Why are men still expected to pay on first date in modern dating world. ( only referring to dates.) Why dont people split bill on fist date?
What Girls Said 12
No clue. Though I like the idea of the other person paying, I would never expect such. I would have to turn you down if I didn't have the money, even if I liked you. Basically, you might get an automatic rejection solely on my financial situation.
I think whoever asks should pay for both, to avoid the unnecessary rejection. So gender shouldn't be a factor.0
I guess things are difference nowadays but men primarily paid because it's called "courting" a long lost art, men did it just to be in the company of a lovely women who no expectations just being a gentlemen and treating a women to a good time and if they hit it off a second date would ensue. The problem is gender roles are jacked up, I personally am traditional and the date should pay BUT the women returns the favors in kind by doing something nice like a small gift or cooking a meal for him on a following date that way someone is always contributing in some form, if a guy is so hyper focused on the check maybe he shouldn't be dating and stick to a TV dinner. That said not every women is a lady, so I understand the frustration of modern dating.0
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Half and half seems much fairer. I think it's called "going dutch" but I'm not sure. And like you said, it gets rid of the moochers who just want a free meal.1
girls have to do so much more and spend way more money just to go on a date0
There are a lot of things men still expect women to do. And i found the only answer. Don't date with a person who expect me to do traditional things just because of my gender.
Guys don't date a girl like that. Then girls will pay if they still wanna date.0
Why do guys complain so much? I can understand you don't want to pay ALL the date but you can at least paid the first right? You can just grab a coffee it wouldn't cost you more than $10.
After nothing force you to paid for it just don't complain that your date prefer having a second date with someone who have paid her first date.0
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What Guys Said 16
I am an older guy. The average age of women I date is 23 and my current girlfriend is 20.
I always ask on the first meeting, "Why do you like older guys?" The number one answer is, "Because they don't make me pay [for a date]".
So go ahead and insist on splitting the bill, and the hot girl that will never go out with you again will be sleeping with me.0
Because that is equal. Notice they only cry about "equality" when it benefits them..
As far a I'm concerned we split it every single time, even if the total ends up becoming $12. Call me cheap if you want, I'm equal.3
Because you're expected to be a gentleman! Even if everything else is equal, you should still approach, call first, open doors, help with talking off her jacket, push in the chair, and you guessed right, PAY FOR EVERYTHING, and not just on the first date but on every date.
That's what a gentleman would do and he would do it without hesitation.0
Tbh, never been on an expensive dinner date. But if I go for a coffee I just buy one for myself, or say ' after you ' when we line up for coffee. Only one girl ever psychologically pressured me to get coffee - we were at a coffee bar where we sat down first and then went up to get drinks /choose. She suggested I go get the coffee, which I did and then immediately felt guilty when I came back and insisted to pay. Point is, you can usually get away without paying for the girl.0
Haha questions like these make me appreciate how much luck I had with women. I was never expected to pay, quite the opposite, most women would insist on paying for the date, even on the second and third date.1
One reason I don't date and just stick to whores. It's far cheaper in the long run, even at $200 an hour.0
If women are so concerned about who pays for the date they aren't worth dating anyway.2
Women like a nice time. Paying for a nice time isn't a nice time to them.1
Women have been fucking spoiled. That's why.4
Because women don't realize that just about every argument as to why the man should pay can be equally applied to women as well.1
Because girls still want equality and special treatment1
because women are fucking hypocrites3
who gives a fuck go on a quick date like what's 50 dollars. Most people lie about what they make and its a good way to see if the dude is full of shit... If you make 5k a month and you care about 50 to $ 100 or even a $500 date you don't make the money you say you do. And if you think if I don't have money she won't like me you have an false sence if reality. fuck this going Dutch bullshit too. Usally is the girl is interested she would go buy tickets to a concert or comedy show to show that she appreciate you when you get to know her. And if she is a terable person who uses people then kick her to the curb her loss not mine.1
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