How much do you know about the issue of minimum wage?

This is not your opinion on minimum wage should be, but what you know about the issue.


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Most Helpful Guy

  • There is no issue. Minimum wage is exactly what it means. The minimum wage that businesses are legally required to compensate employees for their work.

    The minimum wage should sit exactly where it is, because jobs that pay minimum wage are jobs requiring minimal to no skills. Basically, any person with elementary school education can perform the job - like stacking inventory, working a cash register, flipping burgers, custodial/cleaning work. While the job itself is necessary for a business to operate, the demand for such jobs will never outgrow the supply.

    When employers post a minimum wage job and get 200 applicants for 1 position, it makes no sense to pay more than minimum wage, because someone among the 200 applicants will accept that wage.

    Jobs requiring no skill should not pay a living wage. This is not to keep poor people poor. It is to force adults to make a living by contributing to society. If skilless jobs paid a living wage, society would have masses of teenagers dropping out of school because they would no longer need an education to earn a living wage. We'd be going backwards in progress, much like the movie Idiocracy.

    MW jobs should be reserved for teens in high school, getting into their first job. When a person is 30 and still flipping burgers, that person is a waste of a life. He has a job, not a career. He contributes almost nothing to society (the value of a burger is low), and as such, he should be rewarded with almost nothing.

    Not all people work equally hard. There is a disproportionately large number of lazy people in this world who would rather live on welfare than get a job. Society should not reward such people.

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    • How utterly disgusting that you literally equate the wage someone earns to their value. Low skill jobs are the backbone of almost every single economy, how dare you make out that people cleaning hospitals, sweeping the streets, collecting rubbish, cutting grass... how fucking dare you say they are worth less than someone who lies to sell houses to people, or someone who makes peoples tits bigger. Some humans work to pay bills, not to ha e a career. A lot of humans value their home life over their so called career because what is important is their family and quality of life. They wouldn't want to be an investment banker earning millions because they want to live their life with their friends and family.

      You cannot keep the poor poor, the entire country suffers when your poorest people cannot afford to live and are struggling. You're only as strong as your weakest link. Your attitude is fucking horrendous.

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    • @TakeMaker

      You said "I just feel like you've got no clue how fucking hard it is."

      I'm sure it's tough. But why have sympathy for a person based on a look at the final outcome of their choices?

      I will bet if you reviewed that person's life, they would have made a series of bad choices over and over and over again - which is why they're in that position. Common bad choices that put people in a shitty place:
      1. Getting pregnant as a teen because they don't want to use protection.
      2. Dropping out of school.
      3. Borrowing from Cash Advances.
      4. Gambling beyond their financial means.
      5. Spending on non-essentials beyond their means.
      6. Never growing up... like many millenials who are 20-30 and still playing video games all day, every day... Pokemon Go, streaming games... etc. At 30+ years old.
      7. Watching a panhandler take his money and go to McD for a $8.99 meal when he could buy 2 days worth of food (bread, meat, juice) for that amount.

    • @Table20
      Look at the Gauss curve of IQ. Should people on the bad side really starve in the US?

Most Helpful Girl

  • I know people want it raised to $15, which is RE-diculous. They say they can't survive on minimum wages and it's not fair that someone flipping burgers isn't as valued as a factory worker or substitute teacher or some hospital workers.

    But that's all I know.

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What Guys Said 14

  • Employers still think it shouldn't exist.
    I know it would be hard to live from minimum wage, even harder to raise a family.
    Calculate how much it is where you live, keep track of what you spend, totaling it each day or week. See which day of the month you reach the amount of minimum wage. Then imagine what you'd do.

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  • The issue about minimum wage is that its non-functional. If you create a minimum-wage, it increases the expenses a company has. How does the company compensate those expenses? By raising their income aka their prices. Meaning after the initial positive impact a minimum wage has for a few weeks and months it becomes essentially zero and all it does is increasing a countries inflation.

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  • The minimum wage is a good idea in theory but the problem with it is it can stifle general pay increases. If a corporation is expected to pay a certain wage, then it gives the corporation an excuse not to increase wages in line with inflation. So workers could find themselves hampered by something which was supposed to help them in the first place.

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  • An increase in minimum wage is backwards. This will cause employers hire fewer people and to raise prices. Also benefit cuts. This will increase inflation. The economy will adjust to make the cost of living even higher. Once those places who approved increases have their laws go into full effect for the small businesses, these businesses will downsize or collapse.

    Putting more money into the economy makes the dollar worth less.

    Lowering costs and prices is the correct direction to go,

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    • @dudeinohio

      Most of what you said is accurate.

      If there is a large increase in minimum wage to $15/hr, prices will rise, jobs will be lost and you'll have more people making minimum wage (everyone earning $14.99/hr or less today will make more, but they'll now be minimum wage earners).

      But the inflation that comes with a huge wage increase will obliterate the value of a person's savings. Yes, if you worked hard to save your money or buy a home, that hard work will be chewed up and spat back in your face as you see the purchasing power of that 100k you saved up, or the value of your home... decline. That's not a solution in the best interest of the people.

    • Austerity works for six months or a year, then people start buying less and companies go bankrupt.
      Raise wages and people buy more, businesses get bigger turnovers and profits.

    • @meowcow I agree with you 100%

  • I know that too many people work 40+hours a week and struggle to pay for the necessities to live. I know that if minimum wage properly scaled with inflation we would be at $21 an hour. I know that CEOs can take a pay cut to provide for their workers and still live extremely comfortably.

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    • It wouldn't actually matter if minimum wage were $21/hour. You're assuming that all other factors (everyone else's salary, the cost of goods and services) remain the same.

      If MW was $21 tomorrow, everyone earning $9.00 - to 20.99/hour today would suddenly become minimum wage earners. You can bet the cost of that burger at McD isn't going to stay at $1.99, when all employees, factory workers support staff are paid more than double the dollar amount.

      What would happen is that the cost of everything would correct itself and adjust to a new equilibrium. In the end, the PURCHASING POWER of $21/hour... will be no different than the current wage of $9/hour or whatever it is in your state/country.

      It's silly to think that raising minimum wage to $21, or $50 or even $100 would mean a bounty for all. Minimum wage, regardless of what amount you make it, is still minimum.

  • The biggest issue is that even idiotic people who don't deserve it will get it while other bright people who deserve more might get stuck with it.

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  • I know it's been too low for too long compared to the cost of living that only continues to rise.

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  • I know almost nothing about it, and what little I do I don't see the issue

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    • What it's sounding like is that undeserving people are feeling entitled to a higher pay that will just drain the hard workers

  • It's a tricky concept because although I do think it should be raised a bit suddenly if you raise it too much people with college degrees are making less at their jobs then people with no education working at McDonald's, that wouldn't be right either

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  • Quite a bit, ib wrote a college essay on it for a sociology class several years ago.

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  • enough to know it's highly complex.

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  • dont care tbh

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  • My opinion is that it shouldn't exist, but that we should have a basic national income.

    Whether or not someone can live on a wage shouldn't be relevant. If we want to make sure everyone has enough to live on, we should use income redistribution to guarantee that. At that point, if someone who is not working, finds a job for $5/hour, and they want to do it, why would we make that illegal?

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    • But income redistribution is considered Socialism.
      In America employers don't think they're responsible towards their employees. An they don't think the State is responsible towards its citizens for their survival.

    • @jacquesvol Employers shouldn't be responsible for their employees.

      We have income redistribution. Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, etc. etc.

  • If you raise the minimum wage there will be less jobs and prices will go up.
    Perhaps instead work to lower the cost of living where possible ie cheaper accommodation army bunk style if it has to be.
    Also raise productivity ie electric mops for cleaners or automatic brick layers then you get cleaners that can get a pay rise if they do a 1 day electric mop health and safety coarse or brick layers that can if they learn to fix robotic brick layers.
    In an ideal world i think everyone would work in automation of some form and production

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What Girls Said 6

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    -some want 15
    -some want 12
    -some want it based on the area
    -some think wage equality is mutually exclusive to some (underpaid people in job A can't get a raise if underpaid people in job B don't as well.)

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  • What exactly is "the issue"? Minimum wage itself is just as it says it is, what issues are you talking about, there could be many.

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  • No issues here. Min wage is $15.25 if you work full time on that and live in a reasonably cheap area you can live on it.

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  • What's the issue?

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  • honestly, not much

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  • Very little as I've almost always gotten paid under the table and am now self employed so its not an issue for me...

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