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Gay Marriage: Legal or Illegal?

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jbone79 (Age:25 to 29)     When: 5 months ago
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Greetings again everyone!
I would like your thoughts on the topic of gay marriage.

Should gay couples have the right to be lawfully married?

I personally take no issue with gay marriage. My personal opinion is that gay marriage embraces the concept of freedom that America was founded upon.

I also think it speaks volumes about America's changing social structure. This change I view as positive. It embraces peace, freedom, love and tolerance. It also helps to develop continuing multicultural diversity within our nation in a positive manner.

What are your thoughts on this issue?

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Gay marriage should be legal everywhere right now!

Gay marriage should never be legal in any form!

Gay marriages should be allowed, but with certain amendments (tax and legal etc.)
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HaggardDiva
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HaggardDiva (Age:25 to 29)      When: 5 months ago
Oh wow, I could go on for days about this. Let's just try to get it out quick. I do think that gay marriage should be legalized and with all the same benefits and downfalls of straight marriage. Nothing should differ legally.

Marriage is about law. And law is suppose to be religion free. A school teacher got fired from his job for having a Bible on his desk. The pledge of allegiance, by law, had to take "under god" out of it, these examples show how strict the law is against bringing religion into it. However, the only argument people seem to be able to come up with for being against it is their religion. Does that make any sense? We are banning something that is SO important to so many people because of religion, when the law is suppose to have nothing to do with religion, it's suppose to be about rights. And we are taking away the rights of all those people because they were born gay.

Now for the "it's in the Bible," comment that people love to throw around. The Bible was written and re-written and translated into other languages countless times, starting YEARS before anyone alive could even ask their oldest relatives about. And it was a long ass time before it even started getting written down that most of the events of it even happened. Now here are several different debates out on the Bible, for one, they believe there is a lost section of it, a section that was never put it, either because the "editors didn't want it, or because it was just forgotten, so who knows what may have been in that section. Also, the stories that were told could have very easily have been misinterpreted when written down (like did you ever play telephone as a kid? By the time it got back to you it wasn't at all what you said to start with). And then there are believers that the "editors" of the Bible, the ones that finally wrote it down, wrote it down and made it into what they believed so that when people read it they would take on their beliefs without question.

Now, to my final point, since I'm already getting way longer than I intended. If god was SO against gay people, and God creates everything on earth.Do you see where I'm going? Why in the world would he make people gay? And don't try to say that they choose to be gay. At some point in their lives they may have to choose to accept it and/or to come out with it. But they, just like us, did not choose it, they can't help that they are attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite sex. Almost all of my gay friends tried so hard to be straight so that they were "normal." I thank god that most of them have finally just admitted it, because they are finally happy with themselves, even though they have to deal with ignorant people teasing them at times, they are finally trully happy.

Sorry that was WAY longer than I meant it to be.
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AmanderBananer I completely agree with you. - 5 months ago
Question Asker Wow! this is a great response. all I can say is, lol will you marry me? - 5 months ago
Shlei3 I agree as well! - 5 months ago

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newarkstar
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newarkstar (Age:25 to 29)      When: 3 months ago
OK, so I have not read EVERYONE'S responses, but I skimmed a few.

These are my thoughts on Gay Marriage.

#1: I do not support Gay Marriage in general because of my personal religious beliefs. I am a Muslim, and because of that, I try to abide by all 3 holy books, the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur'an.

All three monotheistic religions do not support gay relations. I'm sure you guys know the story of King Lot. You guys can use that as a reference.

#2: Let me say, contrary to my religious beliefs, I do not have a problem with gay people. Just the act itself.

So that brings me to my real point, I think that the U.S. government needs to change it's outlook on marriage itself.

The U.S. was founded by Europeans who wanted to separate church and state. If marriage comes from an institution of religion, then I do not think the government should have any authority on who marries who. With that said, I do believe any person should have the right to marry who they would like with the other person's clean consent. I do also believe they should be given all the benefits that married couple get, such as tax breaks and hospital rights, and etc.

I do think that the U.S. should change the marriage liscence into Life Partner liscence as well.

Let me give you another example. Say you are not gay and you live in the same house with your best friend. All of your family is dead. All of her family is dead. You guys pay a mortgage together. You get sick and she takes care of you. You want her to be able to make decisions for you, and give her all your money because she was there for you and she deserves it.

What about then?

So, I believe that the U.S. should let religious institutions ordain marriage, so that if someone wants to be married to someone they can go to their own place and get that done. It's just a verbal contract anyway with witnesses.

Gay people should have rights too.
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Abu-Shreek I completely agree with you,sis. - A month ago

AmanderBananer
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AmanderBananer (Age:Under 18)      When: 4 months ago
I found a qoute.

Galations 3:28 says "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

DISCUSS.
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hartjo80 I think that really does away with the right wing argument that "marriage is a union between a man and a woman" if there is neither.... :) good quote! - 3 months ago
Answerer Thank you =] - 3 months ago

 
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Anonymous User (Age:Under 18)      When: 5 months ago
Gay marriage should not be allowed because 76% of gay people ends up committing suicide. So it shouldn't happen at all.
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humble State your source. Where did you read, hear, see that 76% of gay people commit suicide? It sure sounds (and even smells) like a body part of yours.. Geographically the highest rate of Suicide is in Sweden, and professionally it is among dentists. What is your suggestion for those then? Not live in Sweden and don't become dentists? - 5 months ago
AmanderBananer First off, your percentage is wrong. Second, why do you think they commit suicide? Because of people who torment them and take away their rights as human beings. That's why. And not letting them get married is taking away their rights. Maybe if you started treating them like actual people and start understanding the hard life they have to live by not being accepted by people like you, maybe there would be less suicides among the gay community. Have you ever thought of that instead? - 5 months ago
Answerer Haha. I just wanted to get your attentions and I did get it. My percentage is wrong I know it was suppose to be 100% but I was kind enough to write 76%. - 5 months ago
Question Asker I wouldn't take too much offense to this person. This is a coward that hides behind being anonymous, just like most racists and hate mongers. If you feel so strongly about this, then don't stay anon. what a bitch move on your part. - 5 months ago

downtowngirl
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downtowngirl (Age:18 to 24)      When: 5 months ago
First off, so many people have made great arguments and point of views. I see a lot of people defending their beliefs with the bible. This is acceptable and fair, but when you feel like preaching please refer back to Romans 15:1 "Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you."
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AmanderBananer I agree with your quote. - 5 months ago
SexGod1 No offense, but I looked up Romans 15:1, and it says, "We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves." Does this mean the same thing? - 5 months ago
Answerer It has the same idead but read further down, it's almost at the very end. - 5 months ago
alteran87 Its romans 15:7, not 15:1.... write chapter wrong verse - 5 months ago
Answerer Thank you for the correction, I didn't realize I mistyped. - 5 months ago

lost-angel
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lost-angel (Age:25 to 29)      When: 5 months ago
Ok. This is for AmanderBananer.
When a couple gets married, they get tax reduction, health insurance benefits, pension - they receive the spouse's pension when they die, pay increase (for some jobs), and many many more.
My argument isn't about gay people being together, and living a normal married life.
I'm arguing on the fact that some people who aren't really gay, could take advantage of this law. Am I wrong?
Have you seen the movie "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry"?
So don't misinterpret what I'm really trying to say here
I know it would be unfair to gay couples who truly want to be married, for love, and not for legal benefit purposes.
Also, marriage, is now slowly becoming so meaningless, it seems. People getting married numerous times, in a lifetime. Marrying for money. Marrying for fame. Etc. And now same sexes getting married. A lot of people don't seem to see the importance of marriage, and the true meaning anymore.
Oh and one last thing. Have you ever thought of how it would affect the children? If they were to have one? Because I do assume the reason gay people want to marry is mainly to have a child? No? Because that is mainly the reason why a man and woman get married. To reproduce. But anyways, how will these kids be treated in school? From friends? From people? It will definitely affect their life, and the way they see life, and marriage.

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Shlei3 What? The main reason men and women get married is to reproduce? Um...no. Of course having gay parents will impact them. But it's becoming more and more acceptable. Not only that but if you really want to get down to it heterosexual married couples have some huge issues of their own. The main reason people get married is because it's a union, a bond between two people who love each other. There are people who get married to get benefits...Have you seen Green Card? Hello!? Seriously. - 5 months ago
AmanderBananer Ok, I get the tax reduction thing...but it can be really hard to find a spouse when you're gay. I honestly don't think gay people would 'take advantage' of marriage like straight couples could. And "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry" is not how real life works or what people do. Have you ever noticed, the people getting married for fame and money..are straight couples? And 'now same sex marriage"?That's rude to say.I have thought about the children,some of my thoughts are on a previous comment - 5 months ago
HaggardDiva I am truly sorry, but your ignorance is astonishing me. Do you really think that people don't do that in straight marriages? It is just as easy to fake a straight marriage as it is to fake a gay marriage. - 5 months ago
AmanderBananer Haggard is right.

And as easy at it could be to fqake a gay marriage.. I honestly don't see them faking marriages. - 5 months ago
Question Asker All the points here presented are valid arguments. I would like to ask, however, do any of you feel the single people who choose not to get married are being discriminated against because of their marital status? - 5 months ago
AmanderBananer I don't really understand your question. But from what I understand is 'are gays discriminated for being single". And Yes, I do believe they can be.Families who don't accept them can easily play the card of "you'll never get married or have a successful marriage". So they can be discriminated in that way. "You'll never be happily married' and such.

Does that answer your question? - 5 months ago
Answerer Wow I'm outnumbered jbone.Just as I expected though.
Just to clarify for anyone I offended.I am not against gay people at all.Just don't like people hu lie, and abuse legal benefits, jus bec they cud.Im not refering to gay ppl.im saying ANYONE hu wud. You guys are right, straight couples do it.Legalizing this law will just increase that offense.
We all have our own opinions,and I respect every1 elses,even if I don't agree. This was def a fun debate. And this will be my last defense on this topic. :) - 5 months ago
AmanderBananer Legalizing gay marriage would just make people happy. It's hard enough for gay individuals to find a partner. They aren't going to get married for the hell of it. - 5 months ago
downtowngirl It's hard to use this argument because so far the only people allowed to marry are straight people and they are the ones with MULTIPLE marriages...Correct? Also as far as receiving benefits each state has their own laws overseeing these kind of situations. In california where I live, gays who are in long term relationships get most all benefits that a heterosexual couple gets. The only benefit that they lack are at a federal level. This argument will only take you in circles. - 5 months ago
hartjo80 Marriage is a 3rd party(business) contract between 2 individuals and the state(3rd party). why not let two men be finanical partners if they want - 3 months ago

lost-angel
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lost-angel (Age:25 to 29)      When: 5 months ago
Ok, don't hate me.
I don't agree with gay marriage.
I have absolutely no problem with gay people. I just don't agree that they should get the same rights.
Do you know how many people can take advantage of that? its not fair.
Im talking about people who would marry their friend, just for the benefits they get from it. seriously, its so unfair.
if you saw the gay couples that recently married, they are mostly old people, who will be receiving pension, etc. soon. need I say more?
Gay people have the right to be together, be happy, live together, adopt a baby together.
i believe that same sex marriages is just another beginning of fraud, and abuse.
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AmanderBananer Why shouldnt they have the same rights?They are humans just like everyone else.
People wouldn't get married for the hell of it. That's seriously ridiculous.They get no benefits from being married to a friend except divorce.Which is not happy.And does it matter what age that people get married at?They love each other and that's what matters. Straight and gay couples alike who are older get pension.Does it matter now?Marring gay isn't fraud. It's love.the only abuse is you taking away their rights. - 5 months ago

Nut-Meg1453
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Nut-Meg1453 (Age:18 to 24)      When: 5 months ago
Gays should get all rights that the married couples. If ask me I think its really retard that gays can't get married. They still people they just trying express themselves.
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hazeleyes91
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hazeleyes91 (Age:Under 18)      When: 5 months ago
i don't think it should be legal because I'm a christian and the bible says it is wrong. marriage is for a man and a woman. God made adam and eve not adam and steve.
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Question Asker I can see your point however, I have to ask you. Would you consider religious views that are dictating a way of life to others outside of that religion to be a little selfish? My example, I like pork chops, but I don't have the right to make practitioners of Islam eat pepperoni pizza. I hope that makes sense. We should love others for who they are. I know that idea of love is a part of your religion. It's the followers interpretation that allow that idea's manipulation. good stuff!