Science vs Faith?

WOOPS! I pressed the wrong one...I'm for evolution all the way.

There are some many questions like...what came first? The chicken or the egg? Well that answer is quite simple...the egg.

Why did the chicken come from the egg? Because eggs came before chickens...lizards came first, evolved from fish that moved to land (dating of fossils proves this). Now call me crazy but lizards lay eggs...hmm. There we go the egg came firstt and the chicken was a mutation of a whatever animal layed that egg.

Simple. I don't believe in creationism one little bit! Science may not explain everything, and why is that? Science can't find every signle fossil of every single animal that lived on this earth...because it's totally unrealistic to expect every animal's skeleton to have fossilised. It's completely ridiculous for people to go...oh you can't explain this from a science point of view...there for GOD did it.

There's a lot of things religion can't explain...did the bible talk of dionsoars? Did it talk about the earth being this unhabitable rock in the middle of space with no life on it? NO! The bible says the earth was created in seven days...ok science disproved this. Eath formed over millions and billions of years...how is the bible going to explain that?

The bible makes no mention of neaderthals, and yet the inhabited this earth for close hundreds of thousands of years before cromagons (us) arrived. Go figure.

Another reason I don't believe in creationism...religious people change or "mold" what the bible says to suit the current science knowledge of the time. I mean, years ago christians believed in demons, who would posed people and witchs and now they say demons mentioned in the bible are simply metaphors for peoples inner demons... Excuse me while I laugh. Way to mold it to suit the times...I mea if creationism is the whole truth...christians should still believe in witches and demons that poses people and not just in rare cases...back in the time of salem witches...this was a strong beleif all christians believed.

Go figure!

Personally having been raised Catholic I was able to experience 'a little of both' and decided I disagreed. Being atheist I do not mean to quash anyone else's beliefs and I hope that with time they will learn to understand or accept my beliefs also.

SCIENCE. What are you studying?

well, its actually both. there are some things science can't explain. so there has to be something else that made everything. like you can't make a tree without the seed. where did the seed come from? science can't make it. so something (or someone) else made it.

its complicated. you can't have one without the other. you may try hard to get science to figure out everything but it can't. somethings can't be figured out, no matter how hard you try. so something (or someone) made it. that's just it.

I believe in both. They're not wholly separate. I don't get why people don't believe they can't exist together.

I believe in both... in some weird way..We know from evolution that the world used to be some empty planet with an atmosphere that couldn't sustain life, then suddenly little bacteria started existing. I think that evolution wouldn't have happened without some sort of outside force causing these specific two cells or whatever from fusing together and reproducing to make a totally new and different cell.

Personally I think its a bit a both. I don't believe man came from monkeys per say but I think our structure may have adapted to the world that keeps changing. Like mamoths and elephants.Our planet is getting hotter so why need the extra hair? I believe in God but I guess you can say iI believe in adaption if anything. And maybe the universe was a big bang...created by God

If you believed in God, you would understand that tumors and all that is ugly and wrong with this world is a result of sin. But since we disagree on that one crucial point, that answer obviously won't please you.

I believe in intelligent design. Why? Because I have faith and because looking at the wonders of science, as you are doing, you have to wonder if it was all on accident. Is the universe the way it is because of millions of accidents? If you believe in the Big Bang Theory, where did that stuff come from? Whether you believe in that, Theistic Evolution, or Intelligent Design, it's hard to deny that there is some sort of higher being that designed us and the world we live in. We're the right distance from the sun, we're the exact tilt the earth needs to be at, we have the right amount of water, the right atmosphere, look at one skin cell and tell me it's not amazing. It did not happen by chance.

living things come from other living things. not *poof* and its there. things change and adapt for survival. people claim that doctors healing people is a miracle. but it comes through science! why doesn't God heal crippled people? why are there homeless people and starving and diseased people!? WHY won't God, who Creationists claim is loving, just, peaceful, kind, and helpful, heal them or help them!? Creationists come up with a few answeres to explain questions like that because, even though the answer (using logic) is not probable or possible, they are uncomfortable with having a question that is not answered about God. they say 'God must have a specific purpose for that (crippled, starving, etc.) person. that is why they are the way that they are.' or, to answer the question of why something is the way that it is or a why? question 'because God made it that way.' Creationists think 'God made it. he is all powerful and all knowing. who are we to question this great God? we have no right to disobey and think or wonder at other answers.' Creationists either are people who don't want to think of dying and losing forever the good things that they have (so they have faith that life will be great in heaven and that they will still have a great life) or their life is not a good as they would like it and they want to have a hope for a better life. they do not want to face it that their life isn't the greatest. they want God to fix everything for them.

in my OPINION, those who are not satisfied with their life need to work to change it on their own. don't rely on someone else to help you get out of bad situations.

please do not take me as being closed minded. I am open to listening to any religion. there may be a God. I have just learned from my past experiences that faith in something may waste your life away. I tried to have faith. I tried to believe that one day someone would come along and fix everything. but when my life stayed the same, I realized that if I wanted it to get better, I had to work for it and change it myself.

i have a hard time seeing why someone would trust science over God. science theories have been proven wrong, but God hasn't. really man is behind science as some point so you are also choosing to trust a sinful being more than God. I think it takes more "faith" to believe in evolution than creation. I've seen God work in my life and other peoples lives so I know He is real. there are so many beautiful sights to see that only Gods Hands could have made. I've heard facts from both sides and my belief still remains with creation. there is way too much proof God exists not to believe in it.

I choose C! Raised to believe the story of creation happened as it is written, I found it difficult to swallow with all the scientific research that has been accomplished. I went back to college to study astrophysics, and the data that has been produced is vary swaying (evolution). What I want to say is why are we forced to believe in a literal interpretation? If God was explaining creation to an uneducated man, wouldn't the story as presented in Genesis be the best way to tell it? I believe in God, no doubt there, but I have a problem with taking everything literally. When we explain things to children, we explain them in steps, same thing with the Spirit inspired word of God. I've also found those who do study science in depth do believe in God, just not the spoofed version most of society accepts. I also believe this version puts limits on God that aren't required to believe in the same all powerful God. My God is big enough to handle it all. evolution and creation. That's why I don't worry about it too much. I find people who are so stuck on creation they can't be open enough to all the scientific fact, they really have a very small God who doesn't want them to learn about the world around them. Sad!

I choose B, creatonism. there is nothing like evolution its all fake. there is no time humans were primate. Charles Darwin is just lying from his nose. I believe that there is a higher authority, someone who can take life and also give life. We just have to look back at our life and see that there is a total supernatural being in charge of our lives.
Evolution theory is what a scientist made up at the lab. But for creatonism there is so much proof and I have so much testimony to tell the world. We relly do have a Saviour but we must ask HIm into our life if we need Him. People don't ask Him into their life until its too late.
one story
There was one day I went for a haircut and barber started saying that there is no god,if there is a god why are people so homeless,sick and dying. I kept quiet. After he finished giving me a haircut. when I was going home I saw people with overgrown hair and long beard looking so dirty. I came back to him and I told him that there are no barbers because I saw people with bushy hairs and he told me that people don't come to get thier hair cut. I was like hmmn people also don't come to God for salvation that's why they are sick and dying. Hahaha

Science every time. I have never believed in creationism or the idea of a greater being. Nor do I believe in the after-life, anything spiritual, vaguely religious, any god, ghosts. etc. I believe that the Bible especially is a moral text which some have interpreted in a literal sense. I want to spend my life living for the now, not living a God-fearing (or Satan-fearing) life worrying about what will happen when I die. When I die I will be buried in the ground or burned and my ashes will be sprinkled somewhere pretty so that I will be part of nature. I think nature is such a beautiful wonderous thing in itself that has occurred over millions of years and that is spectacular enough for me without having to worship a being I have never seen and have no evidence of or faith in. I will, however, and do respect and listen to the opinions of anyone else.

I did not want to put this as it might sound. But isn't it better to believe in creationism and that a higher power such as God did create the earth and accepting him to go to heaven. Because if you don't you can end up below. What I'm saying is, it's better to believe then when we die, and possibly find out the truth to find out it's too late for you to now say you are a believer. If there was no God then you would have nothing to worry about either way. But if you didn't believe and there is one, what do you think the consequences would be? So I choose B. Also, there are too many miracles, that I have personally seen that you can't put all of them down as consequences.

I chose C, simply because neither evolution nor creationism seem to really explain everything for me. I suspect it's impossible to really "know" the truth about where we came from or why.

I don't believe a being [a god] suddenly decided to create us because that just doesn't make sense to me. There a lot of questions I have about that line of thinking.
And I also don't believe that we evolved from animals because even though we seem so closely related, that explanation just doesn't explain why humans are so distinctly different, why we seem to have this "soul". How could that have just popped up in the evolution chain?
Basically neither seem believable to me, I believe it's impossible to know for sure, and for the most part I'm okay with not knowing. :]

I believe in God without him in my life my mom would have never been cured from depression. I saw her with my own eyes almost commit suicide now you tell me.when she turned to God who helped release her from her personal demons. I've lived a hard life but through god and jesus christ I have overcome many of my own struggles. I encourage you to really examine your life and seek truth because there is a god out there who loves us and calls us.

I definitely believe in evolution, there's no real proof of creationism except for the bible, which wasn't even meant to be taken literally (for instance, women can't wear jewelry.yes, I saw it in there).

Voted C.

I don't believe in evolution.

I believe in a mixture of both.

I voted C because I am of Pagan faith studying in a science field. My beliefs are a mixture of pagan folklore and evolution theory.

Definitely Faith.to be honest I don't like over the top religious people that try to persuade you what is right and that you are wrong, to me that's not what Christianity is all about. I think everyone has the right to believe what they want, there are SO many beliefs and theories out there, I think the basis of them all would have some truth to them. .I just know having faith in god has gotten me through a lot of things, I know he's helped me, and I know he's there. Living the way he wants, has made my life easier, its hard to do, but I think the underlying morals behind his ways are in our best interest. but even though I have been taught these things in my life as my family are Christian, I know god will lead me the way he wants and what he believes is best for me, I don't think it's necessary to be what other 'Christians' believe you should be. because when it comes down to it, we are all human. Who says what someone else believes is right, it's when people follow people that things become corrupt and wrong.You have to make up your own mind, what you think is right, an educated decision of course, but I think it's the underlying morals that count. faith gives you hope through the hard times, knowing there's someone else out there promising you that things will get better and will actually get you there. ultimately it's a beautiful thing knowing that there's a 'heaven' and you get to live eternally in a place that's not corrupt.

What an interesting question. being in science and rather agnostic myself I totally see where you're coming from. But if you think about about it, science does offer a pretty bleak view of life, we're born we die, just as everything else in the universe will - that's pretty much all there is, nothing else after. Understandably many people are not going to like that view and want to hope and believe that there is something else, something omniscient to ease the sense of insecurity and pointlessness that science can create.
Wow, the amount of debating/arguments you can get out of this topic is absolutely amazing hey. Anyway, that's just my thinking.

I was raised Catholic and went to a Catholic school for nine years, and I think I believed in everything I was taught then, but now I consider myself agnostic. I think a person named Jesus existed, but that's all I'm sure about. I never believed in Hell or the devil; if man was given free-will, we choose to do wrong, the devil is just an excuse. I think the bible is just a book, and I could write a book, so it's just not that spectacular to me. I do believe in angels, but that came after my grandfather died when I was already agnostic, so I don't consider it a religious thing for me.

I respect the beliefs of others (my entire family is still Catholic after all), and sometimes I do believe in God, but religion isn't a big part of my life, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Explain why the Bible has never been proven wrong. How things in the book Revelation has been proven factual over and over again. Study both, you can't just study one and assume the other one is wrong. Look at nature. How is there no creator? Think it over.

Genesis 1- 3. Everything starts and ends with God. He is more real than all of us. But even at this very moment there are millions of new stars, even galaxy's being birthed. THere still are constant changes happening all the time. And this huge GOd, the creator of all loves me more than Himself, that he would of offered His son to die for me. It blows my mind.

Science is science! Faith is faith! The two do not combine very well although a lot of people make them combine! There are so many things in this world we haven't discovered yet and so many things involve with it - it is religion and faith. I can't say I believe in evolution because all evolution is - is a stupid big bang theory - how the heck can you say that some zones and rocks have come together and created space that just sounds absurd. And that we evolved from monkeys - yes we are definitely distinctly related to them somehow but sorry I don't look like a monkey (although they are very cute) and I do want one but besides the point, evolution to me does not exist.

As for creationism yea that is just all either made up or spoken by the church for people to believe in something, anything - we really don't know which religion is true - I mean every religion is based on another or stolen from another to clarify the meaning behind the story of how the earth really came to be and what people don't realize is that the first religion ever to exist was Judaism - I mean that religion is over 4, 000 years old and people criticize it. Christianity - well that should be understandable how old it is - 2008 years old as for Islam younger than both of these, other religions such Buddhism and Hinduism and such and such are all created for people to reach some kind of enlightenment or something else to believe in. Each criticizes the next and each says the other one is full of bull (excuse the term).

As far as I go in believing in something it would have to be god - yea I know I just all religions are bull (excuse the term) but I didn't say I believe in religions, I only believe in god! I mean these are my opinions others may have different ones but what can I do - we all believe in what we think is right, in what we think we studied is the true existence of evidence of how the earth really came to be. But we'll find out the truth only when we die that I know for sure!

Yeah, I'm definitely a believer in evolution. Honestly, I'm not sure how people can continue to deny it either. (If you find it relevant, I'm studying primeatology). But I'm also Catholic. See, the way I see it, belief in evolution does not have to preclude belief in God. Some people, the majority of my (Baptist) family included, believe that the earth and everything on it was created in seven days. I've given up trying to convince them that it's possible to believe otherwise and not be an atheist.

But really, I think that while God could have just said "Let there be stuff" and made the world (heck, He wouldn't have even had to take seven MINUTES if He didn't want to), isn't it so much COOLER that He took billions of years to shape the world into what it is today? And to think that He's not done, that He's still working through the process through which the world came to be as it is? A God that is always working through evolution to shape the world around us? A God that doesn't try to make us discard scientific evidence in order to believe in Him? Now that's a powerful God, a God that I would love to devote my life to! And that's the kind of God I believe really exists.

I vote creationism. I don't really understand the big bang theory. I was always taught that two giant rock-like masses smashed into one another, and kablamo, earth and such formed.but where did those rocky masses come from if that is the case?

idk bro depends on yourself you being agnostic don't believe in God so you can't really get it you know.. it might be stupid for rational people but I personally think there is a God I don't know things are too perfect expecially in someones life and that's one of my main reasons in believing in God

god is for weak people strong people know the only thing you should believe in is yourself

first off Id like to say I have tried my hand at church (dad teaches sundayschool and mom is a priest yes she can be a priest in the episciplechurch)

I only say this because in my eyes most religous people have no reason to believe in a god other than the fact that they're told to and then percieve things that happen by chance to be work of god whether it be big or small things like a deeply religous friend told me how he was going to take this one route but instead he "felt" he shouldnt and then there was a car pile up and he says god subconsciously warned him...

I think old time religous leaders deserve to be on the same list as Hitler and Stalin I mean what's so different they got people to kill people so their ideas would be excepted what's so different Hitler declared war on the world and enforced it with killings stalin had millions killed The church has claimed just as many lives if not more than them
If you don't believe me than study some history please besides the crusades in which one of them I forget which they came across a village and killed all the inhabitants and then ate them fun huh

"When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy." that's just one of my favorite quotes from what my religous background has taught me sounds like a merciful god now huh

You can't disprove fairies
You can't disprove witches
but they can't be real right
You can't disprove god either
but so many people know its/he's real
but how ask a religous person if you want to p*ss them off then you get to hear their memorized sunday school lesson

Just because we can't explain all of evolution doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that a greater being created everything who knows maybe we're just an experiment from a far older and knowledgable alien specie

I along with most scientisit believe that it is impossible to have something come from nothing. Evolution has traces that date back as far as religion began and even further...no offense to any religious people out there who believe in "Creation" bu it just can't be true...

I don't believe in evolution nor do I need to. It is a verifiable fact that be easily shown to anyone who is willing to look at the research in any one of a dozen different scientific fields.

People believe in creation because they want to believe they are special and live forever. These things are not remotely related. When the question of creation comes up, simply reframe it as "do these people have the right to inflict their religious beliefs on other people's children?". If the answer is "no", the issue is settled.

Think of it this way if you don't believe in God your going to hell but wait if you don't believe in any other cultures God your going to hell. How can you go to Heaven or Hell if your going to go to hell either way you look at it. What about the Indians, the Romans, the Greeks, they had many many Gods so what happened to them, did they go to hell if so how? They believed in many Gods not just one, so if they thought there were many Gods then how were they wrong, and why would they go to hell? What about the cavemen where are they, did they even have a religion if not then if they didn't know any religion existed then how are they wrong and are they supposed to be in hell?

I have wondered this for a while and the only logical explanation of where we came from is from primates. If a wild animal dies there's no heaven or hell for them, how could there be, all they are programed to do is survive and keep the species alive, uh oh wait a minute now, what does that sound like kind of like us right, we get jobs to feed ourselves to make money, we reproduce to keep our family going, and to keep the human race going. So if you think about it early man was just like a wild animal, were they not? Well they died out and evolution took place and it will still continue to take place long after we are gone.

So I don't know it seems that evolution makes more sense but then again what if there is a superior being if anyone really knew the answer the debate between evolution and religion would be solved.

I believe in God and I believe He created the world. Exactly how He created the world, I have no idea. However, as a scientist as well, I also feel quite confident that evolution does in fact occur, but evolutionary theory fails to suffiently explain the origins of life, or the diversity of species for me. It still has major gaps, so to speak. So micro-evolution is proven. Macro-evolution is still in the theory stages in my opinion. I do not believe in literal creationism by any means though. I see the creationist story in the Bible as more of an allegory.

Evolution is a scientific fact, we see it every day.

Whether or not humans evolved from a common ancestor to a chimpanzee, is an entirely different story.

Evolution is constantly misconstrued as being 'humans evolve from apes', but it just isn't true. The theory of evolution states "change over time".

Lol someone saying "science theories have been proven wrong, but God hasn't.".

HAHA

Don't people know how science work !?!?! What the hell is the problem. If theories would never be proved wrong we would be living on flat planet that sun goes around.

THEORIES MUST BE THE KIND THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO PROVE THEM WRONG !

If theory can't theoretically be proved wrong, it is not a theory. This is what these "ID" people don't understand. Well one of the things they don't understand. "Falsifiability" "Scientific Method" the way science works. Well is it stupidity or bad education, I think a mix of those.

"Look at the eye, in its perfection"
Many need classes
"Look at jaw how perfect it is"
This wisdom-tooth is killing me.
"Look at the cell, how perfect it is"
Well this one is on rampage, I think it is cancer.
"Look at the brain, its complexity its perfection"
And how damn many things can go wrong up there.

I would fire that designer.

And best of all "Look at banana how perfectly it fits in human hand"

Yes I'm a rant machine.

I understand you don't believe what I believe, but in this case, I urge you to leave room for error.
Just as these scientist have left themselves room for error.

Don't go so far to prove wrong, or so far in disbelieve, that you can't turn back, or change your ideaology.

I do believe that God has created all.
Thats my faith & spirit.

My flesh wants to listen to the reason of the world.
The world is not getting better, so why would I place my believe with them.
They have no clue to the after life.
They think they have a clue to the beginning, but that's all theory.
They have nothing.

Nothing.
Nothing.

Theory, means they are not sure, but have an idea.
You know how often theories are proven wrong?

I say, "Get the Facts befor you Act".



Sincerely,
A Loving Black Man

*sigh* I'm amazed at how many times I (and others) have to explain this.

Evolution and creationism are NOT in ANY WAY related. You can believe in evolution and creationism. Evolution is NOT the big bang! Come on people. Not that hard. Furthermore, humans did NOT come from apes as we know them. No one of intellect will ever say they have. You know who DOES? Ignorant Christians. Apes and humans are related in that they both descended from a common ancestor, and their DNA is similar, not because we're the great-great-greatx1000 grandchild of a Baboon.

Evolution essentially says that species change (adapt, evolve) over time to fit their conditions in order to survive. Social Darwinism is NOT evolution. It is people using Darwin's theory of evolution (biology) to define social interactions (sociology). I for one am tired of religion and science being compared -- yes, they're both similar in that they are searching for truth, but religion requires FAITH while science encourages research & discovery. Evolution is not a religion, you cannot 'believe' in it. It, like science itself, is constantly evolving (ehehe) as we learn new things.

Evolution is fact. The only thing up for debate is what evolved from what, what causes specific changes or prevents changes from happening at all, what speeds/slows down the process, etc. Death and birth are both accepted as fact. Genetic mutation is accepted as fact. Evolution is simple genetic mutation occurring over many generations in response to certain environmental factors. Much of the anti-evolution spasms going on are because of zealots who refuse to educate themselves.

For example, creationism is NOT Christianity. However, the Christians have hijacked the title to make you think that it is. Creationism is simply the belief that we were created - by what or whom is not specified. That varies from person to person. According to the Christian doctrine, Evolution isn't possible because God created man at a certain time, a time when man already existed according to modern science. So, to those of you who say that there MUST be a god -- you may be right. No scientist will refute that. He'll certainly say there is no proof either way, but he will only disagree with you when you try to say the Abrahamic god created us from nothing a few thousand years ago.

In a twist of irony, even though the creationists hate evolution for reasons that aren't even valid, the OTHER idea they hate could actually fit in with their theory. The 'Big Bang' theory (which I don't necessarily think is valid) COULD just be the means by which the god of the creationist's made the universe. But try convincing them of that.

In conclusion, evolution is not the big bang. You cannot 'believe' in evolution. Creationism is not Christianity. Creationism does not refute evolution, and evolution does not refute creationism. Neither Darwin nor the theory of evolution says that we descended from apes. We are, however, primates. Just like we're mammals.

i am a very scientific guy but I strongly believe in creation. there is a GOD put there that did create this world. evolution didn't just happen on its own. someone "GOD" had to get things done.

couldn't agree more with you. I have done a marine biology degree and am now studying my master. I don't understand how anyone can believe in creationism when it is so apparent with Darwinian theory.

Just because you picked evolution doesn't mean that you don't believe in God or the story of Adam and Eve etc. In fact there is a study of evolution that deals with animals and their adaptations over the several million of years. I mean it's pretty common sense that all species were not like they are today so they had to evolve. Proof? Look at the fossils. Pretty rock solid to me.

you guys might of came from monkeys but not me.
Creationism all the way

What does this question have to do with dating and relationships?

you're thinking in the box where there is everything?u never looked outa this box(the universe you live in)if one could what would you see?nah no one can guess but the rules of life and things could be different,in our universe everything should be made by hands in order to exist,maybe out of our box everything just exists some other way.

Science it what brings the world forward, religion is what's holding it back.

And being a man of science, I am an atheist, as God cannot be proven. So the basic methodology of science does not allow "God".

So what do I mean when I say "religion is holding the world back"? A very good example would be stem cell research. This WILL eventually be the standard, and the only reason its use is still limited is because of religious concerns. This, in my eyes, is foolish, and thousands of lives could probably have been saved.

Most people are religious because they've been told about God from a stage in life when they're not able to make up their own opinion. Except for former alcoholics and drug abusers, very few people become christian when they're adults.

I am, of course, ready to stand up for my points of view and ready for any discussion ;)

I really liked these sites. Lots of good solid arguments related to your question and a healthy dose of critical thinking:

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I choose B.
I think both have similar backings in that "E" is determined by humans, and "C" is created by humans.
It is taught that the people in "C" were lead by GOD to write what they wrote.
The bible is a book of Testimonies, where people give you information about what is going on in that time.
I take the people from the bibles word over the scientist of today because they actually have the best chance at being correct.
Scientist can come up with stats and try to back them with today's reason, but the truth is that they will never know.
The bible can be seen as history book.
I don't think you can use some of the times it presents, but that's because they had a different time telling system.
There are people even today that don't run on our yearly calendar.
I know in the end that you have your own decision to make about what you believe.


You say you believe in God, but not the bible.
That is impossible. There is no GOD without the bible.
Not saying he wouldn't exist, but rather you would not know about him unless he revealed himself to you. That's why I believe he revealed himself to the people of that time.
They had nothing to know he existed.


If evolution is the way we entered, then why does it stop now?
Where are those Apes that should be evolving?
When does E stop?

I do think its possible that GOD has just thought of everything.
He created the universe for a reason.
He made the stars so far away for a reason.
I sincerely hope he shows a sign to make us all believe.
God controls this show!



Sincerely,
A Loving Black Man

I believe in a power higher then myself.
I was a fall down drunk b4 and nothing and I mean
nothing would relive me from my alcoholism.

In my mind I would laugh at the thought of God or
a higher power. The best advice I ever got from someone
was to pretend to believe in one ( Higher power) if I did not.
I took that advice and have been sober for 4 years now.
Also who is not to say Evolution was not part of
God's plan.
I found out in 4 years that it's also ok for me not to understand
God's plan or why.

first off there's a lot of people on here that need to read the book 7 ideas that shook the universe. secondly people will believe in whatever they want to believe in as long as it gives them comfort and helps them cope with the things that the human brain cannot comprehend. I personally don't believe in religion for the simple fact that too many wars/ battles as you may call it have stemmed over it. and if I was religious in any way id be a taoist.

Can't we just all get along.? lol

Why don't you have an option for agnostic? I don't wholeheartedly believe in anything, as I think anything is possible.

You're Agnostic and you're unable to see how people can believe in creationism? Isn't the point of Agnosticism supposed to be that you accept that anyone of them could be the answer and you think it's just too big of an answer to waste our time fighting wars over? Are you sure you're not just atheist? Or maybe I'm in the wrong religion. Hell if I think the way I do, do I even need a religion to place me in a demographic from which people can judge me without even knowing me?

I only believe in God as our Creator even though I struggle with certain aspects of Christianity or any religion for that matter I guess I always want to ask why? And am always in need of an answer that seems logical to me but even for a time in my life when I left our church I still felt like I had to act morally like a Christian (still choose not to have sex because I felt as though it's wrong before marriage.

I am agnostic also and from a scientific perspective I have found that humans choose to use faith as an explanation for those things that cannot be explained. However, on a different level when thinking about our social conditioning it seems that some people just need faith, sometimes people just need something that provides comfort and the thought of some deity of everlasting love and compassion is very comforting, especially in strenuous situations.

To be honest, I hate creationism, too many people's faith revolves around the bible an ancient storybook that may not even be translated right. I mean most people don't understand that this book wasn't even originally written in english and really there is no way of a completely accurate translation and yet treat what is written as gospel (pun intended). They assume that if the bible were wrong their faith is meaningless, and what's ironic is that this is pretty much the same mentality as a scientist.there has to be some kind of proof of existence. It doesn't even begin to cross their mind that maybe God (if one exists) doesn't have a divine plan, or that evolution is part of the divine plan. Maybe God intended for evolution to occur.

Lol not quite the website to ask this question. But first you need to look at a few things. First, you need to realize that we all have the same evidence. It's how you interpret the evidence and the bias that you have while looking at it that makes the evidence point a certain way.

Secondly is that people claim science is science and faith is faith. Although this sounds accurate, it's not. Much of science is theories that have been accepted as true because there has been nothing that has disproven the theory. But science is ALWAYS changing. We are always coming up with new developments, new discoveries that are changing old theories and making them obsolete. So saying that science is science and faith is faith is not accurate.

Third, your statement that the Bible is vague is very inaccurate. If you actually read the Bible, you would see names of people, rules, years of rulers, names of cities. The Bible is actually very specific. Not only has it never been proven wrong, archaelogy has proven that it is very accurate. Cities of the Bible have been dug up as well as evidence of the names of people and rulers in the Bible. There are many verses in the Bible that made statements about the world that weren't discoverd by "science" until thousands of years later.

It takes as much faith to believe in evolution if not more faith. How come Darwin's theory of evolution hasn't been proven by fossils? He even said that by now, we should have all this evidence that proves we got here by evolution. And yet we don't. It's just that atheists are just as closed minded as Christians are.

And finally, it's not science vs. the Bible. There are many people that want you to believe that is what it's really about. And it's not at all. You don't have to pick science OR the Bible. Science and the Bible don't contradict. Science just shows what the Bible has been saying all along.

I believe in intelligent design.

I believe there is a "God" who created all the laws of the universe. Every driving force, matter, energy, etc are has an origin. And that origin has no beginning nor end; it's not finite; it's my idea of God. So do I believe in creation? Absolutely not. God never placed human beings on this planet over a period of a day. God set evolution in play for us to have exist naturally.
So my diagram is something like this: God --> natural forces/laws --> evolution --> us

i am pro faith:

yet,"TRUST GOD AND LOCK YOU CAR."

Please explain the difference between evolution and creationism. Oh and what you mean by other.

I don't believe in the evolution that we came from monkeys, but in simple terms---in the evolution that led us to become better human beings, etc. Religion has always been corrupted by greedy leaders, and its been a tool used to keep humanity controlled. I also don't believe in creationism as that is just another fairy tale trying to explain from a spiritual level how creation came to be. Is insane that people take it literally. By the way, evolution theory loses all credibility when you start looking at the link between eugenics and evolution.of course, they don't teach that in school cause not a good selling point for the evolutionists. And if you haven't figured that out, then you might as well join a religious cult.