Girls, are guys taking us for granted?

unfortunately guys like that are out there; just avoid them, even if you are c-cup and wear makeup

Just like women that only like tall guys; you can lose weight but you can't gain height. At least women can change their bodies and men cannot

still though, it's not ok to be shallow, and this applies to both men and women.

So if you encounter a shallow jerk, well it's THEIR LOSS!
You'll find someone a little more worthy of your attention

Yep. But I see this same horny, sexual-based discrimination used against guys too. Most people I think grow out of it. See, girls can "enhance" appearance (well, makeup, jewelry, etc), so a guy might look at a "plain" girl and think, "Oh. Nothing special." but that same "plain" girl can then go and get "enhanced" by makeup and jewelry, and then become a "Ooooh she's kinda cute" girl.

With men, and from everything I've EVER heard women say in real-life, men are either attractive or not, and we don't really have any "enhancers". At least women can "enhance" themselves, us guys can hardly do anything to look better than we already do.

And as for what the that guy said, "Have to wear makeup and be AT LEAST a C cup", I think he's voicing a preference. He isn't saying he wants all women to, he's just saying he likes the ones who do and are. And yeah, he has pretty high standards, but again, there are women who treat men the same way.

If every girl stopped wearing makeup, then these "mega-high-standard-guys" would have to get over it, but, women keep wearing makeup, which keeps perpetuating the problem. (If you see it as a problem.) As long as people aren't being rude or discriminating against other types of people for how they dress or look, then I see no problem with makeup.

Anyways, I felt we needed another point of view on this.

Are you kidding. Ok for myself I would say C cup or smaller and the less makeup the better. I never liked makeup very much (except for special occasions), and seeing the photos of stars out there that are considered some of the hottest around without their makeup. That really made me more disgusted with makeup and like it even less. Let him have his fake women, because when the makeup melts off he is stuck with what he has got. HAHA

I'm sure it depends on the guy. Personally I've had girlfriends who don't wear makeup unless it's a formal occasion- it's fine with me and means more money on dates. On the other hand, a stereo-type has kind of been formed regarding makeup, which is why men expect it.

I agree.

Women care about looks too. I mean, nobody wants an unattractive partner, but men are wayy more shallow than women. Not that all men are shallow, but there are more shallow men and their shallowness is like 10x harder than a girl's shallowness lol.

So I'm like if you don't look like a Ken doll, don't expect me to look like a Barbie.

well, are they taking us for granted more than we're taking them for granted? I mean, how many times have you gone ga-ga over a guy just for how nice he was? of course, not all guys are like that, just like all girls aren't like that.

Yes guys do take us for granted I'll agree on that. I'm sure the guy in question was just saying that is the type of girl he is attracted to, he doesn't mean every girl must look like that. It's like when I say I prefer dark haired guys and wouldn't look at blondes, I don't expect blonde guys to dye their hair dark for me ;)

I don't see anything wrong with having physical preferences. I know I have some for guys. I don't think we consciously choose what we're attracted to.

i think that a lot of guys do take girls for granted. still there are many good guys that I know so its not all guys.

I think this scenario works both ways. While guys can preference their stereo-types on women with make-up and the C-cup chest, women expect men to be muscular and manly. But, that's not to say we don't have it hard. Yeah, its hard to reach up to the "male gender" expectations, but this is where you decide what YOU want. Either you follow through and make the guy happy for the sake of attracting the opposite sex or you make yourself happy. I wouldn't want to be around a guy that would force his demands on me, because if I don't want to wear make-up then that is something HE needs to accept. This is where the whole "personality match" and "finding the perfect-guy" factors come in.

I'd never change for a guy (or anyone else for that matter). The best thing you can do for a guy is to be yourself. So, really I don't care what guys expect from me because they don't know me, its about where I stand. I look at this as a "give-and-take" relationship. Accept me for me and you can expect the same from me.

Guys can expect what they want but that has nothing to do with you and how YOU want to present yourself to the world. Wear makeup if you want but don't do it because you think guys expect and demand it. I can tell you that the vast majority of guys could care less if a girl wears makeup at all. In fact, most prefer natural or barely noticeable makeup.

I could give a rat's ass if some guy expects me to have a certain body or exterior. I am who I am and if they don't like it, they can hit the road!

I just asked a question about makeup and most guys said that they like it natural or just a little not too much for special occasions. usually guys that like makeup and c cups are only guys who just wasn't sex, because they don't care about the feelings of the person they only care for them physically.

Girls do the same with guys as well. Unfortunately there are a lot of superficial people in this world. The good news is that not everyone thinks this way. Society doesn't help with our magazines that have perfect guys and perfect girls. TV shows are filled with perfect guys and girls. It's unrealistic and very unhealthy. There are people out there who care about much more important things such as personality, interests, goals.etc etc. Thank you for not being a superficial girl buying into all the hype of physical perfection.