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Relationship issue - In love but ex-boyfriend still in picture?

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Anonymous User (Age:18 to 24)     When: 18 days ago
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Well, in February of this past year my friend who introduced us went away for a few weeks and this left the girl who I am involved with and I alone and we ended up talking a lot. We ended up going to the Junior prom together (after her and her boyfriend of 2+ years had broken up about a month earlier) and about a week later we revealed to each other our intimate feelings for each other. We dated for about a week but she admitted that I was kinda a rebound and she didn't want to hurt me by prolonging it. We spent the next few months (June to September) just talking as friends a lot and honestly we can both say that we are the best friend either of us has ever had. We can tell each other anything and we really do talk everyday. Well, the ex-boyfriend has come back into the picture in September but the problem is..her and I have a conversation during their relationship and she tells me she has had strong feelings for me even after we broke up after our one week "relationship". Well, she ends up breaking up with him and we secretly dated for about a month or so..then we ended it because neither of us could deal with being a secret. After this happened there was about a week buffer zone..we got together and hooked up. It wasn't until the second time around that we started to be sexually active (just foreplay, not intercourse) but we both do want to eventually have intercourse. She told me she loves me and I do love her. The problem is she still loves the ex-boyfriend. She wants us both to be a part of her life and loves both of us but she's been with him for 3 years and quite simply he can't be a part of her life unless they're dating. He can't be her friend. The part that makes me angry about it is that he cheated on her multiple times and was abusive. He hurt her and she seems to look past that. He tells her that he's changed EVERY SINGLE TIME and every single time she believes him and even made excuses for him cheating on her and him being abusive saying whenever there was an incident it was an "accident"..So the big problem is he's cheated on her, he's abused her and he yells at her and tells her how she's such an awful person and when she tries to push him away from her life (which involved bringing me into her life) he comes crawling back to her (after having multiple sex partners) and tells her how he's changed and he loves her. He knows all of her emotional buttons to press to make her come back to him. This has been going on for over 3 years and keep in mind we're still in high school. This was her first real boyfriend so I can see why she stays attached because they've been together so long. I just don't know how to handle the situation. I love her and she loves me back..and whenever we're alone together we end up getting together and doing something because there's a physical attraction. But she loves him and it just seems like a never ending cycle. I love her as a best friend and a partner. Can't lose her from my life, I don't know what to do


Update: So I really don't know how to handle this and would like a few more opinions? It would be appreciated..    18 days ago

Update: So, what has happened is that I just decided to cut her out of my life completely for now. I haven't communicated with her since Wednesday after she told me to "leave her alone." It's time for me to take control of the situation on MY terms. Not her's.    7 days ago

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lulu08
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lulu08      When: 9 days ago
Its an addiction for some being in an abusive relationship and to continue to go back. It is not a great reflection on her part. I myself was that girl. Let me tell you that I dated some after that relationship and truly cared or some... BUT I continued to go back to my ex. Now 3 years later I have no feelings for him because of time. And it sounds like your not willing to give her that. YOU can't be her friend. What you need to do is hard. Let her go not permenley but for now let her run back to him and she will come back. And when she does tell her that until she lets go and completley moves on she is not healed nor open for a relationship no matter how much you want her to see how this guy is not right for her only she can be the one to TRULY see that. Give her that time if you EVER want to be with her. The End.
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rebeccaperez11
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rebeccaperez11      When: 9 days ago
my friend is in the exact same situation. he just tries to look past it. it's hard for him though.

your girlfriend may love her ex, but not be in love with him. three years together is a very long time. so of course they're gonna have some kind of connection. but you just gotta decide if your relationship is worth all this trouble.

i hope everything works out for you. :)
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C-L-E      When: 17 days ago
As a girl, I must say...if she wanted to be with you, she would make it happen. I had a friend who had a girl that did something very similar to him and all she wanted was someone to support her and tell her how wonderful she was so that she would feel better, and then she would go back to her boyfriend that was a big fat jerk and string my friend along. I am not saying that this is what that girl is doing, but it sure sounds like it. She needs someone who makes her feel wonderful and that she feels comfortable with as a friend, but she is in love with and stuck on this other guy. She probably does have feelings for you, but truly she may be just using you for someone to make her feel good about herself when she feels bad.
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Anonymous User      When: 18 days ago
Ugh, she needs to make a choice. Either she moves on and leaves her ex alone, or she goes back to him. She's holding onto something that isn't there. She needs to grow up and realize she can't have it both ways. She has to make a sacrifice somewhere. Life is full of tough choices and this is a crossroads for her where she's gonna have to pick a path.

As it's her first real boyfriend, I assume she hasn't been through the ex-boyfriend dance. The one where you feel like you need them in your life because they were such a huge part of it for so long, but after you make that choice you quickly discover everything is different and you would both be better off not talking as much (or at all).

So, my advice to you, and it's going to be difficult, is to take a step back. Clearly she needs to figure some things out in her head and heart for herself. If you date her now your relationship will be a rebound because she's not over her previous relationship. She can be over her ex, but she's still holding onto the relationship. I would suggest to continue being her friend, but don't let her lead you into a romantic stage until the ex is out of the picture for good. It might work out and it might not, but hopefully it will.

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Question Asker So should I just sort of not go out of my way to talk to her and just let her come to me? I'm not sure because she's such an important part of my life. I can talk to her about anything and everything even if we're not in a relationship per say. But she's pretty much back to hanging out with her ex boyfriend of 3 years. She says they're not dating and I believe her but the signs are telling. She also told me she doesn't want to be in a rel. with either of us which I also believe. Any more advice? - 17 days ago
Answerer What I mean is don't hook up with her. It's a tough situation because I'm sure you want her to continue to know you have feelings for her and that you haven't changed your mind, but you also shouldn't let her feel comfortable having 2 guys want her, y'know? If her ex and you both want her, then she's getting the best of both worlds and will continue because she can. - 17 days ago
Answerer Something also tells me that her ex isn't that into her anymore and just likes having someone, not particularly her. You could let this thing with her ex play out and wait until she finds out they're not going to work out. From my experience, people who are off and on again rarely work out in the end. Just be careful about being friend zoned. - 17 days ago
Question Asker Well, yesterday she assured me that she wasn't going to ever be getting back with him because he pretty much follows her like a lost puppy and stalk texts/calls her every hour and keeps tabs on her. She told him to back off because he's being way too clingy and she's sick of him saying sorry and that him saying sorry doesn't phase her anymore. I guess that would make the situation a little better. Thoughts? - 16 days ago
Answerer "Talk is cheap." You said she still hangs out with him and now she's telling you she tells him to back off? I would wait until the ex is completely out of the picture before making any moves tbh. You're just going to get yourself into a bad situation and someone's going to get hurt. Most likely you. Keep her around as a friend and talk and hang out, but don't cross that line until you're positive that she and her ex are completely over. Not because she says it, but how she acts with her actions. - 16 days ago
Question Asker Do you think it would be healthy to stay involved with her sexually? We talked about everything and she came to the conclusion that she is not ready to be in a relationship as she has been with this guy all throughout high school. It's our senior year and we're both probably going to be going on different paths eventually next fall. We do have a physical attraction to each other though and we have talked about sex. I feel like I could maintain that as long as we both agreed that's all it is. - 14 days ago
Answerer That really is a path for disaster. Sex causes attachments. If you want to make your life that much more difficult, then it's up to you. If you do the friends with benefits thing, forget about having a serious relationship with her. It's up to you and how much you like her. I got the impression that you thought you really connected. I would stand your ground & either she forgets her ex and chooses you, or she gets only friendship. If she's that attracted to you, she'll make the choice. - 14 days ago
Answerer Don't tell her that though XD Just do it. She's talking about FWB with you, she's getting over her ex. Give it a bit more time for her to come around. She's trying to replace that spot of her ex with you. You don't want that. You want her to want YOU. - 14 days ago
Question Asker I'm not sure what's happening at the moment. I have a feeling that I should just move on. I guess last night she went on a date with some new guy from another town. She wants to date somebody from somewhere else because her old boyfriend pretty much was attatched to her by the hip and she thinks that because it's been successful for her friends it will work for her because not seeing the person everyday adds something to the relationship. I don't know man I think I need to give it up. What do I do? - 13 days ago

Mysterious1
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Mysterious1      When: 18 days ago
That's tough. The thing is, she needs to move on from her ex. Until she does you are not going to be completely happy and together. That's a hard thing to deal with, and she's been with him a long time, so I'm sure that it's hard for her. But if he is treating her that way time after time, she should eventually man up and tell him she's done. In the meantime, just tell her that you're there for her anytime and that if there's anything you can do to help, that your there for her. Good luck!
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DrJones
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DrJones      When: 5 days ago
Sorry to sound negative, but I think your update was the best move. I wouldn't necessarily cut off all contact, but I wouldn't take anything she says seriously and I wouldn't date her.

She's too narcissistic to love either of you. Take a step back: you had a secret, on/off relationship. Does this ever lead to anything real? The entire relationship is based on lies, manipulation, and dishonesty. Her previous relationship with the abusive guy was too. Your relationship with her has been a continuous sort-of-cheating mess. The chance that she won't cheat on you is zero.

Or, to put the decision more simply:

She's decided she wants a drama-clusterf*** of deception with (at least) two guys involved. She simultaneously tells you both that she "has strong feelings for you." Is that what you want?

If so, by all means, keep seeing her. If not, there's no reason to hope she'll turn into a serious girlfriend, or even a straightforward friend with benefits. She won't.
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mshaker      When: 8 days ago
K number 1, ur dumb..

If she loved you more, he would be cut. He's not meaning the love she has for him is a lot more then what she will every have for you, no matter what you do, HE is her first true love. Sorry to break it to u, and ur some what a rebound if you guys do get together, she will always think of him, and always listen to him. Pick up and go, I know ur in denial, but sorry man. And if she does leave him for you, then she will most likely leave you for some1 else.
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goodtimes
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goodtimes      When: 14 days ago
Life only gets better when your moving forward, and she's not moving forward with you.

So if you continue standing there... your going to be playing the game for as long as she needs you.
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lled11      When: 17 days ago
I had the same problem with the girl I was seeing! Your story is basically like mine was. In my experience her ex of some years dumped her and then some months later I met her and we started dating but she had still had strong feelings for him. He would text her and she text him back and I would notice and all she would say is that their just friends now. Naive of me at that time I actually believed her.. So continuing on, we dated for about 3 months without any bumps in the road and all of a sudden out of nowhere she tells me she just wants to be friends. I'm was blown away.. I thought everything was going well. So being the champ I am. I said ok but why? She then told me she see me just as a friend and that maybe sometime later we could hook up again. So fast-forward a month or so of being "just friends" I leave to go on a 2 week trip. On that trip I go to check my Facebook. And to my amazement I see her and her ex in a picture. I get flustered and my mind jumps into conclusion. When I returned I called her to see if she wants to hang out sometime. She said she was busy and I said ok well maybe next time then. So then I ask her some other time busy again. Then I ask her one more time and she was busy this time also but in a later text she admits to why she was avoiding me. She was seeing her ex again! Same guy who cheated on her, abused her and later dumped her! I was angry so I told her off in a sort of good way. I let her know what's going to happen by getting back with him. So I stopped talking to her for couple of months and one day I text her to see how she's doing. I find out that he dumped her once again.. Not surprised and was secretly happy. So we slowly get back together and establish the friendship again and one day at a party were both drunk towards the end of the night things get weird she gets emotional so being the good Samaritan that I am I took care of her and we went outside to go for a little stroll. Bam she turns to me and kissed me and tells me all this about how I mean the world to her. I stop her right there in her tracks. I was confusssseed. Then the truth comes out, she starts balling her eye out over her ex. Grrr didn't like that but I helped her through it. And then we went back in she asked if I could sleep next to her, I was like sure.. Then things got a little hot in the bed but then I stopped it all. What was I doing? Am I just a rebound. So I left it at that and next morning I left bright and early. I was p*ssed and revealed at the same time I could finally let her go. Sorry to rant about my failed romance and I know this is about you! But it seems soooo similar to my story. Be careful, Be careful not to get attached to her. She still has feelings for her ex, she says she doesn't want to see him anymore but that's all a lie! Not to you but to herself! Be careful Be careful this is a very, very sticky and messy situation. Learn from my experience! I wish you luck though!
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AtomizerJr
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AtomizerJr      When: 18 days ago
I vote for cutting this girl from your life, and moving forward.

Whether she's confused, using you as a backup plan, or using you as an emotional tampon (it's a tacky term, but it makes the point better than anything else) this is simply not a woman who can give you the kind of focus and devotion that you deserve.

Her boyfriend's an abusive cheater. But she's repeatedly *decided* to take him back. It's not all his fault. Think about that fact. If someone wants to sell you a sack of horse manure, *you don't have to buy it.* She's bought it, repeatedly. That ought to be a huge red flag that this girl makes poor decisions. She *wants* to date an abusive cheater. Most commonly, women are like this because they're afraid of intimacy. By dividing her intimacy between two guys -- you who treat her well, and an abusive jerk -- she can avoid giving all of herself to one person.

You're correct: it's a never-ending cycle. And it might never end. In fact, you're part of the same cycle, because you've participated in this disgusting pattern a few times and haven't yet run screaming for the hills.

Love's not enough. I truly wish it was. But this girl probably won't change, at least not for a looooong time. Women like this often don't wake up until they're 40 years old. But some of 'em *never* wake up. So if you want her, you might have to settle for having her full attention in a few decades when she's got 3 kids by 2 different abusers and a nasty case of herpes.

Good luck.
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Question Asker Thanks man. I thought nobody would reply haha - 18 days ago
Answerer You're welcome.

I forgot this: Statistically, there's a *very strong* chance that she's also abusing him. The most common patter in abusive relationships is a man and woman who are abusing each other at equal rates -- this is 50 to 75% of abusive relationships, depending on the scientific study. - 18 days ago
Answerer There's a double-standard where people often believe things are abusive only when a man does 'em. So women sometimes think they can hit, push, shove and insult him without it being abusive -- but when he does the same to her, it's suddenly an outrageous offense.

If you want to blow your mind, read these summaries of hundreds of scientific studies from all over the world, which prove that women can be just as abusive as men.

http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm - 18 days ago
Answerer Good move on cutting her out and taking some control over your life. - 7 days ago
 
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