Depends on the connection between the two people. Even tho logic is good to follow by, so are natural vibes. But honestly, most people nowadays just go places to hang out and don't really define it as a "date" unless its actually talked about
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When you have the talk about your relationship. If both of you say, "I love You".
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thats like asking how many licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop lol
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