Considering guys are pretty passable now, should men say that have transitioned on dating apps or would it be unfair to make them claim their gender?

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This could also apply to girls that pass as guys. Who should get the courtesy the person passing as another gender or the person looking for that gender? And how does that change if someone is looking for kids vs someone that does not want any kids?

Considering guys are pretty passable now, should men say that have transitioned on dating apps or would it be unfair to make them claim their gender?

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mattdzz | 438 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Explorer

It's pretty simple. If you are born male, you're a man, no matter what you look like or how much you mutilate your genitals into something resembling a vagina. If you're born a female, you're a woman, no matter what appendage is attached to you via medical procedures.
This isn't a courtesy, it's 99.9% of people who are looking for someone of the opposite sex, which is the same damn thing as gender, looking for members of the opposite gender when they select "Looking for women," or "Looking for Men." For gay people, they'll be looking for the same sex. Easy as that without all this new age bullshit about redefining simple, foundation words/ concepts.

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Moonchild714

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What about those who are born with both ovaries and a penis and parents have to decide which gender to choose, but the person doesn't agree. This happens more than people think.
mattdzz

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@Moonchild714 Oh, you mean the one in ten million? Yea, let's reform society, language, and everything else because of an extreme rarity.
It's 0.13% that are even labeled as "intersex," which just means they have ambiguous genitalia, even less so for those who possess both reproductive systems (or aspects of each). Which is based on a study of only 14,000, which hardly can be assumed to translate to 7 billion, let alone completely refute the earlier research that indicated an unlikelihood of 4-5 times higher than that.
You don't form social norms on the extreme exceptions.
Moonchild714

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I live in a city of less than a Million and have 25 clients that were born Intersex with both Sex Organs. Statistics aren't always reliable. Every Societal Change started with the Unknown, Rarity, Unlikely!!! So yes this too... But this is from a person with an open mind.
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mattdzz

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@Moonchild714 Oh yes, we must be either open minded, believing that facts are relative, or to believe that irrefutable, non-fluid truths can exist, and even rooted in biology, and be closed minded, correct?

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Moonchild714

What about those who are born with both ovaries and a penis and parents have to decide which gender to choose, but the person doesn't agree. This happens more than people think.

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mattdzz

@Moonchild714 Oh, you mean the one in ten million? Yea, let's reform society, language, and everything else because of an extreme rarity.
It's 0.13% that are even labeled as "intersex," which just means they have ambiguous genitalia, even less so for those who possess both reproductive systems (or aspects of each). Which is based on a study of only 14,000, which hardly can be assumed to translate to 7 billion, let alone completely refute the earlier research that indicated an unlikelihood of 4-5 times higher than that.
You don't form social norms on the extreme exceptions.

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Moonchild714

I live in a city of less than a Million and have 25 clients that were born Intersex with both Sex Organs. Statistics aren't always reliable. Every Societal Change started with the Unknown, Rarity, Unlikely!!! So yes this too... But this is from a person with an open mind.

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mattdzz

@Moonchild714 Oh yes, we must be either open minded, believing that facts are relative, or to believe that irrefutable, non-fluid truths can exist, and even rooted in biology, and be closed minded, correct?

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JackSmy

Guru

I think that people should be honest about things like that, but, if she was so much like a woman that I couldn't tell, and we had a few dates, I would be fine with that, but probably laugh, and smile, and still like her, if we shared a lot in common!
I would hope that she would say something, before the first time we were going to have sex!!

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mrfoox | 274 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Influencer

Considering there's still a lot of hate and violence directed towards trans people, they do not have to state that in their bio. I think majority of them will say it before things get serious. Outing themselves to the wrong people can have deadly consequences, so I think many need to know that their date are cool

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Stockton

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Sorry to say not outing themselves to certain people can end things permanently. If a guy from my generation went out on a date with a girl who ended up being a guy oods are they would never be seen or heard from ever again. I think most people could give a shit less if this person is a or a girl or inbetween the problem comes when you use that to treat them with zero respect going on a date as a girl when you are a guy is just about chicken shit. And whatever bad shit goes down is on the person lying.
mrfoox

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@Stockton they don't end up being a guy. Sex and gender isn't the same thing. Some people were born woman but as they grow they realize that it's not who they want to be. I will respect them and call them how they want to be called. It's not lying, they are a man or woman if they identify as one. Some want to do surgery to change their sexual parts, some don't or haven't been able to yet. You don't seem to have much respect or knowledge about the struggles trans people go through. It's never too late to learn, but I'm not going to argue with you on here

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Stockton

Sorry to say not outing themselves to certain people can end things permanently. If a guy from my generation went out on a date with a girl who ended up being a guy oods are they would never be seen or heard from ever again. I think most people could give a shit less if this person is a or a girl or inbetween the problem comes when you use that to treat them with zero respect going on a date as a girl when you are a guy is just about chicken shit. And whatever bad shit goes down is on the person lying.

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mrfoox

@Stockton they don't end up being a guy. Sex and gender isn't the same thing. Some people were born woman but as they grow they realize that it's not who they want to be. I will respect them and call them how they want to be called. It's not lying, they are a man or woman if they identify as one. Some want to do surgery to change their sexual parts, some don't or haven't been able to yet. You don't seem to have much respect or knowledge about the struggles trans people go through. It's never too late to learn, but I'm not going to argue with you on here

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HedwigInABox | 81 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Xper 6

Transgender people wheter women or men should tell their Date that they are transgender. If they don't to writte it in their Profile, they could just mentioned it in the conversation. But they should mention it before it get's serious.

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Stockton | 194 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Xper 6

There is no way that guy will pass for a girl. If everyone is honest about who and what they what they want and need then have a blast no one has any reason to be upset. But if I was told I was going out with a woman and this ugly ass dude who is trying to look like a woman and who said he was a woman showed up I would probably beat him to death. BE HONEST ABOUT WHO YOU ARE. That way no one gets hurt

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SirRexington | 1.9K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Master

"hi, my name is Zer Rexington. I'm actually a pansexual gender fluid muckraker who loves reggae and so I'm transitioning my skin color to be darker. If you would like to meet up please follow me at ____".

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Lliam | 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Master

They are completely dishonest not to divulge that they are trans. I'd be totally pissed if I spent time on them only to find out later.

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GoodGuyBreakingBad | 5.6K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Master

You got be careful who you date on dating apps
cause i believe Transgenders do try to pull one over
on Men who are Straight and only into real Women only

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Flower7 | 1.4K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Master

I think the first pic could be mistaken for a woman, but the person in the second pic still looks a lot like a man...

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Stockton

+1 y
Sorry not even on a Bangkok drunk would either of those photos convenience me that he was a she.

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Stockton

Sorry not even on a Bangkok drunk would either of those photos convenience me that he was a she.

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LordJesus5Ever

Xper 5

If my date had a dick I'd be pissed. Especially after investing time in a possible relationship which is a dead end. Also the bottom one is not a pass. The top is only borderline because of the filter.

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Answer 18

esotericstory

Guru

Men should use face filters to increase their potential to date girls on dating apps. If girls find it creepy then women wearing looks altering make up is the creepiest thing ever.

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Answer 19

Anonymous

Obviously that person needs to tell in advance that, s/he was born different gender...

I would consider it as fraud otherwise. I some countries it is even low, to tell other people in advance about it...

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Opinion Owner

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Law - stupid autocorrect...

In some countries it is legal obligation to tell that you are not born with gender you look like or trying to represent. Not even going to talk about Islamic countries POV on it...

Answer 20

Opinion Owner

Law - stupid autocorrect...

In some countries it is legal obligation to tell that you are not born with gender you look like or trying to represent. Not even going to talk about Islamic countries POV on it...

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Liam_Hayden

Guru

Dressing like the other does not change the genetics.

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Answer 22

Anonymous

I think there should be a trans option on dating sites. As for passable that's up to the individual

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Shamalien

+1 y
that makes the most sense to me honestly

Answer 23

Shamalien

that makes the most sense to me honestly

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Exorcist_Rampage

Yoda

People should admit what their birth sex and is.

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NorthwestRider | 397 opinions shared on Dating topic.

Guru

They can do anything they want to do

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SuccessfulHornDog | 4K opinions shared on Dating topic.

Master

it would be unfair

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Answer 27

higga

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No they could say

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