I think many people forget that when they fall in love with someone it's not just about appearance all the time. You learn to also see the person inside, and not just their face. It's like when you look at them again you see their entire being all of a sudden. Initially looks are important yes and guys will admit this, same with girls but I do think after a while the attraction starts to get more intense and personal and less looks inclined. Guys have to realize that we will look different when we don't have make-up on. It's just a fact of life. Guys think mostly that girls will look exactly like they do with make-up or just a little bit different but unfortunately it's not how it is usually is. We have set the bars high. Take a look at the kind of girls most guys would think of as hot ... they do tend to wear make-up.. and a lot. Guys think it's "natural" but they don't realize it's actually not. They didn't wake up like that... no girl wakes up with perfectly airbrushed skin.
For a girl to be attractive with make up she has to be at least average without I reckon.
I'm goingnto say yes.
I like make up. I think it's cute that a girl would do the effort for me. I think it's like a man in a suit, maybe he looks plain without it, but if he is willing to go that extra mile all the time...
Looks fade away but the effort can make up for it. I know an elderly couple and she still wares make up and earrings and fancy clothes when they go out, I think it's the most romantic gesture a woman can make.
For the record, pretty with make up does not mean looking like a whore or a clown.
For dating material I need to be physically attracted to the guy. I think that's the first level. If he turns me on and I dream about being all over him, then there is the next level, which is personality. He can be extremely good looking but if he's dumb as hell, or boring or arrogant or simply unbearable, then I start seeing him ugly. If he's good looking and interesting, fun to be with, then I'm dating him.
He can be amazing but if I'm not attracted to him, I'm not interested in dating him.
HOWEVER, I've grown to be attracted to some guys in the past, that at first I wouldn't have considered as dating material. It was their personality that made me see them handsome. It's a bit more difficult this way, but it can happen. Let's also note that "good looking" varies for everybody and I have been known to have a regular taste in men... (not so handsome).
It's like 40% looks and 60% personality in my opinion...personality is more important than looks but I do feel there DEFINITELY needs to be a physical attraction otherwise I will not see him as more than a friend.