What's your opinion on what this woman says about nice guys?

[aa180]

I think what she said is pretty accurate lol. I even remember reading an eHarmony article that basically made the exact same point: assholes benefit in the short run, but nice guys benefit in the long run when women finally decide they want to settle down (usually after they 'have their fun' with asshole guys first and get heart broken in the end).

[coachTanthony]

Ha Ha Ha what she is saying is totally correct. When women get older they "settle" and that is the correct term for the "nice guy"

So if you are a "nice guy" in your 20's you might have to wait until all the BAD BOYS use and abuse them first before you are selected.

[MzAsh]

Smart women never mess with the jerks, asshole, or bad boys. They take a few years to focus on themselves, raise their own value and go straight for the good men who are already lined up for them. At least that’s how I did it.

[englisc]

This is what Rollo Tomassi calls "The Ephiphany Phase".

It has to do with the female dual-mating strategy. This is really where people get the "alpha" and "beta" stuff from. They get too into the definitions but really it's about the kinds of guys women go for, how differently they act towards each of those guys, and that's all it is. It has fuck all to do with wolves or heirarchies or anything like that.

The dual mating strategy is something that women evolved with, and it has to do with what they really need from a guy in order to successfully raise healthy children. They need two things:
1) good genes
2) long term stability, support, perhaps provision

It's not black and white, a guy can provide both of those, but very often it's either one or the other.

The "alpha" is the guy with good genes - looks, confidence, assertiveness, socially and sexually dominant behaviour. Masculine looks and behaviour basically. With the bad boy vs nice guy divide, this is the "sexy" bad boy.

The "beta" is the nice guy with the qualities of a good long term provider husband - a good job, good money, empathetic, highly agreeable, predictable, a little (or sometimes very) passive. Often not as masculine in looks or behaviour as the "bad boy", so therefore not as sexually exciting.

In their "Party Years" as Rollo puts it, usually between 18-27, women look mainly for the "alpha" traits. Those are the guys they're the most genuinely attracted to on a primal level. They usually date a bunch of these guys, and they try to hold them down. They're usually unsuccessful because these guys tend to be players.

They reach their "Epiphany Phase" at around 27-30, just as this girl mentions in the video. At this point, especially if they want to start a family, they're looking to settle down. They've already tried and failed so many times to keep the "alphas" around, but they couldn't. Instead then they decide to give the "betas" a chance now.

The reason he calls this the "Ephiphany Phase" is because it's at this point where they start coming out with this stuff about how they've finally "come to their senses" and are done with dating "the wrong types of guys". They now finally realised that the nice guys are the better men.

At least that's what they want to sell men on. Some of them are aware that it's bullshit, others genuinely believe this.

But it is bullshit, and the men who are naive enough to be fooled by this are the guys who end up in sexless marriages, getting cheated on, or eventually being divorced and taken to the cleaners.

They end up in sexless marriages because the woman doesn't actually believe that they're the better men, she settles for them. The guys who say that after marriage sex drops off? This is precisely why that happens. Again not all of the women realise this, some of them just don't feel like having sex that much and they don't know why, so they chalk it up to a mismatch in sex drives. Or the sex is just not enjoyable for them, kind of like a chore.

They get cheated on as a result of the above - with alphas, the guys they're naturally attracted to. All of these guys into the cuckold thing recently? They understand this on a subconscious level, and in order to deal with it they eroticise it and learn to get off on it instead. That's literally what it is. Beta nice guy provider = cuck (long term stability). Alpha bad boy lover = the other guy (good sex). When she cheats behind his back it's just that without his knowledge.

Or they get divorced if she isn't a cheater as she falls out of love with him.

This isn't a given of course, but it's more likely to happen to those guys. That's why most guys even if they don't understand the above instinctively do not want to be the guy she's speaking about in the video. They know it's bullshit even if they can't put it into words.

[cth96190]

By the time that women "get that asshole phase out of our systems" a lot (I suspect most) of the 'nice guys' have left the field.
Today, they become MGTOW.
During their teens and 20s women looked at the nice guys as though they were dog shit on their shoe.
This may surprise some women, but men remember those rejections (especially the nasty ones), the ridicule, the mind games and being used by princess bitches.
In some cases, they also remember the false allegations.
When the only female behaviour that they have seen has been that of a reprehensible human being, what image of women do you think would have formed in minds of those good men?
After the women turn 30 and it is time to get off the carousel, they expect the nice guys to be waiting around and then fall at female feet with gratitude.
News update.
By that time a lot of the good men are so filled with anger, resentment and bitterness toward the female population, as a whole, that they are no longer interested.
They really would rather jerk off, than accept a consolation prize from one of those former carousel riders.

[simplyvisual2014]

Yeah I'd say she was spot on with that. Most young girls/women (teens - early twenties) tend to go for the "bad boy" types, but as they mature start considering settling down with a nice guy. Sure it may seem like they're just settling for the "leftovers", but it's that they don't want to settle down when they're young; they want to be adventurous and dangerous. They're not necessarily thinking about their future at that point. That's how you know they're still young and immature. Once women start to grow up, their taste in men matures and they want a serious relationship.

[Anonymous]

Nice guys get the expired garbage that used to be young and attractive and only dated "bad boys".
Females look for the "nice guys" when they discover their looks are fading and society won't bend over backwards for them like it used to and males won't be as easy to get as they use too, so they look for a pathetic moral janitor to clean up their whorish past by acting like they are now worthy of some well established hardworking male who they would have ignored in the past, but now likely has money and can get them through the rest of their life (or at least get them to a divorce where she can take half of his shit) either way she can get dumpy as fuck once he puts a ring on it and she doesn't care because she is set.

[FunkyDrummer70]

And this is why she is gonna be heartbroken all the time wondering why she can't have a good meaningful relationship!

[boggboss]

When mist nice guys way to dating is by saying I'm a nice guy at some point you gotta think I'm not so sure about that one

[Alexandrubaschet08]

if the girls don't date or maried me, before i make 30 yare old i will infertilizate myself and accept to be forever alone.

[cheapshotbob]

so she is saying pretty much girls are sluts until there older then you get some STD when they are ready to play nice? HA and i thought i was bad

[AJC997]

Kinda true but I’m not sure. Most “nice” people are boring. I know I’m not nice cause I have flaws.

[Anonymous]

Women use men for whatever they need them for at the time.
Guys need to wake up and stop thinking women are so innocent.
They can sure manipulate us.
It's like a natural function for them.
Like monkey branching.

[Anonymous]

We REALLY need to stop making stupid people famous.

[esotericstory]

Women get horny from power. Only be a nice guy if it gives you power.

[Anonymous]

ALPHA FUCKS
=
BETA BUCKS

be whores when they are young

when they get old
settle down for money

and cheat on him while he doesn't know

[ravagesavage]

Nice guys are just weird guys in general

[pigoat]

This is why we can't have world peace

[Thatsamazing]

Doesn't everyone already know this?

[Lunatic1]

It is kinda true, honestly.

[Anonymous]

I'm a "nice" guy. I don't want marriage, or kids