My God I must be getting old... I'm trying to imagine what a less attractive pair of shoes might look like but so far I can only come up with those shoes, covered in dog mess. I used to have to wear something like that as part of my PE kit when I was at junior school, they're so hideously ugly, unfeminine and unsexy I can type no longer, I need to go wash out my eyes with bleach. Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!
I've been 100% converse all my life and wouldn't be caught dead in a pair of vans haha Vans have always seemed California stoner-ish or shoes for twelvies but so many people wear them and they are cheaper, I just find converse more versatile and comfortable 😊