Seriously I don't get it. I celebrated my last birthday at a vegan restaurant but some of my friends refused to come because there wasn't meat. When I would offer them vegan food they refused and said it was because they're not vegan. One even said "hey I'm not trying to offer you meat am I"?
That logic makes no sense. Because something's vegan you won't eat it?
The standard American diet is 60% plat 40% animal so already 60% of your calories are coming from plants. Seriously would you not eat fruits, vegtables, potato chips or oreos because they're vegan? You don't offer me meat because my diet doesn't include meat but your diet already includes plants (vegan food) so why bring up that comparison. Can someone explain this to me?
I'm not afraid I just understand that you need an actual balanced diet to be truly deathly that means vegetables but also the dreaded and horribly meat vegans hate so much.
Also no lol vegetables are actually pretty poor in calories most of them barely give you 10-30 calories and only a small handful of them give you 80-120 calories and a even smaller amount giving you 200 or more.
The most calorie rich foods groups are starch aka bread, pasta, rice muffins etc most of which give you around 100-150 calories and some giving you over 200, and the smallest ones giving you around 49-70 calories.
Most meat on average gives you 100-150 calories with the smallest giving you around 60-80 calories and the largest being 200 to almost 300 calories.
Actually if I had to list all the food groups based on how calorie rich they were it would go in this order starting from richest to poorest in calories.
Meat Starch ( bread, pasta etc ) Fruit Dairy Vegetable
Also vegetables come in last in carbohydrates as well, here is the list of richest to poorest carbohydrate foods starting with richest and working downwards towards poorest.
Starch Fruit Dairy Meat Vegetables
And a list of the richest protein foods starting with richest in protein and working down to poor.
Meat Dairy Starch Fruit Vegetables
When it comes to the 4 main parts of food the calories, carbs, protein and fat vegetables barely beat out fruit.
Here is a list of the foods with the least fat, starting with the least fatty foods working our way down to richest.
Vegetables Fruit Starch Dairy Meats
I know this because nutrition was a big part of my studies and is a major part of my job
Also you don't help your case adding in potato chips and cookies since the whole point of the vegan diet is to live happier and "healthier" emphasis on "healthier" which you can't do stuffing your face full of fat, grease and sugar.
Also to answer your main question people can eat a all vegan meal but they quite frankly just don't want to. Even I would eat a vegan meal for a friends birthday because in moments like that friendship trumps food. That incident at the restaurant is not a matter meat vs vegetable it's a matter of will I be a good friend at this party and just suck it up over I'm to immature to eat just vegetables this once.
"Standard American Diet" Lol What if you're not American like moi? xD This whole carnivore/herbivore/omnivore ordeal is crazy. At the end of the day every human needs an equal amount of nutrients that is found in plants and meats. Arguing is ludacris. If you're afraid of vegan or meat alternatives, I'd call you stupid at the end of the day it's food. It's not like eating vegan food is going to auto make you a vegan or vice versa they are important aspects of life. .-. I don't think I explained it OP but I gave my opinion regardless, sorry.
I think it is the word "vegan" that makes them believe the meal will taste like crap. This idea was probably brought into people's heads because a lot of the meat-substitute stuff does kind of taste awful in my opinion. One of my personal experiences was due to a thing called "meatless Monday" at my university. Most of the various meats available around campus get switched out for vegeterian or vegan alternatives. I've tried them before and they looked decent but tasted quite bad... esp. vegeterian sausage.
This associates bad-food-taste with vegeterian/vegan from the lables, hence why one would be hesitant to try vegeterian/vegan marked food in the future.
I'm sure not all vegeterian/vegan food is bad tasting in the mouthes of meat eaters, but the bad experiences and such sure make one think twice. People tend to try and avoid food they think will taste awful 😅
That's at least my guess on the why with the situation.
They have no logical reason, they're just not feeling secure about themselves, they see eating meat as something that defines them and that is threatened if they ever eat a vegan meal. It's just like straight men who are afraid of going to a gay bar/hanging out with gay people. I eat meat occasionally (like the majority of the world population: a 40% meat diet for everyone would require more farmland than there is on the entire planet) but really don't mind going to a vegan restaurant with a friend. It's like you said: we all eat vegetables, grains and fruits so what's the problem with eating a whole mean consisting of those things once in a while?
nobobdy is affraid as much as you probably hope... it´s about not wanting to miss a taste. i mean there are people still smoking, directly harming themselves... what do you think people care about animals being harmed, if they are even willing to harm theirselves for convinience xD
I don't get it either. I may not be a vegetarian or vegan, but I've never had a problem with eating vegetarian or vegan products if there was no other option. I'll admit that its not as good as real meat, but its not like it tastes bad.
Then again, I may be biased because I grew up with a vegetarian mother, and its never been taboo to me. Most people probably feel that way because they haven't been exposed to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle as much.
I have no problem eating vegan alternatives sometimes and I would probably eat a more meat alternatives simply if they were a wider range in the shops. I'd like to have variety in my diet as long as they were healthy and don't break the bank. id be integrated to see and try what they had there as I don't know much about the range of vegan food. I know about humose, tofu, nuts, one type of seaweed and 2 or 3 mushrooms but I can only assume there's much more.
In vitro meat is interesting as well though it may become a large scale meat replacement in the future. It would is both low fat and animal friendly and potentially gives more variety the issue now is scaling it up and lowering the cost.
im veggie and have been for 35 years so to those below who say you need meat to live... bollocks. i do however dislike meat alternatives on the whole. i would prefer a spag boll with just veg than a mince alternative but at least i have tried most meat substitutes to arrive at the decision that im not a fan. i hate celery too.
I love vegan food. Vegans really know how to cook vegetables to my liking. I think the best meal would probably be a rare steak, an onion blossom, and some unidentifiable vegan mess on the side with a modern craft IPA.
Perhaps they've come across overly pushy vegans and it's left a bad taste in their mouth. Personally I don't really care, I like trying new foods. I prefer veggie burgers over regular burgers, so going to a vegan restaurant sounds like an exciting things because it's new food to try. I wouldn't want to be a vegan though, but I don't mind eating at vegan restaurants and such.
Firstly I would like to say I'm open to trying vegan food.
However. Based from my cooking, not only do I cook meat at least once a day (or a "meat" product), I had a feeling some foods I would find taste strange. For instance, personally I prefer onions fried in butter. I will eat it in olive oil but it tastes best to me in butter.
For a lot of meat eaters, and to an extent myself, meat is a part of my nightly meal. I pick a meat and go with it.
The argument used by your friend is retarded out of context and s/he was being a bit inept.
I do eat meat, but I eat vegetarian meals more often than not. Refusing to go to your birthday party because meat wouldn't be served was selfish, illogical, and melodramatic. It sounds like maybe they thought you were forcing veganism down their throats, but inviting them to one vegan meal doesn't mean you're trying to convert them. They were very immature.
I think they're mostly afraid of the "fake meats", because yes it doesn't necessarily taste the same, and even myself I love vegetarian food I was raised but some brands imitations are absolute shit that made me turned off.
You are never going to make everybody happy. We have four good vegetarian restaurants in my town, and they all have some great dishes. It's probably the preachy/self-righteous atmosphere they were hoping to avoid more than the food. But good for you for saving animals, fighting against cruelty, holding to your beliefs, doing your own thing, and not caving to peer pressure. Your truest friends will always support you in whatever paths you choose. :)
It's not vegan food in general that freaks most of us out, it's the vegan alternatives to specific meat dishes. Like if I want a steak, a vegan alternative would be a huge mushroom or cabbage "steak". Or if I want a sautéed chicken dish, it would become a sautéed tofu dish. And then there's the depressing lack of butter and eggs. It's just that the vegan versions of specific non-vegan foods are rarely any good to some of us. And then the whole idea of going to a vegan restaurant can feel a bit out of the comfort zone.
Because I'm a carnivore and must consume dead flesh at every meal or I feel deprived. I would literally go out after that vegan meal and get a chicken breast or something because to me vegan food is the same as rabbit food. All healthy vegetables and no substance. I know it's not true but that what my body is telling me.
I definitely would have no qualms about trying it, as I love trying new foods. I think it would be interesting to see what their menu is comprised of too, and what kind of alternatives they have for non-vegan foods.
It's because so many people are too ignorant towards vegans and vegetarians. There are tons of things that are acceptable to eat if someone is vegan or vegetarian which can also be consumed by meat eaters. My friend and I were just talking about this.
I'm a meat eater, but I totally get why some people choose to become vegetarian. Some people do it due to animal rights concerns, while others do it for the lifestyle. A plant based diet definitely has health benefits.
I think the problem is that so many people are just against being a vegetarian or anything for that matter, that they simply refuse to indulge. It's the same with other cultures. Many people I know refuse to even try foods from other cultures. And I'm not talking about cows eyes or things that would be strange to someone from like American or Canadian culture. But stuff like Souvlaki or Sushi. Sure, some people prefer to not eat raw fish (I can understand that). But when all it is is stuff they would already eat, but put into a different form, they won't even try it.
It kind of sucks that so many people have such a closed mind. At least give it a try. If they don't like it, then they never have to eat it again. But don't bash it just because. My friend and I are planning on going to a vegan restaurant sometime. I eat meat, but I love veggies and I can be satisfied from a meal without meat.
I think there are a lot of vegetarian options that people would love if they just gave them a try!
I wouldn't mind eating normal vegetarian dishes, made from vegetables, legumes etc. but those substitutes for bacon and stuff like that, just no. Firstly , a lot of them are made out of artificial ingredients, additives etc. unless you pay 3 times more for organic, real versions. I do know that is the case with all food, but I find a lot of vegetarian ones are a big scam. Secondly, soy. Most of soy in the world is genetically modified even if you manage to find one which is not, there is a lot of scientific research done which claims soy might cause genital abnormalities including cancer. I'm not some health freak, but some things are just a no for me. Plus don't like soy taste. Thirdly, you can't convince meat eater/ lover that mushroom and black bean pattie tastes like a burger. It is ok but it will never come close to meat. We love meat, is all, sorry if that offends vegetarians. I would go to vegetarian restaurant with friends an load up on healthy vegges, love my veggies and some of my fave recipes come from vegetarians.
Why can't they eat what they want and you eat what you want? I really dislike people like you who try to push your own habits onto others.