When you've just met the girl that is.
Most Helpful Girl
Depends on the guy/girl and the chemistry they share.
A few examples of some of my first 3 dates with different guys:
Guy 1: hug but no kiss on the first date. Kiss on the 3rd date - turned out to be a player.
Guy 2: Holding hands, kiss on the first date - good chemistry, but turned out to not want a relationship.
Guy 3: Hugs but no kiss until about the 10th date. Turns out he was very inexperienced. Nice guy but it didn't last.
Guy 4: Really nice guy. Kiss on the 2nd date - didn't work out.
Guy 5: Hand-holding, kiss on the second date - progressed to a relationship.0
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Most Helpful Guy
How much touching feels right, and what is the girl comfortable with?
Call me old fashioned, but first date probably a hug and maybe a kiss
Second date probably a kiss and/or a little kissing, maybe hold hands if it feels right and we're walking somewhere
Third date a little kissing, a little more arm around the waist if we're walking somewhere...
Maybe I'm a slow poke when it comes to getting physically close to girls, part of it is not wanting to risk rushing it or go to fast for the girl, part of it is to leave a little excitement and anticipation for the next time we see each other. Of course it depends a lot on the vibe and signals that I'm getting from the girl, too, it's not anything set in stone.
I would find it a little difficult to jump head first into being physically intimate with a girl whom I've just recently met, but I have a feeling I'm in the minority here...0