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saying it doesn't make it true
That's not how it works. Some people just have bad facial features and they aren't fixable without surger
@Games_ Point is to minimize unattractiveness and maximize attractiveness. Many ugly people don't put even the smallest effort in it or they stop doing that at some point.
Those people are just being unattractive but there are actually some people who have no good facial features
@Games_ they can still compensate for that in one way or another.
Can you ping me in private i wanna ask you something
But... you didn't mention money 😲🤔🤔🤔
@Unit1 yeah money isn’t necessary.
Thats a very cynical viewpoint. Where did younget this from?
@Tomsta Society. A woman knows within seconds if she wants to bang a guy or not. If the guy is unattractive for the unrealistic standards of women today his only hope is to make more money and wait for the first desperate woman who has hit the wall to ask him about a long term relationship. It's all the 30+ women you can quickly find on tinder for example and all of them have introductions such as "Ive had my fun", "Im not here to play games.", "Im looking for something serious", "Im a single mother. I don't have time for games."
Then you're looking at the wrong demographic. Granted yes there are women like that but there are sensible ones out there below 30 but they are normally hidden away and aren't on places like tinder (which by the way is mainly still a hookup app)
@Tomsta I have travelled from one corner of Europe to the other for both entertainment and business. I have met hundreds of women for different reasons and have hooked up with plenty of them aged 20 to 53 which is my record. You didn't even define what a sensible woman is. No matter where you go and where you search, female nature is universal. In her 20's she wants to bang the hottest guy. In her 30's when the looks fade away she needs to find another way to lock down a man. hat is when marriage and kids come in. Check mate on the man who will not be careful enough to avoid this trap or be too thirsty and desperate to fall for her. The man a woman fucks and the man a woman marries are two different men. You can pick the slut that you find in every night club or the virgin that doesn't even know what a dick looks like. Both of them will treat you the exact same way. Looks>Money>Status
"I have met hundreds of women for different reasons and have hooked up with plenty of them aged 20 to 53 which is my record"There in lies your problem, not saying i have an issue with you sleeping around you do you. However that selection of women is of course going to bias your outlook; they want one thing (same as you) to get laidDo you really thing the women with heads on their shoulders, decent long term career aspirations etc. would be in places like where you met these women (i'm going out on a limb and saying you met them at club, bars etc.) you don't generally find keepers in pubs and barsIf you just want sex, that's fine be honest about it. But don't fish in the same waters then complain when you can't find a keeper
@Tomsta Im not going to bars and pubs mate XD. I have much more interesting hobbies and friends in almost every European country that have introduced me to women. I mean real life friends, not just online friends. Neither do I complain about not finding a keeper. A Latvian friend of mine insists that he can find me a wife in his town because "you have so many things that women want." Im not going to do that. I just told you that both kinds of women will treat you the exact same way. you're just a utility for her. A means to an end. As for her career, I couldn't care less. Does she have a sexy body and face? Thats all I care above all.
Women find narcissism to be one of the most attractive traits though, what exactly do you think a "good" personality means?www.sciencedirect.com/.../S0191886913012245When women say they just want a good personality, it means nothing. They just project their ideals onto whatever guy they find physically attractive.
Approach is in how they project themselves. It's the unspoken message you are saying with your body/mind/spirit that says, I feel good, approach me. If the person has trust issues, fear, etc... it comes out... people see that. Some of the worst will approach and the nicest won't even try.
I don't think unattractive men can get an attractive woman unless he is rich af.
That's a lie
Men have it easier if anything. It's not easy but it's just easier than being a ugly female lol.
I would just a tiny bit easier. But don’t forget that women have makeup.
But make up doesn't work for every women and men have working out so yeah. We can get a good body a d that's it
Make up does work. There are some girls who can go from a 4 to 8 out of 10 with makeup.
But a ugly guy with a hot girl is such a common media cliche
We can get girls with personality and status
No. Girls like to lie , for the most part. You see girls on here saying that money is not a big deal to them, looks aren't a big deal to them. Looks do matter. I know it does to me.
That's why you see shorter guys always complaining about being single
What reason do they have to lie online. I don't know why any girl would lie about what they like online. Looks barely matter. I dont know any girl who picks a guy based off looks alone
dude, looks matter to most people. I know a few guy friends who have no problem dating less attractive girls. But if its a mating process, its gonna matter (to most folks). You need physical attraction in order to mate with someone.
That doesn't apply to some people so it's already false. And u just said u know a few people who would date less attractive people. Looks aren't everything. Some people it is, some people it isn't
Well obviously for mating, hooking up looks matter cuz people just want to be horny, but when were talking relationships, men got it easier.All we have to do is have confidence and play the numbers game while upping our values, even works for a ugly guy.Girls can spend all that time on make up and everything and getting their nails done, but no ones gonna hit on em if they still look ugly. They could score but it's probably with guys that they dont want
Society likes to lie to you that looks don't matter, it DOES. Your amazing personality don't matter if nobody wants to look at you. Confidence helps but it doesn't help you get too far. I have rejected guys with confidence due to their looks. if you're ugly, you will typically only get ugly partners. Upon a rare occasion where an ugly dates a good looking person, looks just don't matter as much to them. For some people, looks do not matter.
Beauty is also in the eye of the beholder. Just because you think someone look average, it doesn't mean they never get hit on. Someone unattractive to you may be hot to someone else. So you can't really judge
Even if society lies, on the internet ur full anonymous so people dont really lie here. Yeah I guess there's girls who want attractive guys only but guys have it better if anything.For starters we can just up our value, money, power status, physique. Looks matter to an extent because people obviously aren't gonna want something deformed. But unattractive guys getting girls are so much more common than the other way around.And it can't be rare if it continously happens to said person.there's plenty of terrible of terrible looking celeberties who constantly get girls over and over who look better than them so it's not really rare. Maybe just uncommon.I'm sorry but a lot of what your saying isn't true.
I think its an overhyped stereotype that looks don't matter to girls. Try asking a girl if she would date a short guy.
Looks actually matter a big extent to me. I wouldn't last very long with a guy that I'm not attracted to. At the bars I go to, its only the attractive guys that hit on girls. Ugly guys check me out the most but they never try to hit on me cuz they know they will just get rejected.
Well I guess, but u can't really speak for all girls. If were speaking off experience I can say I know 2 girls who are like insanely attractive but have dated guys they were unattractive to.Being short does have a disadvantage but it's not as terrible as people make it to be.Most short guys are just overreacting, there are girls who barely care about height and some girls only want a height difference.And bars are obviously so look oriented, it's just hooking up culture.Those ugly guys just have a lack of confidence, yeah they aren't gonna get every girl they meet but confidence, personality and value will just up their chances. I dont know many guys who will date a girl off her personality so most ugly girls are just fucked.
Even so, most girls find a fuck ton of guys unattractive so I wonder how you girls even sort that out if you guys really care much about looks
girls care more about height than face. Its just a stereotype that looks don't matter to women. Myself along with many other women also need a certain good level of physical attraction in order to feel satisfied in a relationship. You can't really generalize all women that way.
there are guys that fuck girls that are unattractive too. Guys would fuck anything with breasts and ass.
But for me, I initially had a very hard time losing my virginity cuz none of the guys I tried having sex with were hot enough. I only could lose my virginity to an above average looking guy.
Yeah at the end of the day, none of these things are like 100%. Its all just luck and chances.
Well doesn't that just debunk what u said before? u said you care more for look, but u tried to lose ur virginity to guys who were not hot enough for you. What made u wanna even consider giving those guys who werent hot enough a chance?
because its hard to get the hot guys. do you realize how many women throw themselves at hot men?
Well u still attempted to have sex with guys you found not that hot.
because I couldn't get anybody else. but if looks didn't matter to me, I would've lost my virginity to less attractive guys.
In the past when I was younger, I was told that it was shallow to go for looks so I tried going out with less attractive guys. But now, I've always secretly had a huge longing for a handsome guy. I never really acted upon it but now I'm wearing makeup and approaching the hot ones.
Yes but I said women have it harder. Why aren't these hot guys throwing themselves at you?
I see, I'm pretty ugly but I did have some good moments with women
because hot guys have tons of women throwing themselves at them. they don't need to go for a below average or average chick like me. I've had a few handsome guys be attracted to me in the past though.
I know on average most girls find most guys unattractive so I dont know how you girls who consider looks can manage that.
Ugly guys never hit on women. I've had tons of ugly guys think im amazingly beautiful but never once did any of them utter a word to them.
Yeah but hot guys can't just really get girls like that. I mean yeah they can, but some women actually consider them unattractive once they start showing signs they are trash. Some women they dont care. How ever, I feel very attractive women have it easy since men are desperate
Well I always see girls here complaining that ugly guys hit on them
do u realize hot men get laid all the time? many of the players are very attractive dudes. Ugly dudes can't afford to become players which is why they always pretend to be such nice guys and tell women that they are more loyal than the attractive guys.
That's why u hear women calling men who hit on them "creeps". U never hear a woman calling a hot guy who hits on her a "creep"
Lol yeah hot guys never get called creep. Ugly guys have it hard but can still manage. I mean I'm pretty ugly and I somehow get lucky all the time
You're probably not ugly, just below average attractiveness.
Its uncommon to see a truly ugly person. Nobody ever wants to look at them. I can't imagine who would wanna date them.
Had 2 girls obsses over me in 8th grade. 2 liked me off the bat in 6th grade.Had a girl in 9th grade just flat out like meAnother girl called me ugly but I ended up dating her 9th grade.Had a girl who use to call me ugly start liking me in 11th grade...Another girl I knew over a year liked me in 12th grade.And I'm pretty ugly. I mean if u saw me ud probably think the same but I get lucky so much cuz my value is decent. I know if I was a girl, none of this would be happening to me since I'd have to focus so much on my overall look
Well a truly ugly person will definitely have it difficult. But out of these truly truly ugly people from both genders, ur more likely gonna see a super ugly guy with a girl if he gets insanely lucky. I mean I kinda know examples
you're luckier than most ugly dudes. Most of the ugly guys I know of have little to no action at all. My former best friend's boyfriend had a really ugly friend who struggled to get a girlfriend cuz he was really really ugly. He couldn't find a girlfriend so they referred him to me. He hoped that I would take him cuz nobody else wanted him. But I flat out refused.
I have a coworker who is ugly but she's married with kids. She has a wonderful unbeatable personality though. If you're ugly, you can make it up by having a great personality. But it doesn't work on me.
I guess I am. Thing is I notice girls actually want to get to know me when I actually do something.This year a girl who's pretty good looking came up to me first and sometimes looks when I'm working out asking me to work out with her. I already know this girl was hitting on me throughout the entire time.But I'm pretty ugly so my value was what attracted her.Same thing happened a year ago with this other girl I barely talk to. She notices my participation in class and values my intellect so she randomly comes up to me first, and hugs me constantly. But I'm not attractive. I'm 510. U said girls care more about height than face but my height isn't anything standout for a girl to ignore my face.Thing is ugly guys can get girls, it's just a matter of luck and upping ur value.
It seems like we have different experiences that shape our opinions. I'm pretty ugly but my luck with women is pretty decent. I won't get every women but I can get some that are above my looks.
"This year a girl who's pretty good looking came up to me first and sometimes looks when I'm working out asking me to work out with her. I already know this girl was hitting on me throughout the entire time."It doesn't seem like you're ugly. If a girl is hitting on you and she has no clue what your personality is like, then she likes the way you look. Otherwise, she has no reason to come over to hit on you. If a stranger hits on you and they don't know what your personality is like, it means they like what they see. There are many average looking dudes who complain about never get approached by women.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You may think you're ugly but someone else may not. I don't think im attractive but I've had guys tell me I'm gorgeous and sexually harass me.
There was once when I was at a drug store, I was dressed in a baggy t shirt, mens shorts and ugly ratty looking shoes. My face was probably like a 3.5 out of 10. I had a guy become stared and became mesmerized by me at the drug store. A few months later, I had guys check me out as I was walking to school too, with my hair uncombed, I thought I looked like crap.
You can be the judge of that since u seem to have an idea of what an attractive guy looks like to women. It is strange ur right, stuff like that only happens to attractive guys, but I've called ugly online and irl. I'm probably significantly below average maybe but I assure u that I'm not getting women like an adonis
From my experience, if a stranger hits on you, they like what they see. Because they are not hitting you due to your personality. They have no clue what your personality is like. Women would not just hit on you for no reason. There has to be a reason.
I'm just trying to point out that not all ugly guys will have much of a problem.It is strange, I'm not attractive in the slightest but I dont have problems with women.If only u could see me to believe it lol.
Here let me message you on this and I'll let you know what I mean.
U prolly will think I'm lying when I said I have no problem with women lol
Its rare for an ugly guy to not have problems with women. Most ugly guys I know of have little to no action. You probably are not ugly. You just won't believe that beauty is in the eye of beholder
Some girls do find me ugly. Not every girl I get Is hot either. Maybe out of all of em it's just 2 or 3
if a stranger who doesn't know your personality and thinks you're ugly as fuck, why would she hit on you? for what reason? its definitely not your personality.
High T and height maybe.
I don't know you tell me, if only I could message you lol
you just said you were short though. Like I said, if a stranger approaches you, there HAS to be a reason. And its not your personality.
No I never said I was short. I said I'm 5'10. But 5'10 isn't a height that's gonna make u go "WOW"
It confuses me to nelly. I had just a few girls fall for me fast. But I'm not attractive. I'm being genuinely serious here.
5'10'' is not extremely tall. Its pretty ordinary height for a guy. Its unlikely that she is hitting on you due to high T or your height. There are tons of 5'10'' guys who never get hit on. Chances are she thinks you're attractive. You might not believe it. But beauty is in the eye of beholder.
Can I show you my photos?
I don't it matters because my opinion is not representative of all women. Remember beauty is in eye of beholder.
There are guys who think im ugly but there are some other dudes that think im attractive. I think im ugly myself but not some other dudes. they think im gorgeous.
Oh, I just wanted to know why someone like me who's ugly has good luck with women. U just seemed like a reliable source
I think you're just deluded in your own mind.
It is in the beholder but on average people find the same people attractive. So it's not entirely subjective but stil
So how can you explain why a stranger approached you if she had no reason to? that's right, you can't.
Nah ud say the same thing if u saw me. I'm actually not lying. If I was attractive I'd know off the bat
It's strange, very strange. She wasn't a stranger but I knew her from a class but we never talked until she came up to me after school randomly getting to know me
how do you explain why a stranger approached you if she had no reason to?
I'm asking this question so you can get out of your deluded mentality.
Because I'm always doing something.The one who came up to me first, I was always participating in class and I knew most of the people so my status kinda did something.And the other one probably liked my body or something, since I was working out. But my face is not something ur gonna call attractive. I have a good height at least, decent body shape but I'm kinda skinny so that doesn't stand out much and my penis is big but that doesn't matter during school.Eh yeaj
But nelly that doesn't really happen to me often.
Not all ugly folks have a hard time finding someone. I've known a few ugly women who are married. But most ugly folks get no actions. If they date, its always the unattractive folks.
Ima delete this soon but here's a brief photo of mehttp://imgur.com/a/cIrY40gNot attractive in the face but I dont have a problem. A women isn't gonna hit on me for looks. If they did I'd get hit on in fast food restaurants and other public social areas
dude, you're not that ugly. I can kinda understand why you think you're ugly. But trust me, you're definitely not the ugliest I've seen.
you're definitely on the lesser attractive side but I can't exactly place you in the ugly level.
That ugly? Mm so a little ugly. But per say since you said beauty's in the beholder would you even be attracted to me
I'm not attracted to black guys. Most folks aren't attracted to black guys, to be honest. But I know black girls love black guys. You're definitely lesser attractive side, maybe almost ugly but not definitely ugly.
Mmm I see, like I said I'm not really good looking but I have luck. I don't know what a stranger would want to look at me for. All I can think of is height
Almost ugly is enough to have problems with women if u dont up your value
Good talk, I'm gonna be off to sleep
Its possible for lesser attractive dudes to get girlfriends. Not saying ugly people can never date. I've seen a couple of married folks that are ugly
Thing is I had a decent amount of girls say I look good but that's just a confusing statement because I know I'm ugly. Girls wouldn't give me attention at a glance unless i make a effort
Well I still have decent luck with women somehow being some what ugly. All I can assume is my value helps. I know there's ugly guys who look better than me too and still can't get girls
Its what's inside that matters