Should a Spouse get half of their partner's income or wealth during a divorce? Why or why not?
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razelove | 64 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
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No, my reasoning is very simple. Gaming and exploiting a divorce is far too simple.
Debt is an asset, and the "half" is only in states with community property. Otherwise there's no guarantee that either side will leave with a penny to their name. I know a guy who's paying alimony of 800k/year for the rest of his life, regardless of how much he's earning. She divorced him when he had a good job with a good year that had a great bonus. He doesn't have the job anymore, but he still has the alimony to pay, god forbid she loses that standard of living.
On my end, if I wanted to make a divorce vicious I would buy property, max out cards, and amass as much debt as possible. I'd then transfer all of the actual value to someone else I trust for a dollar at a notary. Now I'm worth debt, with community property, we now have debt to split, and all the actual value is waiting for me when the divorce is over with a nice bird-dog fee going to them.
There are winners and losers in divorce. The only way to win is to make sure your former lover loses, and loses hard. Kids become pawns and will lose regardless of who "wins"
If it's a 50/50 split as many states and courts strive for, I can exploit that so your portion is 50% of, I don't know, let's say 1.5 million is the most debt I think I could rack up within a year. Being able to keep 1.5 million in assets for 750k, winning. You getting 0 dollars of worth for 750k in debt... losing. Also a good example of why it's so dangerous to have your identity stolen, imagine getting that bill without even having the marriage or divorce.
A marriage is a legal contract, a divorce is the dissolution of that legal contract.
There of course are a lot of romantic ideas floating around about marriage as well and for most people the legal part of it is not the "important part". But the legal part of it is what covers the financial aspect of it. Another thing the romantic side probably thinks of as "unimportant". But when the romance is gone, all you have left is the legality.
As a legal contract, marriage basically states that you and your partner are a team. Whatever you produce together, is considered earned together and should be divided equally. If that means one person is leaving the home each day and coming home every night with $5,000 in their pocket, and the other person is staying home each day and has $0 in their pocket each night, it is considered they together, as a team, produced $5,000 and each is entitled to half, or $2,500.
I'm not here to judge but just for speculation's sake you could have a lazy "worker" and a productive "homemaker" just as much as you can have a productive "worker" and a lazy "homemaker". What each person brings to the team is not always easily measured in financial wealth. This is why I think the finances should be split evenly. If that's not a contract you think is fair, then definitely reconsider the standard marriage contract if you ever do get married, and make any adjustments you and your partner agree on. If you can't agree, then don't sign the contract.
DizzyDesii | 348 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
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I think they should get what they came in with (or what they separately earned while together). We have separate accounts for a reason... and hidden nonbank accounts for this specific reason. If kids are involved, then the courts should take an equal amount from both parents to put towards the kid. OR just make it where the kid is required to be financially cared for by the parent who chose to take the custody for the time being. (Example, when he’s with me, I’ll pay for his expenses. When he’s with you, you can pay for his expenses.) Like why foght for custody if you can't financially care for the kid all by yourself 🤷♀️
The divorce laws are unfair so definitely not. Don't get a divorce then. And those who make excuses as to why divorce is bad WHY ARE YOU GETTING MARRIED in the first place? Pick your partner carefully. Divorce is bad and these laws are making it easier to get them which is ridiculous. People just don't try anymore and want things the easy way.
When you get married, you share everything between the two so why does it make sense for you to get half of the person's you despise (that's why you divorced them, you hate them) their assets.
DIvorce laws are awful and totally skewed towards women.. But Its better to divorce someone you fell out of love with and see you are incompatible and a total waste of time with, then sticking through the marriage. Might even be better for the kids to not see their parents fighting.
Nobody wants to get divorced, but nobody knows how a marriage is going to be 10-20 or even 5 years down the line. You don't know your partner that well until you live with them and interact with them nearly 24/7 outside of work. Sometimes you can do your best, but they could have a baggage or addiction they can't let go of.. or make really dumb decisions and you or they fall out of love
There was a guy who had no money so his divorce didn't include getting money. Then 20 years later he's successful and his x won a lawsuit so he now had to pay like 250,000 or more. 20 fucking years later, just goes to show men shouldn't get married.
Yeah, my first marriage was just stupid, oh the decisions we make at 18. I want me my girlfriend on base and more money each payday! That turned a trash fire into a dumpster fire, then after discharge and picking up contracts it was sprinkling money kindling on that dumpster fire to a house fire.
It was a group effort fuck-up, honestly when the divorce was over it was probably the happiest we had been in our relationship before walking out of the notary and never talking again. So yeah, 100% agree, think more before you get married and why you're doing it before whining about the divorce.
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OlderAndWiser | 2K opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
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In my state (Florida,) each spouse keeps
1. what was theirs before the marriage, 2. anything that they inherited during the marriage, and 3. anything that they received as a gift from anyone other than their spouse.
Marital assets are those things that were acquired during the marriage (regardless of whether those assets are titled jointly or in just one name,) and those are usually divided evenly between the spouses. The same division is made with debts.
4. Any debt that a spouse had before the marriage is solely that spouse's debt. 5. Any debts that were acquired during the marriage (regardless of whether those debts are titled jointly or in just one name,) are divided evenly between the spouses.
I’ve always wanted to marry but that debt crap scares me. I’ve worked very hard and always thought before acting to ensure i never go into debt. The fact that their debt would get thrown on me makes it understandable as to why many fear a legal marriage/certificate 🙈
Yea but that scares me too. Im saying i dont wanna be reaponsible for someone elses debt in general. Like it makes you feel sorry for spouses whose spouse secretly gambles and gets into debt. Then you both owe it back
@DizzyDesii In Florida, there is an exception to the rule of equal splits of assets and liabilities when one spouse has engaged in gambling or an addiction (alcohol, drugs, QVC, etc.) that results in a wasting of assets.
If it's wealth created during the marriage by both parties or if one stayed home at the request of the other to take care of the kids/family why should that person now walk away with nothing after sacrificing their career for their family? Can't have it both ways.. Some men say they want their wife not to work but then want to say in a divorce she should get nothing? So why should a woman take that risk? Isn't that why alimony and child support for established in the first place? Because of the men that thought they could abandon their wives and children with nothing and then start over with a new family leaving women to scramble to find employment but being out of the workforce so long and not having the work experience others had had to take whatever they could get, which wasn't always enough. And divorcing doesn't excuse any parent, male or female from still providing for their child.
ObscuredBeyond | 133 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
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Family courts have to start getting paid to stop tearing families apart. Make dissolution a desperate last resort.
Currently, family courts are able to make a mint off destruction of a family. The laws in place now all but guarantee that! It's an open door to secret trials, forgery of signatures on documents, human trafficking , extortion , robbery, etc. Blatant human rights violations, enacted under the color of law, with zero transparency or accountability!
Corruption under such a setup is limitless. Yet, the measure remains firmly intact. Because not enough groups are suing in the right places to hold accountable the ghouls responsible. Until we can have fair and trustworthy elections again , rather than letting Generation Participation Trophy run the show, we won't get a Congress with the moral fiber to repeal unjust laws. Nor a president who will prosecute courts and bureaucrats who act in bad faith !
The current cream of Red and Blue Kool Aid crop is fully content with keeping Bill Clinton's legacy alive, no matter who gets hurt!
It's more of a subjective thing, a case by case situation. Who has what, who made what, how to provide for the kids, etc. I don't think anyone should be left destitute, but once you part, why should you pay for anything for the other person? It's up to both parents to raise and provide for the kids, it's not the 1800's anymore, both parents should get jobs and agree on their own how to provide for the kids and raise them. Child support should only be paid until the other parent can provide for the kids and prove that they are working towards that end by documenting job applications in some way. As for splitting property, I'll leave that up to the pair, who needs what then decide who wants what. Income is EARNED, no one is entitled to be paid for doing nothing. Most people will support their partner until they get their feet under them.
Myself personally I’ve seen and know instances where the wife didn’t want half, she got it all! And those same men told me that was the best money spent to get rid of their headaches. But one word was brought up to protect one’s self. That being Prenuptial and when you think It’s a great idea. What’s hers is hers and yours etc. plus the $$ stress if any will be gone! Now from a older perspective. My parents use to have 1yes one, uno bank account with both their Name on it. Just like everything else. Guess what they were not wealthy! What I’m saying is today trust and real love are gone. My father passed on their 60th. Today a prenup. Times they are a changin~ Bob Dylan
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Miristheiss | 238 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
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"Half their income". Not sure what is meant by that. Income is what an employer pays an employee... based on the pay scale of that career... based on education, talent, experience, performance... etc. That is just between the employer and employee.
If there is a divorce than each person is an independent citizen. Each earns their own way through life. Neither is due the other's income. That is theirs alone.
Property and assets that are equally owned or accumulated during the marriage should be split equally. Anything either owned BEFORE marriage should stay with the owner.
The income has nothing to do with the other person.
No they shouldn’t. As long as you are together whatever is theirs is shared but once they separate then why should they take what belongs to an ex partner?
I would not take anything if I got divorced from my husband and I would not want to give anything either.
I think if there are children that are proven to be the man’s or woman’s biologically then they should give something to them because a lot of people wash their hands of children after a divorce and something should be put in place to help children financially.
Legally, as long as there is no prenup to establish the terms for dividing assets, you have to follow the pre-established rules. When you get a divorce, each spouse gets to keep whatever property they owned before marriage, while the shared property gets divided equally (in most of the cases) OR fairly. I think this is normal. If we've been married for ten years and we bought a house together, it's fair to split it equally. If you had a condo and I had a car before we got married, those are ours alone. As to the income part, nobody can or should have access to that - that's the amount of money you get paid for doing whatever job you were hired for. A former spouse can have access to some of your income money if you have children together and you have to pay alimony - but even then, the money are for the children, not for your former spouse.
You're confusing alimony (money you have to pay your former spouse) with child support (money you have to pay to take care of your children's expenses).
@MrOracle you are right! thanks for pointing that out. English isn't my native language; we have a similar word that, legally, means child support.
slatyb | 474 opinions shared on Break Up & Divorce topic.
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In community property states, all assets that accrued to either partner during the marriage are joint assets. Assets owned prior to the marriage are not marital assets are are not subject to division. So yeah, it's fair that the joint assets are divided between the parties.
It depends if they have kids or not. If they don’t then I don’t see why they should get half, because kids are expensive. Also I don’t think it should be for the rest of their lives like in some cases. I think it ends when the kid is 18 because they are legally considered adults, and any extra help would come from the kindness of the father and their relationship.
I wouldn't marry without a prenuptial agreement, that what I bring, before the marriage is STILL MINE, if there is a divorce, and what she has is hers! I've seen too many "loving couples" arguing over books, or DVDs, in the break up! Mostly, I don't see a point to marriage!! I don't see ANY BENEFIT, AT ALL, for the man? Please, if you know, tell me WHY, a man should consider marriage? Seems like a lose-lose situation, with Lawyers, and a lot of wasted money!!
@Jamie05rhs I agree. That's discussing divorce, though, not marriage itself. Marriage itself has benefits. I was responding to @JackSmy who said "I don't see a point to marriage!! I don't see ANY BENEFIT, AT ALL, for the man?" Obviously divorce is a different topic. It has drawbacks and I'd rather remain unmarried than get married and get a divorce.
@mistixs Thanks. And I agree with you as well. (Why do you think I haven't gotten married yet?)
But I think that's kinda what Jack meant. He also is wary of divorce.
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When my uncle divorced from his wife, she got the house and one of his cars and alimony. He moved away from her and went to live in a house that he rents for the time being. I do feel bad for my uncle having to give her money but at least it's for three years. After that is wife is on her own as far as money goes.
Personally if the man had wealth and success before his wife she shouldn't get a dime!
If they have children he should contribute to child support. Anyone else wanting more than that is a gold digger...🤷🏼♂️
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No, unless only one partner has been working and made all the money and agreed about this, they have kids together and they have been together for years, real love, and the working partner has been making a looot og money while the other one was taking care of house, kids and supporting the other one. Then I think it is fair, maybe or maybe not 50% but a fair share.
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Especially if the kids have their primary home with the parent who wasn’t working after divorce.
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And more so if these money was made during the courde of the relationship.
No especially without consent, otherwise the involved would be sued.
Before getting into marriage, it would be preferable to discuss about this with the partner. For example, a prenuptial agreement may be a good resort incase of divorce/unforseen events.
Taking have of your ex's earnings is theft in most cases. If they helped build that, then possibly. My ex threatened to steal half of my retirement, but had no chance. Not attorney or judge could do it because she was never married to me when I earned it. She never even knew me then.
It depends on a case-by-case basis. It makes sense if the lesser-earning spouse contributed equal value in other ways during the marriage, that they would both take equal value out of the marriage.
If you've ever been through divorce, the whole "before" part is completely irrelevant. The only way around it is that your property is community property, so you can sell everything you want to keep to a friend for a dollar, have a contract, then have them give it back after the divorce. Debt is an asset that can be split.
I like how 11 women said yes. Like nah girl you wanted this Cash then u would of had it if we stayed together cause I'd probably kms in the future anyway. Prenup immediately.
In marriage, both you and your spouse combine both your assets. Any debt that you take on, your wife also takes on. Any income that you make, will also be your wife's income. Both husband and wife are seen as 1 entity, not separate entities. So it makes sense that assets should be split 50/50 upon divorce. If you do not like this reality, then its better to not get married.
@arabella_rose So he is making $180,000, and she is making maybe $30,000, WITH TIPS, at the hair salon, and after five years, they divorce. So she is entitled to half of the $180,000, each year, that he earned, when she earned nearly nothing? WHY? Probably the BEST REASON for guys to NEVER MARRY!!
@arabella_rose Two things, on your posts, but the most important, first! Why do you just assume that a guy making $180,000 wouldn't, or couldn't find a TRUE LOVE, with a lady that maybe does work, at a hair salon, and maybe makes, $30,000 a year? Do you imagine he is too far 'above' being with someone, like that? Maybe she is a register clerk, at a grocery store, does it matter? How can anyone know who they fall in love with? Money doesn't mean shit to me, except having just enough to get by. The second point doesn't really matter, I guess.
@JackSmy Its kinda like saying the CEO of amazon or investment bank dating the bathroom janitor.
Usually guys who make that much money are highly educated and highly accomplished and will want a woman who is also educated and somewhat accomplished herself. Like there are leagues for looks, there are also leagues for education / accomplishments.
@JackSmy But if you chose to marry someone who works a minimum wage job over a girl who actually can make a decent living, then you deserve to lose half of your assets upon divorce. Nobody told you to marry someone with a terribly low net worth
@JackSmy I have worked with professional , very educated men at investment banks / accounting firms. I can tell you that the more sophisticated and educated he is, the more likely he will seek out someone who is similarly educated / accomplished as him. Highly educated men usually have little to nothing in common with folks without an education. So even if he does not judge her based on her lack of education, they will end up having difficulty getting along and relating to each other.
If you're saying that the man making 180k a year is uneducated, knows little to nothing , average joe then he would be fine dating a bathroom janitor.
@JackSmy As much as people do not like to admit it, there is a hierarchy ranking. Having a prestigious education / career DOES get you more respect and others will see you as in a higher league. Its kind of like dressing to impress.
Would you respect someone with a dirty shirt , ripped jeans and a baseball cap more than a well dressed man with a tailor fitted suit, shiny shoes, gelled hair?
@arabella_rose I know what you are saying, I know the stigmas, the stereotypes, but how will it EVER change, unless some start the change by believing and not accepting being treated as less, because they are not making a lot of money. It starts small, and simple. Today, I was just starting to drive away from a gas station, and a black guy, in torn jeans, looking ragged was walking across the exit. I stopped and waited for him to pass. He said "thank you, my man!" like it was something special, to just respect him, walking there? I didn't understand. Just because someone makes a lot of money, or drives an expensive car, doesn't mean anything to me. It's the PERSON, and WHO they are, that matters!
@JackSmy ok. so you're saying that looks don't matter? money doesn't matter? We, as a society, tend to unconsciously judge people based on their looks, money, the way they dress.
Pretty girls are always going to get more dates than ugly girls. It doesn't matter how great of a person the ugly girl is, she is always gonna get less dates than the pretty girls.
You will always respect a man with a tailor fitted suit over the black guy wearing sagging jeans, and over sized t shirt.
You will always see the billionaire mark cuban as "higher up" than a bathroom janitor.
People like to claim that they are not shallow or judgmental. But its human nature to be judge.
@JackSmy Imagine if you owned a small business, you are looking to hire a worker. One well qualified interviewee walks in with an old t shirt , baseball cap, and dirty sneakers. Another well qualified applicant walks in with a nice fitted suit, shiny shoes and ironed shirt, nicely combed hair and impeccable manners.
You're likely gonna hire the one who dressed well and made a good impression on you. Its nothing but just the truth.
@arabella_rose LOL!! WTF? I'm trying to say positive things, and tell you that I don't think like MOST, and you keep arguing for the limitations!! "If you argue for your limitations, you get to keep them!" Yeah, looks matter, to most; yeah, skin color matters, to most; yeah, a criminal record matters, to most; BUT NOT ALL!!! I have hired in two different companies, and the resume looks WOW!! Then at the interview, they SUCK!!! Someone comes in, and yeah, the 10th resume, and we are desperate, and they interview like WOW!!! Why didn't you put all that in your resume? That was the person we wanted, but their resume didn't get them the interview, that got them the job!! It was they way they presented themselves, in the interview, that closed the deal! That's maybe why I am saying all this!! Some look good on paper, but SUCK, in reality!! Some look weak, but they are the REAL THING!!
@JackSmy hun, what I'm trying to say is: we all unconsciously judge people based on the way they dress, the way they look, their accomplishments, their intellect, their status.
Of course you would speak to a CEO differently compared to a maid right?
This is the precise thing that I am trying to emphasize to you. We ALL judge unconsciously. Its human nature.
@arabella_rose Yes, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING! But I am asking you, if you can accept, and be part of the CHANGE, and CHOOSE to see beyond the stereotypes, and see the PERSON, rather than being stuck in the rigid DOGMA, that is going nowhere, and helping NOBODY! Can you UNDERSTAND THAT? :) : )
@JackSmy Often many people think that we can choose to not judge, but trust me, it is human nature for us to judge people. And frequently we do it without even us knowing it. If you were to talk down the street with a man with sagging pants, hands in his pockets, dirty t shirt, and face hiding in a dark hat. You will probably find yourself tense up or be more cautious versus to walking down the street by a man were dressed in a button up shirt, and tie right?
This instinct to " judge" is developed in all humans in order to protect ourselves.
Intuition is also developed through life experience and judging. Have you ever had moments in your life , where you just had a gut feeling that this person is a bad / creepy person but you can't precisely pin point why you feel this way? Well you are judging this person based on your intuition.
And women who make a high salary have a harder time finding suitable guys since their dating pool is limited. So you shouldn’t blame the guy for finding someone who makes less than him.
What the fuck? Blaming the guy for marrying someone with a “low-worth”? Your personality is low-class and you’re a total gold digger. You’d get rich from divorce.
@modelUN242 well if you do not want a gold digger, then date women who make similar income as you. Don't make 180k , marry someone who makes minimum wage then cry when they take half your assets upon divorce. If you looked for a woman who made at least 100k then you won't be crying as much. Or if you don't want your assets to be split, then never get married.
You do know women who make a lot of money could quit their job once they settle for that rich guy? Or take maternity leave and then decide that they prefer to be a housewife instead. a lot of rich guys have housewives.
@arabella_rose everything you said is complete and total horseshit. first the ceo of amazon jeff bezos did get divorced and she got over 20 billion dollars of his stock. she was never a billionaire until she divorced him and second he got his startup money from his mommy and daddy and a bunch of millionaire investors so you're complete lack of knowledge is astounding. Also i've seen what you call educated investment banker men and most of them I've dealt with were complete morons and completely useless. i've had the same amount of knowledge as those pinheaded saps with the exception of options trading which i can't stand so that argument gets null and void. also i myself am a college grad which is a completely useless degree something i can now officially wipe my ass with (the worthless piece of paper as a degree) whereas the woman i love was homeschooled and holds no more than a ged. you really need to educate yourself before judging people. because i can tell you 99% of everything you spewed off holds no validity.
@arabella_rose i'm actually glad you brought that example up about the jeans vs suits because when i was an applicant at a business i talked to the owner and on his desk he had two piles of resumes and applications one pile was his reject list and the other was his possible hiring list. guess which was bigger. his reject list and do you know what he did with that list right in front of me? he threw it right in the garbage right in the trash can in front of me. and majority of those people on the reject list had suits on not ripped jeans but well dressed button down shirts ties shoes dress pants etc. not to say there weren't applicants in that reject pile who weren't wearing jeans because some of them were but a lot of them were dressed in suits or dressed nice and still got rejected. so you're assumption was flat out wrong about the suits vs jeans. also i can tell you for a fact that in this world it's not a matter of what you know or how you dress but who you know when dealing with business and who you know will get you a lot farther then what you know or how you're dressed
@arabella_rose and also i would treat a janitor with the same amount of respect i would a ceo because i've seen and dealt with some pretty dumb fucking ceo's in my day who didn't know what the fuck they were doing on the job. i've dealt with dumb bitches like vicki hollub ceo of occidental who was a complete fucking screwup and the only reason she still has a job was because of a stipulation made by myself, carl icahn, and other shareholders at an semi annual stock holder meeting (except buffett) that the board of directors and especially the chairman of the board will leave and be replaced but the ceo stays which pissed not only myself but a lot of other investors off. also another example of an incompetent ceo was Brian Krzanich the biggest screwup intel ever hired. it got so bad he had to be fired and put on the never to rehire list. then his successor another incompetent screwup bob swan was just as bad but not nearly as bad as brian. So just because you're a ceo doesn't mean you're a good one and sure as hell doesn't mean you deserve the position you're put in. Also look at kathleen kennedy the biggest screwup at disney and only has her power for 2 reasons. 1 she's the only female exec there and firing her would be bad pr and 2. she only made the billions because of the star wars brand on her fuck up disasters she had coming out but when she wasn't directly involved with any of the projects they were successful but when she was they turned out to be a complete and total disaster.
@arabella_rose and i've seen janitors who had more brains and business skills then ceos themselves in my years of being an investor in various multibillion dollar corporations
@modelUN242 Rich men tend to marry other rich , well educated women. This is because rich people tend to be above average in intelligence, attend top colleges, and very ambitious. So these rich guys tend to be surrounded by other similar, very smart people. If you attend harvard, there is a good chance all your friends will be ivy league material. It is likely your wife will also be very smart. If you work at an investment bank as a billionaire, you will constantly be working and surrounded by around other ambitious career women. Your wife will likely be a career woman. People tend to marry those who they see daily in their social circles.
And rich successful well educated guys tend to not want to marry maids or bathroom cleaners. They are aware they are well above their league. why would you marry someone who cleans poop , when you can get a woman who is smart, well educated, ambitious, has accomplishments?
@arabella_rose sorry i completely worded part of my response wrong. the stipulation to keep that fuckup vicki at her job was agreed to by myself, carl icahn, and other investors. the stipulation was brought to us and other investors by the potential new chairman of the board who originally gave that screwup vicki her job as ceo and in order to bring him back as chairman that stipulation had to be agreed upon by myself, mr. icahn, and other shareholders to get the old chairman of the board out. and when mr icahn tried buying the company the cunt vicki used the poison pill and in case you're not familiar with the poison pill it's a term used when a ceo thinks one or more or a group of investors or a hedge fund firm plans on outright buying a company the poison pill diludes the shareholders value of stocks in the company giving the stock holder less power by adding more shares to the company diluding the current value of the stocks.
@arabella_rose bottom line just because a person dressed in suits and is a ceo doesn't mean shit when they're complete fuckups at their job and somebody who holds no more than a high school diploma and works as a janitor can have more brains than a ceo of a multi billion dollar corporation who can run it to the ground
@Rob17792 ok. so just walk into your job interview with a dirty t shirt and ripped jeans and dirty unwashed hair. nobody will judge you. everyone will want to hire you with that outfit
@arabella_rose actually yes i have walked into jobs with jeans tshirts etc and yes i have gotten hired by multiple companies and i've also turned a lot of companies down because the owners were incompetent morons who didn't know what the fuck they were doing or how to run a business
@Rob17792 you can only get hired with a dirty t shirt, ripped jeans, and ratty hair. Go to a top investment bank where people earn billions, security won't even let you in.
@arabella_rose when a store owner who's in his mid 50's divorced a couple of kids sitting at a cubical running the company to the ground by not hiring the appropriate staff and taking personal calls on company time about the gardener repaving his lawn and backyard yes i have turned the positions down after being hired. or when another owner works in a slightly bigger cubical and doesn't know how to work the software of his own company to schedule me for my start times and doesn't know how to follow through with getting the proper background checks and paperwork done on time or in an appropriate time and pays shit nickle and dime shit then yes i too have turned down positions like that as well after being hired especially with all the half assed stipulations they try presenting to me after i get hired.
@arabella_rose actually i have gone to top investment banks with ratty hair and jeans and tshirts as you put it and they did let me in and to name a few td ameritrade, fidelity, charles schwab goldman sachs shall i go on?
@Rob17792 Well you can certainly walk into your job interviews wearing a dirty t shirt , ripped jeans, matted hair. Lets just see how it goes. If first impressions do not matter at all. haha
@arabella_rose lets see i been in bank of america citizens bank santander bank all talking to investment people and i been in these places also with tshirts jeans and ratty hair as you put it not in suits etc
@arabella_rose and every single one of those multibillion dollar companies who i mentioned had at least a few incompetent morons running it at one point and when they seen my portfolios they were impressed by my business investment strategies
@arabella_rose right that's why i only gave you a shit ton of personal life experiences and examples. i'm doing responding to your pettiful troll bullshit because at this point i can tell you're just a pathetic attention seeking troll and i'm threw wasting words with you
@arabella_rose i don't work for any of those companies for 3 reasons 1. i do all my own investing 2. i never bothered getting any series licenses 3. all those licensed brokers became reduced to call center agents so why waste the hard earned money getting a series stock broker license when all they do is answer phone calls and do the same exact shit i do without the license for free and without wasting hundreds of dollars getting all those series licenses
@Rob17792 so why are you still angry and hating on rich people? you certainly don't sound happy that dressing up nicely in suits will gain you more respect than wearing a dirty t shirt.
@arabella_rose wtf are you going on about? i never said i hated rich people or angry at them and dressing up in suits means nothing just as dressing in jeans means nothing
@arabella_rose i never had an angry rant. all you been doing is making wild inaccurate inexperienced comments and opinions with no validity to back any of it up
@arabella_rose The only way for you to become rich and successful would probably be sucking the top positions off, that’s what my bf’s mother probably did. And she’s also Asian.
@modelUN242 At least I am gonna get to the top, unlike someone like you who married a broke man, struggling to feed your kids, can't send your kids to college, staying stuck in a sexless marriage with a husband who can't walk.
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Anonymous1 yNo, unless only one partner has been working and made all the money and agreed about this, they have kids together and they have been together for years, real love, and the working partner has been making a looot og money while the other one was taking care of house, kids and supporting the other one. Then I think it is fair, maybe or maybe not 50% but a fair share.React
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