People who abort there children for reason's other than sustaining their own live's on a fundamental basis, or to avoid unnecessary suffering such as physical sufferings for the child, as in it is diseased, should be dragged outside into the dirt, and shot dead, on the harsh end, less they be given reform if not life in prison.
Yeah? What happens when a girl is raped or has to abort in order to save their own lives?
They should only abort the child if it endangers both their and the child's life, as in the child will be dead because he will not be born because the mother will die in the process, or the child will not be sustained, etc etc.
I am not conservative, I am not religious, I am pro-life, and anyone who isn't, does not deserve the life they have, and should have it taken away from them, for those who do.
@Surfofthenomad abortion due to rape is a very rare thing. its more of a talking point for pro choice people then a real statistical occurrence.
@Surfofthenomad If the women is rapped, they should not abort the child, the child is innocent, and deserve's a chance to live.
@SurfofthenomadWe do not punish the innocent.If you do not want to raise the child, after it is born, than so be it, even though I disagree with the sentiment.
@Surfofthenomad Only one percent of abortions are due to rape.mean while we have over a million abortions a year, in the united state's alone, primarily for social and financial reasons.This is a fundamental sin, in the nonreligious sense, but in the moral one.
So mom's should be forced to look into the eyes of a child that has traits of her rapist and explain to their kid daddy isn't around because he raped mommy? What do you think happens to these kids when they grow up? They become fucked up degenerates that lead criminal lives or end up on welfare, just what we need. I wouldn't say it's statistically unlikelyhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8765248
@Surfofthenomad Two wrong's don't make a right.
@Surfofthenomad Life isn't fair, but people can be.
Haha, okay, so by your logic aborters should be "shot", yeah really pro-life there buddy...But hey! "Two wrongs don't make a right!"
@Surfofthenomad People who take life, need to be removed from society, sure it is hypocritical, but is the final solution, in term's of the most ultimate one.
i agree with you
Glad to hear. :)
Final conclusion.Those who are pro-life should live life to the best of their abilities.Those who are pro-death, should be "removed", from society, society will define the definition through it's justice system.
It's not pro-death, you fucking moron. It's about giving women autonomy to their bodies, they can choose whether or not to have a child, you ape.
@Surfofthenomad It is pro-death, when they are pro the idea of killing something for the idea that they are free to do so, so being free to kill and knowing and choosing to be that way, is pro-death.
@Surfofthenomad that choice is post conception though they still choose to have sex. so shouldn't men be given a post conception option on what they do with their body.
It's a collection of cells in the timeframe that they are allowed to abort. Men aren't carrying anything inside of them, they don't get pregnant, they're not going to die of complications. Don't drop out of high school.
@Surfofthenomad Any child, from a sentient being, has an ultimate right to life.
@Surfofthenomad so what if he makes the decision in the same time span thats what im proposing. also very few women die of complications from pregnancy less then men who die from work. so im not seeing the logic difference.
It's a cluster of cells, it's not a sentient being.
@SurfofthenomadIt is the child of a sentient being, therefore share's in the same rights.
Oh my godddddddddddddd, forget it, this is like talking to a wall.
@Surfofthenomad You mean like talking to yourself?That's a double double entendre.
@surfofthenomad that argument is so stupid, obviously if she's in danger or she was raped it's a different story
@BreateMe19, If a woman does not want a child, it is going to grow up neglected and likely become a degenerate in society. It's not going to become president, it's likely going to leave a life of crime and poverty. Just more mouths to feed and more welfare.Why make exceptions anyways? Why do you want someone to control your uterus?
@Surfofthenomad Who are you to judge the existence of a child's potential, especially if that child is unborn, and that does not create an exception to it's right to exist and to be alive.
Eh I don't know how you can say that. My best friend was an 'accident' her mother had her when she was 19. She's absolutely amazing and definitely not a degenerate to society. As much as I'm pro life, you obviously have to use your brain as well. @surfofthenomad
The left is ruining the country and by left I mean women
Guessing you haven't really studied economics.
well i think a lot of people would say being pro choice makes you kinda evil
That's true, and those people probably wouldn't want to date someone who is pro choice. I am somewhat pro choice, but I don't have a problem with anyone's views on it, so it wouldn't personally make me reject someone as long as we would be able to have a comfortable solution if I got pregnant.
Live and let live so your pro life correct
Pro choice. You are taking the phrase on a literal sense. Metaphorically it means that let people live as they want and thats my motto. Don't poke your nose in other's affairs. Her fetus, her body, her choice
actually in the united states most people are pro life in the second and third trimester and its split in the first trimester. im an atheist and im pro life.
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Well, it's your body...
why is that?
Our beliefs are just too different. We would both see the other person as being accepting of murder and being around them would make me very uncomfortable.
how is being pro life accepting of murder?
There are many cases where women have committed suicide or have been so desperate not to be forced to give birth to a child they don't want that they have gone through extremely dangerous methods of backstreet abortions and have died because of it. By being against legal and safe methods of abortion, the pro-lifers are supporting that both the woman and the child die instead. I can't be with someone who supports the pro-life movement.
thats not supporting murder. thats just these women not being able to deal with her choices. you're placing the blame of these deaths on pro lifers when really its the people themselves who can't deal with the life they made for themselves. pro lifers are supporting people not killing children not the death of the mother or the child.
I'm really not interested in a debate on this. That's the way I see it and you see it differently and I accept that, but I'm not going to have a discussion about it. I'm sorry for wasting your time if that's what you were looking for.
its ok i understand what your saying but its just misplaced blame. it sounds like you just doubly hate pro choice but with weird logic you turn it around on pro lifers.