I've been active on this site for a good while so some of you are familiar with me. as you can see I'm not shy to speak my mind and post crazy a** questions with out being anonymous. now this is a question I can't find any advice on without paying a professional. How does some one get out of debt? i owe like 500 to the bank 400 to Verizon and another 700 to credit companies. these are estimates. 1600 dollars in total that I owe.
what would you suggest I do?
POLL QUESTION: Would you consider yourself financially smart?
(I'm only allowed to put five choices so... .. yeah)
Update: WOW! o.0 I wasn't expecting so many to respond. Thank you everyone for your support and insights. thanks for sharing your stories. and once again thank you for responding. much appreciated. ^_^
22 days ago
Yes, I do, throw all of your Visas away! That's a start. 1\ Start paying the debts! 2\ For the coming months cut all your eating out. 3\Don't shop you have enough already you can borrow stuff from friends if needed. You'll get yourself out of it , the good news, you're not that much into debts xD
Definitely consolidate everything- then you have one monthly payment to manage and it's a lot lower than the payments you would have to make on everything separately. It will save you money in interest and get everything done faster. But, before you do that- you should order your credit report (or whatever it is they call it where you live, I'm not sure if it's the same everywhere) to make sure you're aware of all your debt- you don't want to think you have it all paid off and a month later get a call saying you owe someone else. Also, try giving yourself a monthly budget for variable expenses (like food, gas, going out etc.) and use CASH for it- once the cash is gone, your money is gone for the month. That way you'll see how much you're spending and actually think about it. And NO credit cards during the month except to pay the bills you always pay with them (ie phone bill, cable bill etc.) Good luck!
Consolidation can be tricky and a lot of the companies consolating debts who post pubs on the internet aren't really trustworthy. The banker is the one to talk to.
Debt consolidation can help. But the main problem with debt consolidation is that it doesn't change the underlying behavior that got someone into debt or other problems. I imagine debt consolidation as being similar to liposuction: most obese people eat too much and move too little, and the fat is a symptom of the behavior. Similarly, debt is usually a symptom of a behavior problem. - 21 days ago
This is good advice. You can talk to your bank about the loan, and THEN deal with the underlying reasons - it is an impt issue. Cutting up your credit cards is a good start! Never get store cards - the interest rate it higher. You could see if you can get a line of credit from your bank if you need it for emergencies (real ones, not "I like that jacket" :D). Interest rates are much lower than with CCs. - 21 days ago
If you use the Dave Ramsey system, you don't need a line of credit for emergencies because you've got 3 to 6 months of salary in a money market account as an emergency fund. The trouble with "emergency" credit is that we bend the rules for non-emergencies (I've done so myself!). If you have to withdraw $500 from the bank, you're darn sure that it's a real emergency. - 21 days ago
Depends on the person. I am very careful with it and pay it off every month on the rare occasions that I use it.
I am a single mom of two kids, work f/t and own a home. For me to save 3-6 mos salary, while also saving for my retirement and my kids' education, would require spending virtually nothing on anything else. I am not a big spender, but it's unrealistic at my stage in life. My only debt is my mortgage, and I have savings, so I think I'm doing pretty well. - 20 days ago
If I were you I would check out a book by suze orman...I have learned so much from her books and she give advice to ordinary citizens-not just people with a ton of money. SHe also has a tv show, radio show, and web site: suzeorman.com
I'm not an expert but obviouslly pay the debt that is going to affect your credit history first. Find ways to save-maybe move back in with your parents-if your paying rent somewhere else, try to carpool to school/work to save on gas. If you have a high phone bill maybe use your landline instead or get a pay-as-you-go plan. Good luck! Luckily you don't have THAT much debt. I know someone who is $20,000 dollars in debt so I think you can get it paid off.
Orman's got some good advice, but she also advises people to keep a high credit score.
A good credit _report_ is important (no late payments, etc). But the credit _number_ simply shows how much debt you have. And it's impossible to get out of debt and build wealth if you're in debt. Most millionaires avoid credit and debt at all costs (read "The Millionaire Next Door").
If you had $1 million in the bank and never used credit, your credit score would be zero in a year or two. - 21 days ago
What I would do... is put everything together... so instead of a 3 places which you owe a small sum, I would put it all together so you can pay it off faster. Now you can have minimum payments... those are BAD! You need to pay as much as you possibly can! Check your budget (and if you don't have one, make one!) A budget consists of all the amount of money you spend in one week/month/year.. whatever you wanna do... I suggest month. Then you pick the highest payment you can pay for your debt...by staying alive ;) This will help you pay your debt quickly without getting a lot of interest (which is baaad!) So good luck! And you can go talk to someone who works at a bank (for free I think) and they will help you a lot more than we can! :)
There's probably a minimum payment you can make on each of those accounts.
With credit card companies you have to watch the interest %, which can make you owe more than you actually do.
Banks will charge you an overdraft fee, either for every day or every week your late on a payment, which only causes more debt.
I'm not in debt only because I do the whole "mattress" money savings, I save all of my money in a jar, chronicle what I put in and what I take out.
Chances are if your employed you should start allotting certain amounts to each company, break it down, pay off Verizon first, then the credit cards, then the bank. Or else ask each company what the minimum payment is. Start cutting coupons to grocery shop (this will save you some serious bank) use the membership cards they give you (free I may add), I forget which but either Vons or Ralph's pays you to shop, they'll send you a set of 20 dollar "checks" good at any of their retail stores. Also, try to get a second job if you don't already have one, it doesn't have to be glamorous, just something that brings in some kind of income every month.
If your not employed, I suggest you get 2 jobs, they don't have to be these glamorous jobs with a 401K, etc etc. They're always hiring at grocery stores, the holiday season is coming up--major hiring then, just pick up as many job applications as possible. Do shifts no one wants, like the night shift, yeah it's a pain in the ass, but there's more work and more work means more money.
DO NOT: Use any "bail out" or "save you from debt" companies, 90% of these are scams! Don't borrow money from the bank to pay off the other debts (or as they say, rob peter to pay paul) that'll just make your situation worse.
I answered B. But that's only because I do not consider myself some kind of amazing financial worker. I have no check book, no credit cards, and no bank account. I pay for everything in cash. My mom bailed herself out of a pretty large debt so far using the system I've put up for you, I wish you the best.
But the rest sounds like good advice. Only problem with having no checkbook or credit cards at all is that you have no credit rating. If you ever want a mortgage or a loan, that would be a problem. - 21 days ago
LadyLuck: To get a loan without a credit rating, simply visit a bank or credit union that does manual underwriting. This means they carefully examine your job history, tax forms and so on rather than simply looking at a FICO number. - 21 days ago
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If he can't pay the interest, why would he go for the maximum payment? Then he'll get hit by the other companies that want money from him. Every time your late on a credit card payment your interest goes up, now they HURT you rather than just a slap on the wrist thanks to the Legislation passed on Credit Cards to "Help Poor Americans". Now the Credit cards make it more nasty for you to pay them back when you've not payed on time. Pay on time, every time. Paying the minimum on time, lower % rate. - 21 days ago
I guess I wasn't clear in my comment. I didn't mean that you HAVE to pay the maximum (although obviously, it's best), just that if you only cover the minimum payment every month, you will end up paying your debt many times over due to interest. If someone can ONLY cover the minimum payment, then of course they should pay at least that every month. If not, it has a negative effect on your credit rating. - 20 days ago
start with the account that has the highest interest rate (or has to be paid off first) paying as much as you can while paying the minimum amounts on the other accounts. once that account is paid off, roll over everything you were paying on it to the next account and so on until finally you get to the last account and will only have to pay one or two payments.
Plastic surgery. Cut up your credit cards. Then pay off the smaller debts first, while giving the larger ones a few dollars a month. When a small debt goes away, you'll have more money to put on the next one up, until the debts are paid off.
There are free debt-counseling advisors. Try a local (big) church. We had a pastor counsel us and it was free. That's how we got out of debt.
1.) The 700 to credit companies * I would really suggest dedicating all your current pay to this and what is left over ask your parents/ relatives, man up and tell em why you need it*
Why? I did a internship as a financial analyst I know the tricks they use.
2. 500 to bank.
For credit reasons. I'm sorry but how the hell do you end up owing a bank 500? I really hope you either: A.) Bounced a few checks/went over your checking account B.) Student loans If you took out a loan for around 500 dollars you are a ****ing idiot.
3. 400 to Verizon Make contact with them and tell them your situation,be honest. Again, be honest with the other person on the line.
*some other comments I have ~
Your question is just to fishy no offense. I mean 500 to a bank I just don't understand that one. 700 to credit companies I understand. 400 to Verizon I have no clue how that works or why they would even allow you to have 400 debt to them.
Look man YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR HABITS I WOULD EVEN SAY THIS IN BIGGER LETTERS BUT THIS WEBSITE DOESN'T HAVE BIGGER LETTERS OR RED FONT !
Learn to live in your means, and god bless I'll pray for you :)
in this economy avoiding banks may be seen as financially smart and just because someone is in debt, it not cool to simply say they are not financial smart many people are forced into their financial situation
this poll is too leading and vague and it won't get you accurate quantitative data
youll get a more accurate reading from the comments than this poll
1. Use a budget to control your spending. 2. Learn to say "no" to yourself, and temporarily cut luxuries from your life. 3. Get an extra job.
Imagine you got rid of cable television and eating out, and applied that $100 per month to your debt. And you also got a second job, working 16 hours per weekend at $8 per hour. Between trimming your spending, and the extra job, you'd have about $600 extra per month. You could pay off the $1600 in 3 or 4 months! And as a bonus, you'll have developed discipline and new skills.
I recommend you listen to Dave Ramsey's financial advice. He's the best finance guru, IMO -- the best by a LONG distance. He teaches the most practical, simple advice to manage your money and come out ahead. He teaches how to change the behavior that causes money problems -- debt is usually a _symptom_, such as that someone has no discipline about spending, has no plan, or is living beyond their means.
Ramsey teaches no tricks, he has no clever plan. It's simple stuff anyone can do with a notepad and calculator. His radio show is on hundreds of stations, and he's written several best-selling books. And his website offers a lot of freebies -- I use his monthly budget forms to track my spending.
Use cash as much as possible. When people use plastic (whether debit or credit), they spend _much_ more money. Cash _feels_ different when you spend it, so you spend less.
Read "The Millionaire Next Door." Most American millionaires are frugal, avoid debt at all costs, pay cash, live modestly, invest very conservatively, and inherited no wealth. - 21 days ago
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Forgot this, too:
When paying off debt, start with the _smallest_ debt first and throw every penny possible at the debt. Then move to the next smallest debt, and so on.
Paying the largest interest rate first _is_ the smart move. However, personal finance is roughlyt 80% behavior and 20% smarts. You've got to change the _behavior_.
By paying the smallest debt first, you gain momentum and enthusiasm that keeps you committed. - 21 days ago
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One last thing:
7 years ago, I had over $4,000 in credit card debt. I got angry & I started seeing the debt as my enemy. Paid it off in 18 months with budget and throwing every dime possible at the debt. I was obsessed. No credit cards since.
Didn't learn about Dave Ramsey until about 2 years ago. With his plan, my debt would've been dead in less than a year.
Getting out of debt will improve your quality of life. My income's about 30k, but my retirement accounts have grown very fat... - 21 days ago
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Call your credit card companies and they will refer you to debt consolidation services. They might be able to help.
58,634(saving up for a house and an awesome car) in bank and I'm in college ^.-. I find the best thing to do when you're buying things is to find a way to save all the money you can. Then spend it on the stuff you want! or want to do! Like for instance when you're going only a couple hundred yards from your house you can save up on gas (may not seem much at first, but you can burn $50 a week just doing that) another thing is get a nice water bottle and fill it with something you like to drink that's cheap. That way you won't spend 20-30 dollars a week on drinks. Just a month of walking those couple of yards(losing weight and living healthier for it) can save you a good $200 a month that you can in turn spend on a really nice date with your girlfriend ;D
Also for you to get out of debt I would try to settle an agreement with the companies on the amount you owe before you try bankruptcy. Unless you like 7 years of REALLY bad credit!
$1,600 isn't sh*t when it comes to debt; I'm over $12,000 in debt after being in school for 3 years and don't have a way to totally pay it off until I graduate. Because they used my W2 from when I was in the military to check my financial status for the first 1.5 years of me going to school they determined I made too much money for student loans or grants so I had to put all my tuition and book costs on a credit card. Once I graduate I plan on spending the first year and a half paying off everything I owe and never apply for another credit card again (I already stopped using the credit card months ago); you should probably do something similar before it gets out of hand.
Get Dave Ramsey's book "The Total Money Makeover" (preferably FREE at a library). Read it as fast as you can, then DO IT! His straight forward common sense is just what people in your situation need. His radio show and podcasts are great too.
Most of the "professionals" who would help you in this case are rip offs. Even the honest ones wouldn't be able to do much for you with so little debt.
InquisitiveMale: As a "self employed investor at 21 averaging a 30% gross return every quarterly" I do not think you are even close to the target audience.
It seems that so many people need to learn the basic lessons: spend less than you make, consumer debt is evil, if you don't make enough money get a better job or a second job. - 21 days ago
Read my response to what you commented on my post. You've read a book, I've received a degree. You're out of your league. - 21 days ago
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Better nor second job isn't an option. if it was I would have been outta debt. - 21 days ago
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Sorry. It is really just simple math: make more than you spend. There are no magic answers unlike what many people advertising their services what you to believe. Garage sale? Sell stuff on craigslist? What are you going to do? - 21 days ago
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Who me!? I probly go look for a job as a male stripper or somthing. a job that pays real good. one of my ex'es said I should be a chip-n-dale stipper. :) imagine me entertaining the ladies? - 21 days ago
AtomizerJr - I agree most day traders lose money. I cannot refute what is proven. I'm a swing trader not a day trader just to clarify. I generally stay in a trade for 3-7 days only on occasion scalping. - 21 days ago
Dude that's nothing I'm 2 grand in the hole with the visa, I owe the government 500 dollars because one of my bosses screwed up on my taxes and I have $300 in unpaid parking tickets...I need a job..
As a former bill collector there are a few things you can do to get out of debt. First off owing $1600.00 is not all that bad but it is still debt.
You can work out a SIF with any company providing you are already in collections. A SIF is (Settled in Full) meaning you and the company agreed on a solution such as 50% off your bill and then you have at least three months to pay it. Be careful though if you agree to do a SIF and you fail to make the required payment you may find yourself having to not only pay the whole bill but collection charges as well.
Second, You can call up each creditor and work out a weekly plan with them so as they do not report to your credit agency.
Third, Stay away from credit cards. meaning NEVER pay off one bill bith a credit card as you will find you more then likely will only transfer your debt.
Would I consider myself to be financially smart… hmm… I'm a self employed investor at 21 averaging a 30% gross return every quarterly. Enough said?
First thing you need to do prioritize. List your debts noting the interest rates. Pay off the debts with the highest rates first and work your way down the list.
In some cases you can make a proposal to your creditors to set up a payment plan that will allow you to pay your creditors in an orderly way and thus help preserve your credit rating. This operates similar to a debt consolidation loan except you do not borrow the money to pay off your creditors.
There are many other solutions when trying to get out of debt like getting a loan on your home or car sufficient to pay off your debts, saving a considerable amount of money on interest rates, but to be honest you don’t owe allot of money it’s all that’s needed is a little prioritization.
Converting unsecured debt to secured debt a terrible idea. You then risk having the home or car taken when you can't pay the debt. No conservative to average financial adviser would recommend this.
I do agree that paying off your debts highest interest rate to lowest is a smart move if you can stay motivated. - 21 days ago
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Depending on how large your dept is you are absolutely wrong! I cannot stress how wrong you are. Please do not quit your day job. Paying say 12 percent rather then 18 percent in interest rates annually on a large debt will almost always be one of the options given by ALL financial advisors.
I have a BBA specializing in finance. You're out of your league.
"Many financial experts advise against rolling credit card debt into mortgage" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32569276/ns/business-personal_finance/
"Think twice before rolling credit card debt into mortgage refinancing" http://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/rolling-credit-card-debt-into-mortgage-refinance-1266.php
"Debt consolidations can backfire on consumers who rev up spending again..." http://know.about.com/Credit_Card_Debt_Consolidation - 21 days ago
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Every one is entitled to their own opinion with or with out a degree. and those "SELF" proclaimed experts are half filled with bull sh!t.
- 21 days ago
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Some of the advice given in those articles, contradict what you yourself have said, not to mention both articles which would hold any merit are written by Cathleen McCarthy, who has a BS degree if you didn't already know. Nice try. - 21 days ago
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You are absolutely right, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Agree to disagree. - 21 days ago
Well for the rest of us who aren't as smart as you, simple plain steps like making a budget, spending less than you make, not buying crap you can't afford are the best principles to go by. Yes, it is my opinion that the additional risk of moving unsecured debt to a car or house is foolish, especially for someone worried about $1600 in debt. I know two families who are upside down in their mortgages because they did just that for boats and cars. Too big a risk for me. - 21 days ago
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I didn?t say he should take out a loan on his home or car I quote ?you don?t owe allot of money it?s all that?s needed is a little prioritization.? .
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Let me re-write that. There is a glitch with my responses sometimes, do not know why.
I did not say he should take out loan on his home or car, I quote "you don?t owe allot of money it?s all that?s needed is a little prioritization."
My advice for his fellow you agree with, you simply do not agree that taking a loan out on your home or car can sometimes be the right move depending on your size of debt and your circumstances.
Well the first thing I would do is contact the bank, Verizon and credit companies. Explain your situation to them and set up a payment plan to make things manageable. Most large companies have areas to manage clients who are in debt and if you talk to them they are generally nice. That's because they want their money :D
Secondly cancel the credit cards - they're the main reason people get into debt.
Thirdly, consider what calls you have to make and which you are doing for no reason. Identify low-rate times and make necessary calls during this time if you can. That's a hefty phone bill, is it because you are calling too much? Or is it because the plan isn't good for you?
Fourthly, work and save. Don't buy take-away food. Buy it all from the supermarket and cook all your meals. Make sandwiches to take to work. Catch public transport if it's cheaper than your gas. Take up extra shifts.
In short, stop what is adding to your debt and work it off. The longer it exists the bigger it seems to get.
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