What I'm saying is like atttacts like, generally motivated people like to be around similarly motivated people.
You're a good quality guy. Lots of guys on here are cheap gold diggers who believe that women should pay for dates even when the guy asked her out.
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This is why I'm childfree in this capitalistic world. There just is No other way to live.
Go by the Reversed double standard biased against us*
Could i please have 1000 dollars?
i wish i met a girl like u. I dont get dates unless i have a job. Most women only care about a guy's money and looks.
We exist. I have mostly male friends because I really just don't get girls who act like that. But the few gal pals I do have, are all like me when it comes to men and dating.
I must be going crazy, I. SWEAR when I answered this question it was asking the opposite, how important it was to the women that the men have a job...
And i thought eating every day and have a roof over our head are the reasons why we get up every morning for work.
I completely agree with this, even if I didn't have to work I still would.
@Unit1 that was my meaning of ‘contributing to a household and community’. By working, you support yourself, pay taxes. Etc. If you don’t work, you have to rely on government assistance or other people.
It's not impossible for a man to be the sole breadwinner at all, it's what I do.
@englisc It would be cooler and more romantic if both of you teamed up
Why? How? We're already teamed up. I work, she looks after the children. You think it would be more romantic for her to feed the kids shitty powdered milk rather than breastfeed, and put them into daycare to be raised by complete strangers rather than their own flesh and blood? That makes no sense to me at all.
@englisc Yeah, you got that right...But still, you'll need her to help you financially one day due to the shitty economic situation these days...The aid which you'll hopefully need when your children will be old enough to care for themselves (aka in their teens)
True, by that point then we'll both work.
@englisc Amen to that!Hope you both lead a happy life together!
Do you mean to say that is the case right now... you have experienced it before... or never before?
I'm in this situation currently. I'm getting out of it as soon I can.
oh interesting... have a questionso he plays video games all day? how old is he... like 30 Ish my age or 40 Ish more your age?do you find the video games are taking away his desire to get accomplishments in the real world because the video games are giving artificial accomplishments like finishing a level for example?
He's 42 with no motivation in life.
So are the games creating no motivation or the games are just a way of coping with the lack of motivation...
Oh, my condolence. It's so sad, when you push these people like c'mon, shake up, do something! The world's so exciting outside! And nothing happens.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
What if he is actively job searching?
That would be pretty cool.
Extremely rare to the point where it's negligible due to her peers not doing the same.
What does it matter what her peers do?
Sigh.Floyd Merriweather is the highest paid athelete, only two people have made more than him: Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan.So how many of these types are there? 3. Now how likely is it that YOU would have a chance to date these types? Zero. Now do you see why it's negligible? Her peers, the overwhelming majority, are in the lower income brackets. It's math.
I don't understand your point in the context of the question which is "is it important if she has a job?" and I'm asking, what if she doesn't need a job? What if she spends all day doing whatever the hell she wants because she can afford it on her own terms without working?Are you saying that's negligible because you'll never meet her?
Lmao @ guys not understanding hypothetical questions.If I was a guy I’d be hella impressed and I would ask her to teach me : D
I have never met her and according to math it's highly unlikely I ever will share a mutual attraction with a woman like this. Same with most men due to her peers not being that type.
Well there you go. I'm that woman.
I find it hard to believe there is a mutual attraction. Also I don't have any faith anyone is who they say they are online until I meet them in person. You could be Chester Cheetah for all anyone here knows.
No of course not, but you're saying how unlikely I am to exist, yet I know I do.
I think you're misunderstanding. You don't exist because you aren't a part of my life. If she is intangible then I am still going to lump you into that category. Yeah, you exist in real life, just not my life and it's either she's not attracted to me or I'm not attracted to her. Semantics.
I concur. It made me laugh cause it is true.
Yeah, if you blow your money on bullshi.
@englisc you don't make any sense. what i earn now is not enough to support someone else.
@englisc - Actually, i retract my statement, you were right. I looked up the living wage on the amount I earn now and it is feasible for me to take care of both myself and another adult assuming we do not spend too much. Thank you
Get a real job, sabretooth lmao
@kjdkjkdj13bdi98r3d2. What and lose the free time have now? I think I've lost enough thank you
housewife at 21 though... that sucks lolyou haven't even lived yet and you're already stuck at home when you've been stuck at home for 21 years already lol... ouch
@TripleAce well, why not, it's also a hard work
@more2life What made youdecide to be a housewife at your age?
@TripleAce Or perhaps the problem today is that people think that's too young of an age because they themselves haven't grown up yet.
@engliscfor sure... Housewife is a hard work if you own an estate, for instance =D
@TripleAce are you insane? My life is great. I've always wanted this. I'm 21 and I've already gotten my dream job... What have you accomplished?
I'm a house wife too :)
@MysteriousDarkness My principals, instincts and world view.
So with a whole world out there... you are to say that you came from mommas house and straight to becoming a mom yourself without ever having been in the world by yourself to explore...ya sure lol... I don't buy it but if you are happy then sure because those are minimal life goals... but I guess that's why women still get paid less and stuff... cause they aren't as determined as men
@TripleAce thats her life, stop telling her how she should live her life and do what the sheep do.
@TripleAce And what pray tell do you mean by "haven't even lived yet"? Are suggesting that I need to spend a decade acquiring STDs and broken hearts before I'm allowed to experience thr greatest joy of my life? Do I need to get wasted at keggers and pass out and be gangrxped before I've "lived" in your eyes?
@Warmapplecrumble lol.. woah there.. hahah at her defence.. cutewell sometimes it's not their choice.. sometimes it's the guy they are with that is pushing this on herbut sure anyone can do whatever they want... I was just wondering at 21 it's pretty damn early to be a housewife lol
no... but at least get through your prime years... before making such big steps.. because you're going to change many times before you reach 30 you are still in your prime...that was more for back in the 1800's when life span was only 50 years.. and people got married by 16 or something..
@TripleAce Or do you perhaps mean I need to be a hungry, single waitress serving complete strangers rather than serving my husband? Pushing papers for people who couldn't care less whether I live or die instead of pushing a vacuum to keep my home clean?
lol... not at all... I guess we aren't going to ever know since you'll never get the chance now really right.. and I think that's the point lol... if you ended up here after that's fine.. but to never give yourself the chance... I think that's selling yourself shortbut housewife is fine then... lol no biggie... as Long as you are happyI have no quarrels :)
@TripleAce I've realised you either work for lots of men that sexually abuse you or try to rape you, or you work for one man. You make the choice.Women don't tell the truth. But I'll tell you I've been to work and what happens there isn't work.
@TripleAce There is something to be said for growing together, becoming who we are going to be together. Women that marry older are less likely to be happy in marriage for that reason, they are already set in their ways. Stuck in selfish mode. I didn't want to become that.
@Warmapplecrumble humm.. interesting perspective.. and I think you are mostly right herebut if you have the drive... never stop :) you can achieve amazing things even as a women of course
"There is something to be said for growing together, becoming who we are going to be together"actually ya... I do agree with that completely... good pointgrowing together is so important and valuable...how many kids so far?
@TripleAce thanks :)
@TripleAce Pregnant with our first right now. Very happy and plan to have at least 4.
@Warmapplecrumble That is true, an more people are learning that especially since that whole "metoo" hashtag started.
I know a girl I'm talking too and I think she wants to be a stay at home wife lol...im not sure how I feel about that though...what were your reasons to begin with? why did you choose this? just one reason is enough
@more2life its very sad... but I am glad people are being open about it.
@TripleAce Because traditional marriage makes women the happiest. Women are more depressed now than ever in history. So are men by the way, male suicide rates are through the roof in modern times. The one thing that has changed the most about the way people live if the family dynamic. It's so important. I don't think all the depression going around is due to modern jobs, architecture, technology, etc. Humans are highly social beings and family is the root of our social development, when that foundation is broken, all else is unstable.
@TripleAce I find it strange that you think that someone should waste their prime years doing things other than raising a family - your prime years are the best time to start one. Past 30 your fertility starts to decline, as does your energy. Then if the woman is a career woman she works up until then, and then she has to put it on hold for a few years which makes no sense. Unless she puts her kids straight into daycare and has strangers raise them rather than raising them herself, which also makes no sense.
@englisc waste? that is a subjective term in this contextif she never got the chance to explore her potential... isn't that a waste? I mean what if she had the potential to figure out the cure for cancer or at least be a part of that...that is a very rewarding and 'unwasteful' life id say its not a waste to be a housewife.. But I do firmly believe she is capable of more , that's all...and by 30 she have had earned at least 10 years of income to put aside for when she stops working to stay home...again, hardly a wastewhat is a waste is never taking the chance to find your true potential and locking yourself in a very simple task for the rest of your life...
@TripleAce What if her true potential is to be a good mother? Many career women lose out on that too. If her goal is mainly to raise a family then her goal should be to be the best Mother she can be and that's certainly not a simple task. As more2life mentioned one of the reasons so many people are fucked up nowadays is because the family unit and family values have been eroded, and perhaps too many people do see it as a simple ask, which is why they see no issue with sending their kids to daycare to be raised by strangers while they slave away at some job to be "more than just a Mother" and to "find their potential".
@englisc maybeBut what im saying is that one can enjoy the fruits of bothWhos to say she can't be the best stay at home mom at 27 She will be much more mature. More experienced to raise a child and better suited to provide for her child tooAll at the same time giving her soul some searching. Cause she needs that tooWhat happens with younger mothers often times is they get a crisis during their later years cause they didn't do anything their whole lives but stay home 21 just seems young for that lol cause she can get out there and then do the stay at home thing later. She has so much timeBut lock it in now is the questionAnd i think that has to do with the guy wanting it too and her just not getting the chance to explore a little bit
@more2life Okay you are a stay at home wife before most your age are done with college. Do you have any children?
@englisc Bother my parents have worked my whole life You do not nerd to be a stay at home parent to be wonderful. My parents supported me doing sports, scouting etc. Sundays were family day, went on a lot of vacations, taught me important stuff etc.
@TripleAce I think part of that regret, and the ideas you have actually, are the feminist idea that for a woman to be of any worth she has to behave like a man, have a career and earn a lot of money. The role of Motherhood has been devalued as a result of this, and whereas women of the past (and more traditional women such as more2life) would find fulfilment in spending their time raising their children instead they're taught that they should find fulfilment in raising money and material things. It's pretty sad in my opinion. Also as has already been mentioned it doesn't make them happy, more women are on antidepressant meds than ever. In countries where women work less and spend more time at home with the kids that isn't the case, they report higher levels of happiness. You mention women who have a crisis after staying hime - maybe it's true although I've never heard of that - but there are definitely plenty of career women who regret not having any children. I know a few.
@MysteriousDarkness For some it turns out ok, for others it doesn't. Many people talk about the benefits of putting children into daycare, and there are some, but they never talk about the negatives which in my opinion outweigh the positives. In fact I'd say that the rise in mental health issues like depression and anxiety have a lot to do with those people having been raised in daycare. Issues like these have skyrocketed since the 50s when more kids were raised at home. My girlfriend worked in quite a few nurseries too and refuses to work in them because of how bad they are, and would never put our kids into them because of the things she's seen.
@englisc You think all daycares are bad. Not all single parents have someone they trust right around the corner to watch their child or children. What are they suppose to do? Not all couples can afford to have someone not working or making enough money that would be considered a
@englisc substantial contribution. On top of that not everyone understands investing money or the stock market.
@MysteriousDarkness Some are probably good, but even then there are negatives to it. For example studies showed that children left in daycare for more than 20 hours a week often show the same behavioural symptoms as abandoned children. They often tend to have strange views on children's behaviour too e. g. if a child is crying for his Mother (or other things) they see it as attention seeking or something like that so they just ignore the kid. Stuff like that damages them in ways most people don't know. In fact most modern parenting techniques and things people today think are just common sense can be damaging. If you end up a single parent or whatever, you've gotta do what you've gotta do, but a kid is best raised in a traditional family.
@englisc Some people have no choice but to use daycare. You said some are probably good then said nothing but negative stuff about daycares. I will tell you a real life scenario and you tell me what they are suppose to do. I will call her Jill. Jill is a single mother because she found out after the birth of her child her fiancé cheated on her. Her parents a dead from a horrible accident caused by someone texting. Her maternal grandparents and paternal grandparents are all dead from natural causes. Her nearest family member or relative lives three hours away. The friends she does have work schedule and hers mean they will be at work at the same time. What is someone like her suppose to do?
@MysteriousDarkness That's just a fucked up situation. Some people may have no choice, that doesn't change the fact that the kids are better off being raised in a traditional family. What I meant on the nursery thing is that some daycare workers might be good, they might be just like my girlfriend and they might be really passionate about giving the kids the best care they can give, but even then that doesn't change the fact that they aren't with their parents which is what causes those issues.
@mysteriousdarkness I have worked in a nursery and I know people who work in the nursery.I can tell you the horror. The practioners shout at the children. They always eat their food. They teach them bad manners. They drag them.When they cry they do not care. Their are some psychopathic children in the nursery too. No one cares. Once a child locked me in the garden shed and said I should die. I was so scared. Since that moment I decided fuc* this and never ever tried to go in that field. Many times I've heard staff getting sacked for sexual abuse. Some of these nurseries are very posh and high class.
@Warmapplecrumble how come you've had the worst experience in every industry though lolHahah its like bad luck cause i don't think everyone experiences such things in nursery and abuse in the workplace this much
@Warmapplecrumble or maybe they just dont tell me lol
@TripleAce I used to job hob a lot lOl, and I've done really odd jobs from working in construction to being a enforcement officer to being a nursery assistant. Lmao. I think house wife has been best lOl.Maybe my life has too much drama.
@Warmapplecrumble lololololYa huh I thought you hated men 😛
@TripleAce I should after all the abuse I suffered but I don't. Because not all men are bad.
@Warmapplecrumble just another person mentioing only the bad. Its like saying all cops are bad when it is not true. Sorry that you only worked in bad ones. I know some where kids love it and the people are awesome. You do not know everyone's situation so do not act like you do.
@MysteriousDarkness do you work in a nursery or know anyone close that works in a nursery?
@MysteriousDarkness I was sure I mentioned previously that I am pregnant with our first child. We also waited 6 months after our wedding to begin trying to conceive, because we did not want people to assume that an unexpected pregnancy was our "only reason for marriage". We were very careful to make sure that we could not be accused of such a thing. This was a planned pregnancy, after waiting for marriage for sex and we are very proud of that.
For me it's important that my girlfriend has a job cuz I'm tired of dating jobless women