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I'd like to know peoples thoughts on this. I got up this morning to see the story, and the first thought in my mind was... how in the hell does ISIS down a supersonic Russian jet? Is russian military equipment that dated and obsolete? Well lo and behold... I learn that Turkey had shot it down claiming that they were violating turkish airspace. Look, say what you want about Putin, but given Turkey's tacit support of ISIS, from buying their oil, to bombing kurdish forces trying to fight isis, this most recent incident honestly seals the deal for me when it comes to Turkey. The Turkish government, or at least some part of it supports ISIS. How do you justify shooting down a russian jet, knowing that they are there trying to take down an enemy Turkey should have been dealing with themselves long ago? Even if its true that they did violate turkish airspace, you're telling me that Turkey can't give russia a bit of leeway to use a sliver of their airspace to take these guys down near the border? I mean, they acted as if the Russian jet was headed straight for Instanbul, missiles loaded. Perhaps if this were the only incident with Turkey, maybe i could give them some sort of benefit of the doubt, but time and time again they've shown that they aren't serious about fighting ISIS, to the point where you would swear ISIS and Turkey were allies. It's really hard for me to turn a blind eye to this. Even if turkey was in the right, could they not avoid shooting it down to avoid an unnecessary international incident, and then complain about it to the right bodies after the fact? I know all the powers have their own interests being in the region, including Putin, but to take this plane down was callous as hell in my view.
P. S. i believe the pilot (s) died too, so they didn't even have enough time to eject out of the damn thing before Turkey decided to stab them in the back
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No doubt about it, Turkey fucked up. People say "Russia does this all the time. Blah, blah, blah.". Yes, Russia does violate the airspace of many sovereign countries often but SO DO MOST OTHER COUNTRIES, especially Turkey.
I may have a biased opinion because I believe violating sovereign airspace is not grounds for military action in and of itself. Yes, escort them, yes send radio communication and, yes, if it's an issue of national security, you are warranted in shooting them down. However, if you know that a country is running active military strikes on a country that's bordering you AND your country is essentially blocking that their path (See the world map: shoebat.com/.../...l-shale-countries-map-east.gif) shooting them down is an act of war.
The pilots ejected from the plane and were shot dead by terrorist groups in northern Syria which is a war crime that Turkey facilitated. If Turkey is going to aid terrorist organisations and shoot down planes combating them, they have no place in NATO. Just my opinion.1