off here, not because I'm religious but because my beliefs are no obstacle to how I judge people and because I'm not so overcome by the fear of not understanding something that I have to repetitvely state that I think other peoples beliefs are a joke. you're an atheist? good for you. you don't have to put other people down to make yourself look better. if you feel what you believe is strong then it stands strong by itself, you don't have to make other ideas small for it to look better.
And you are no better of thinking how sad it is for atheist to not believe in afterlives and angels and heaven. We just... die. Decompose and c'est la vie.
You say you are the "better" one here, because I "insulted" you. You called me "your just as bad as some islamic extremist." because I judge you through your belief/values? I'm pretty sure everyone can judge people based on those. Its what defines an individual, their faith tells a thousand words parisa.... - 2 months ago
Also YES you did insult me as well so. YOU ma'am. you are contradicting yourself (read up). Good job, you aren't the first.
I am not "overcome by the fear of not understanding something"................ afraid of what Parisa... coool name btw. But tell me. What is this something I am afraid of? I couldn't be afraid of the immense power that any faith has when it is practice by millions or billions if ur muslim... I'm afraid of many little things. So clear my head here and clarify what it is. - 2 months ago
I never expressed myself as saying " I think people's beliefs are a joke" Quit pulling sh*t out of your ass and tell me its mine. (seriously, I must have used this expression 3+ times on this page already lol) quit saying I said/expressed something I didn't. Because its putting lies in my mouth and serves but giving me a "bad image". Obviously it IS your goal isn't it. And it is insulting to me. So quit being contradictive(lol is this a word?) Parisa. - 2 months ago
"you don't have to put other people down to make yourself look better."
Your doing it right now. :) Next we have making ideas small to make mine larger....
not sure what you mean here, umm, why don't you explain that last 2-3 sentences, I've got jello for brains right now, brb some time tonight, see what you got in store for me. :] - 2 months ago
Also I just wanted to add that if you knew more about the psychological/sociological aspects in human communication and language, verbal and non verbal, When two people are working against eachother, arguments, debates, whatver, sure we try to be as respectful and riding the royal horse essentially like Palek does so well on here tbh. But he's a seasoned man so, very understandable. We all DO try to put down each other in one way or another. You probably won't notice it at first, but its there. - 2 months ago
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I don't judge or insult anyone for their beliefs.i judge or insult people based on their treatment of other people when they assume they are superior to others. I am not superior to you, no you are to me. thank you, all your comments just proved my point even further so I don't even have to contine this. - 2 months ago
Then you judge blindly and inefficiently lol I like seeing the whole picture, taking the rocky road... apparently you just want the shortcut. Just because you don't want to feel like the bad guy and judge someone by their beliefs because OH NO, it is not a nice thing to do? Think about that really long and hard... - 2 months ago
Judging isn't always to make a negative judgement on people, it can be positive as well. And I take all the aspects of an individual to "read" them in a sense. To Judge. Ive been around some people who were snakes or leeches, people who are fake and I like reading people to judge, to know who they are through their behaviour (like you so eloquently said about me being a bad bad boy ;) I find that what you said at the end is either lazy or speechlessness to what I've replied to you. thanks4urtime:) - 2 months ago
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I pity you if you judge people by the path they wish to take. I place good actions, good words, good deeds and ood intentions way before. therefore I do not think I judge blindly. I have met horrible religious people, and I have met amazing atheists. their path is irrelevent. their goals and desires tell me much more about them. - 2 months ago
I never said I judged people first and foremost by their beliefs. Like you stated, there are much more important and simpler ways to read a man or woman through their actions, words, deeds and intentions... their faith/beliefs in the religious aspect can tell A LOT about a person, about their lifestyle, their deeds, their actions, their intentions.. all that you said.. and more. I am totally wiht you on that, but you are wrong if you think you can't judge people by their beliefs, because You can. - 2 months ago
Otherwise, I totally am with you on that, and we should end on a good note lol :D good talk - 2 months ago
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Let me ask you, if you were at sea, ready to drown no help in hand, your final moments, would you not look around you and cry for some force to save you? for anything to help you? for some miracle to get you out? maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't. you wouldn't know till you were there. that something, that miracle, that help, that desperate cry for something to protect you I call God. you might call it coincidence or good luck. I don't need to be in desperate need to ask, I search for it in my - 2 months ago
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In my happier moments. what I'm trying to explain sir, is that you might compare God to fairies or leprechauns, but to me God is the very reason I am capable of loving. no of course I can't prove that He exists, that's why they call it faith sir. my faith in a life that has eventual meaning and purpose is what pushes me to do good, to accept people for who they are, to have goals, to see beauty in everything. I don't need to see "evidence", I don't even read the arguements. just let it be. - 2 months ago
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Do not tell me I am wrong. you are no one, as am i. I tell you what's in my heart, who are you to judge me? if you are truly happy in life then I wish you the very best and I hope you will always be happy. but do not be fooled you know everything. you have your beliefs, that's fine. but don't you dare tell me whether I'm right or wrong in mine. I don't take orders from religious leaders and I certainly won't take them from you. I couldn't care less whether you agree or not, just go be happy. - 2 months ago
Just dance-you are over the top. as a christian, I don't go around telling people their views are wrong because its just that; their view. just because you are an atheist doesn't mean you have to go around flaunting your views and dissing others. it just makes you look bad - 2 months ago
"dont pull sh*it out of your ass"? very respectful. you must be a catch. - 2 months ago
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Maybe you should have specified, when you first said "nah". you don't need to mock christians by saying "im sure as a christian, you will forgive me" when you come off as a hater. you can be forgiven, but you'll always be a bitch. - 2 months ago
Yeah. its a saying lol " because you (baker003) pretty much created something out of nothing, pulled sh*t out of ur ass and put it in my hands. Its not my sh*t. its yours. And its untrue lol :DThere's like 5 sayings similar to it, I guess I should have chosen a less descriptive one.
for the "nah" part baker003, I do apologize good madam. also, quit taking life so seriously. you won't get out alive :) lol, in other words, don't take everything I say so seriously. a little humor goes a long way... - 2 months ago
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Don't even get me started on Christianity. I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?
Ugh. seriously? the f***ing spaghetti bullsh*t again? are you like one of those people who posts that as ur religion on Facebook. seriously how much of a loser are you? (im sorry to be mean to you lol)
You are such a loser for saying what you just said. Thank GOD ur anonymous ( =D ) lolololol i believe in a god that grants sh*tty lives to people like you - 2 months ago
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Wow, you know that is really Christian of you. Speaking down to someone like that and calling me a loser it not what Jesus taught. You should be ashamed of yourself. - 2 months ago
Way to go on assuming that JustDance is christian (which he isn't). are people who believe in the flying spaghetti monster all so ridic? - 2 months ago
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No,l don't really believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It is a joke, because believing in something floating around in the sky and dictating everyone's lives is ridiculous. - 2 months ago
Umm.. I am not christian, jewish or muslim or member of any religious belief system. Atheism FTW.
So... yeah.... not sure what to tell you lol. there's no shame, xept for you acting like a fool for saying you believe in monsters. - 2 months ago
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Second, I don't know this justdance character. I just assumed he was Christian because the FSM is an atheist thing. Also I think you should mind your own business. It is obvious that you only decided to give your 2 cents because I am not a Christian. - 2 months ago
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It's a joke ffs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster - 2 months ago
I didn't give my 2cents just because I was a christian. I gave my 2cents because you just assumed that someone who thoguht your FSM thing is lame, is a christian when he isn't. you just contradicted yourself, if you don't know him, you shouldn't assume what he is or isn't in the first place. there you go assuming sh*t again that I gave my opinion just because I'm a christian. run along now, child. obviously you're not very mature. g'day. - 2 months ago
Why the hell do you give a damn on what other people beliefs are? seriously, I don;t know you so I'm not going to assume anything but from what I can see, you get your kicks out of ridiculing others. I don't really care whta your beliefs are, they are irrelevant to me, but the way you treat people and speak down to them is dispicable. I don't care who you are, what you do, where your from but seriously dude, for your own good, learn some respect. I'm honestly not trying to preach. - 2 months ago
Your seriously pathetic to say such a thing and also claim to be open minded. your judging someone based on their beliefs. your just as bad as some islamic extremist. and if you don;t see that you're more ignorant as you are making out to be. want your opinion to be respected? then don't express by default through the put down of others. what makes you think you are any better? you might not respect my faith but at least I'm not so narrow minded that I judge people by what they believe. - 2 months ago
You CAN judge people by their beliefs. Its what defines who they are to a certain EXTENT. So you're wrong on that part.You are WRONG. k?
Am I pathetic? lol I don't know. Who are YOU to judge? :) You are just as bad as a liar and hence, sinner! ooooh nooooo
I didn't say I was better, I just expressed what I (me not you, not some religious organization doctrine) what I believe is the reality of things. Because tbh, everyone has their own views. Accept it.
Although I may seem arrogant, and may be misconstrued with disrespect, I do respect ur beliefs, I just like to know how people react/think about it and respond to "threatening" messages as such.
also I think you commented on the wrong answer LOL - 2 months ago
im muslim and I'm guessing a load of ignorant hillbillys will "disagree" with me being muslim. well up yours. each to their own. I live my life the way which makes me happiest, you live your life the way in which makes you happiest. I went to a catholic public school for the majority of my life and my parents have taught me from a young age the importance of all major religions including Buddhism and Hinduism as well as lesser established ones such as Zoroastrianism. I have read the Torah, Bible and Quran many times and I take offence to anyone making ignorant comments about ANY religion. religion to the individual is precious and to offend it is like offending an individuals mother or father. religion is not for everyone, should not be enforced or pushed upon. the same way I have respect for a "non believer" and I expect the same respect back. just becuase you do not undertsand something, or the concept cannot be justified doesn't make it wrong.
I feel you little lady... Why people try to force it on you is beyond me... :( I could never force it, but its so good to me, that I do like telling people about it. I try to learn more about other religions, and that's where you impressed me... Good luck in life...
I recently attended an open-casket memorial service for a deceased Atheist. As I looked at him in his coffin, I couldn't help but shake my head and think, "What a pity, all dressed up and no place to go. - 2 months ago
Yeah, it's how they communicate without words because they know they lack any sense of integrity to their"faith". Or their just ignorant of it/knows they can't "win" an argument.
I always find atheists are much much more knowledgeable than deists and their religion lol. - 2 months ago
There are 2.1 billion christians in the world. 1.5 billion muslims. any reference section in the humanities section in an average library will tell you this. - 2 months ago
Huh, that's weird because I just read an article in april (printed in april too) with different estimates.. :S I'll do some googling lol. - 2 months ago
Atheist. I was raised with a non denominational Christian father and an atheist (like 5th generation) mother. I did Sunday school and when I was older, church. But I don't think I ever believed. I didn't believe in Santa because my father played Santa, and so from as young as I could remember I started putting God in the same group as Santa.
As I got older, I became a science junkie. By 12 I was reading anything I could get my hands on about my two pet loves, astronomy and dinosaurs. The wonders of size and time was what really was flooding my head. How big the universe is, and how old.
The concept of God, and more so being God's special people, really drifted from my mind by that stage. To me it seemed so vain. Why would God make the universe this big, and this old, to get to this point? And why us? Why are we so special?
Once I hit 15 it was cemented. I went through multiple personal tragedies, and I started to get really angry at God for not existing (odd isn't it). I was thinking that if only there was a God, they could help in X Y Z circumstance.
That's when I decided to read the bible. At the time, I only had a Good News bible, but for my 18th birthday, my friend (who's also an atheist) bought me a King James. It was then I really started to understand how... odd... the bible is. Condoning of killing children and slavery. Inconsistencies (look at the 2 versions of the 10 commandments for a start). Heck even changes between the bible themselves.
I started to pay more attention to 'religious' leaders too. "God wants you to send me a cheque". "You must have faith, have faith and donate!". Also other things like "The doctor worked for 12hrs to save Timmy, and he lived. Praise be to God it's a miracle." "I found my glasses thank god" (meanwhile, a child is raped and murdered).
When Dr Dawkins wrote "The God Delusion" I changed my tone. I don't hate Christians (or anyone of other faiths) so much these days (although I do hate 'religion' as in the dogmatic exploitations, of say televangelists). Instead I have pity for people with faith.
I think faith is a bit like a security blanket that people need to keep themselves sane. They need to 'know' grampa is in Heaven, because the alternative of non-existence is so terrible. If that's all faith was, I could agree, and perhaps envy it. But faith has 'us and them'. If it's not Christians and protestants, it's Muslims and Jews, or any other religious plagued war. I worry about how some people see the mass loss of life as a good thing (because it's the end of time), and worry about what they might do to make it self-fulfilled.
As an atheist, to me there is no God, so we're the ones that have to make miracles. We're the ones that have to stop wars, that have to work for peace. That have to try and save Timmy in the operating theatre, and help Wendy escape her abusive husband. If there's no God, we need to make the miracles.
And is seems the majority of people here are Christian. Not that I'm surprised. I myself am an Atheist. Not one to let that effect my relationship with a person though =) I hate it when the other person doesn't feel the same way.
I, and presumably the other two people, gave you thumbs down because you randomly attacked a lot of the people who identified as Christians, which is mean. - 2 months ago
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I didn't know trying to understand other peoples point of view can be viewed as an "attack" if I challenge their knowledge on their beliefs. I suppose I can apologize, but tbh, I expect much more from you guys. :)
But whatevs, I apologize for coming off as a jerk, I really AM a nice guy :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) - 2 months ago
I gave you a down arrow because you're the one who's brainwashed by your beliefs, and you're being really disrespectful as a result.
You're not trying to understand other people's views, you're just criticizing them. Despite what you claim, you're not open-minded at all when it comes to religion; you're putting down other beliefs simply because you don't agree with them (i.e. you're closed-minded).
And I hate to break it to you sweetheart, but Atheism is as much a belief system as Christianity - 2 months ago
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How can I be brainwashed if I grew up without any person or persons/ the Internet, telling me what is true and what is false? I haven't been brainwashed at all, if I have, I have been brainwashed to think for myself and view my reality independently from others.
And sweetheart, Atheism is a belief on its own... just like Agnosticism and Scientology is a belief. You did not have to break it to me honey, its common sense and maybe you should know: belief =/= belief in god. Belief is many things. - 2 months ago
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Also rainbows, I didn't just insult your religious organization, according to parisa I insulted her as well, and she's muslim lol. I don't have a "grudge" against any deists lol, what's the point. Not like you can prove anything. Faith in supernatural entities isn't something you can just say exists because you believe (even though you do think that, or whatever soothes your mind) that's how I see it (me). I might come off rudely on the topic of religion, I can't help being a blunt and honest person:) - 2 months ago
You don't have to grow up with something in order for it to become an extreme belief. People are just stating their views here, and you're leaving rude comments--you think that's different from a Christian telling you that you're wrong? You can think for yourself without putting others down.
And I never said a belief meant a belief in a god... "Umm.. I am not christian, jewish or muslim or member of any religious belief system. Atheism FTW." ...I'm just telling you that you're wrong. - 2 months ago
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Who said anything about extreme beliefs (or maybe you are talking about radicals??)
As for putting people down? Me and Palek just had contradicting views and I just pointed out how rude it was of him to indirecty attempt to sway me away from my own beliefs which is as rude as it gets, and trust me, if someone insults me or people I care about, you can believe in this: I will fight if I have to, physically or verbally, its all game to me. I do not accept second class behavior. - 2 months ago
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You said :"
And I hate to break it to you sweetheart, but Atheism is as much a belief system as Christianity"
implying that I was ignorant enough to not know such a thing. And that is rude in itself. Can you see the light now, so to speak?
How am I wrong? No body is right coolrelax, Nobody is right, nobody is wrong, we just got conflicting views on one of the deepest issues in life, and obviously, there will be a sh*tstorm if you like it... or not. - 2 months ago
I'm not saying that your beliefs are wrong, I'm saying you're wrong if you think you don't have a religious belief system.
I have no problem with your views, it's the way you present them that bothers me. You might think that you're just discussing religion, but you're doing it in a hostile way. Look who disagreed with your answer: Rainbows, who said she's not Christian, and me--I don't really consider myself to have a religion; even the non-religious people think you're taking it too far. - 2 months ago
I'm a Christian. I'm a member of the Solid Rock Church of God, in Kissimmee, Florida (Church of God is a mainstream denomination, with doctrinal beliefs fairly similar to those held by Baptists.) It's an amazing church, and very unique. The church building seats 500, and the congregants, with very few exceptions (me being one), are transplanted Caribbean islanders. I've never been in the midst of so many truly Godly people. The love is thick enough to cut with a knife. The food is nothing to sneeze at either; Roti, various curries, jerk meats, Ginger Beer...I expect to sprout dreads and take up the steel drum at any moment.
Just another religion based off another to complement modern lifestyle without having to commit to God themselves lol - 2 months ago
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You seem to hold to a fervent and outspoken belief in unbelief, which, of course, exposes you as a firm believer........in nothing. How pitiful is that? You really musn't continue to JustDance your life away. - 2 months ago
Lol see, I really get frustrated with people such as yourself who act so royally on your horse speaking to me like I am a lowly peasant. Maybe you should see that my belief in nothingness, in supernatural entities, like ghosts and leprechauns and yes in my view, God, is just as credible as the belief of christian, mormons or scientologists. Sure some of em may seem ridiculous to borderline ludicrous(cough scientology)
I despise how you use those words to attempt and convert or sway away - 2 months ago
From my own beliefs....... in nothingness. Im sure if I told you that god was not real. That He is simply imaginary, bogus, you would not heed my words Palek. I don't want to use strong words such as pitying that you believe in hocus-pocus. or that you believe that My beliefs are Pitiful and Sad, and whatever words you can come with to bloat your ego.... its people like you that do make me sick.
You "feel sorry" for me........... but I "feel sorry" for you.
This nothingness you speak of isn't that of life. but of Its creation or the afterlife, spirits and God himself and Jesus or what/whomever you believe in.
Because I believe in many things. I believe in feelings. Love, revenge, happiness and sadness... I believe in the good and the bad, I believe in luck even I guess, I believe in a fate that a man can guide and transform to better himself. so if nothingness is what you see us as, I pity ur narrowminded character & low expectation of us. - 2 months ago
Because you see as us inferior, as CLEARLY indicated by the way you speak(write) to me. I speak to people as equals, you aren't my boss or parent or any kind of authority figure to me, there's no need to cut some bullsh*t and act. We aren't in a play despite the famous Shakesperean saying. And if this is truly how you speak to people, argumentative or not, I do feel bad for you. You cross the line and tell me I am JustDancin my life away... - 2 months ago
So am I and atheist... Are we not worthy of living our own lives without having people like you to tell us our lives mean "nothing" in the end, despite our differences? I just want to say that people like yourself who try and use this "high" speech to communicate that I am f***ed.... that I "mustn't continue" to "waste" my life away"?
A little respect goes a long way Palek. I don't tell you to believe in flying spaghetti monsters because God is a monster.
Hell, He is if you read the bible lol. - 2 months ago
Despite having our both firm beliefs, I express what facts are know and historically,etc Accepted... coming back to my first comment, yeah its true there are branch after branch after branch of mini-churches sprouting here and there and all communicate a more specific lifestyle through the main religion in ur case Christianity. In the end, it defeats the reasons this last has been implemented into the lives of millions around the world. that's all for now haha, I'm haven't slept in forever, ur turn - 2 months ago
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You've been bouncing all over this board, baiting, jeering, and jabbing, as though anyone who professes a reverent belief-system is fair game for abuse. Sometimes the only way to quell a blaze, is with another well-placed blaze. You were so busy dispensing "medicine" to others, I began to fear for your very own wellness, and so offered you a dose in kind. Methinks you found it to be bitter. I don't look down on you in the least. In fact I see your many good qualities in abundance, yet sometimes - 2 months ago
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Fear your darker nature might consume you. I can't judge you too harshly in this, as I fight against similar demons myself. Just try and understand, faith is such a personal matter, it's best to tread more lightly when challenging a belief of this nature. I don't think of myself as better than you for a minute, and actually hold you in high regard. It's just that every now and then, we can all do with a good look in the mirror. ; - ) - 2 months ago
JustDance - I noticed the question had been updated when I logged on, so I checked back, and was shocked to find so many of your comments now missing. I'm assuming someone had them deleted, which seems to move to close to censorship for my tastes. Don't look at me in this case. - 2 months ago
Why are you stopping there Justdance? there's a lot of other religions left in this world for you to belittle. if you're having problems in thinking of any let me know, because unlike you, I'm educated, and part of being open minded is to learn about other paths in life without prejudice and bias. but being as narrowminded as you are you will probably have difficulty with that. so yeah, go on then, you know sooo much, break apart EVERY religion if your ideas are so solid. no religion is the same - 2 months ago
Lmao, medecine? I am simply expressing a point of view, however I am NOT trying to forcefeed some bs to whomever on here. You've done that ever so indirectly.
also yes, my darker nature consumes my heart and soul and I will probably become a murderer because there is no consequence in the afterlife for it (rolls eyes) AND here you go again :
"I can't judge you too harshly in this, as I fight against similar demons myself. " Quit acting as though I am f***ed. These are not demons to me... - 2 months ago
You say it best to tread lighly when challenging a belief of this nature... WHAT NATURE palek? All I can assume from this is that yours is superior than others or mine. Everytime you say something as similar as this, there is an underlying tone of a superiority complex and pompousness. Quit it palek, I can read between the lines, literally.
Maybe it is yourself who need a good look in the mirror, with your contradictions and lack of understanding. - 2 months ago
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Apparently, someone has responded to my last post, but I find I'm unable to access your comments due to some glitch in the system. When I click "show all", it merely changes to "hide below", and I'm left without access. If you are able to read this, my apologies for not responding. - 2 months ago
As a matter of fact... When I answer all my questions, I write a ending. I choose that ending because of how view myself as a christian. I'm not perfect, but I do love all.
Also, as much as possible, I try to give honest advice from a christian stand point. Hope this helps...
From what I've seen and read, all the advice you offer on this site helps. Your love comes through loud and clear. You are light, just as it should be. - 2 months ago
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Thanks Palek... Thats really encourages me to continue... Thanks!!!
I personally am an atheist I guess you would say, but considering that Christianity is the largest religion in the US and this site is primarily US based, I would say say.
I'm a Christain. I'm a very firm believer in God and make sure to keep him in my life. However, I accept other religions and I am not OBSESSED with every word in the Bible. But the church, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are things from my faith that I will keep in my life always.
...well just because you were baptized doesn't make you a Christian, even less so if it was when you were a baby, Christianity is a way of life not a title. So if you don't practice the faith then you are not of it. Not to be rude at all but them the facts. - 2 months ago
........which many deists do not bother to consider while practicing religious doctrine, and this is what makes it so hard to understand their "belief" in the supernatural when there are so many paradoxes in that belief. :/
(in response to canadianeh) - 2 months ago
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No not really the facts. And no its not a way of life, its a belief. The people who think its a way of life are the "die-hard god botherers" I was talking about. My beliefs are the same as that of most christians, but I can find no reason in going to church. But when people ask me what religion I am, I say Christian, not islamic, not buddhist, not rastafarian. - 2 months ago
"What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. " James 2:14-17 As James puts it, faith isn't just saying you believe its acting on it. Belief in God = action/Practice - 2 months ago
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