1. They can be single mothers and have a job. My mother did. So they don't need or want a financial supporter. They want a partner like we all do.2. In the beginning of the relationship they won't even present you their kids! If thing become serious and ready for a long term then yes she will want you to be a father figure for the kids. Of course she will! And why would you not want that? 3. Trust me single mothers don't have time to be bored.4. Again why would you not want to be a father figure for the kids of the woman you want to spend the rest of your life with?5. Of course he can discipline the child. Being a father includes that too. Where did you get the idea that he can't? 6. She can't make you pay child support for a kid that is not yours. Relax.7. You have a really bad impression of what a fathers job is.
So your claiming then, if a person has a child and meets and forms a relationship with somebody else and that child is living with them, the childless person isn't paying out more to support the other two, bullshit unless of course your living in a fantasy where the parent pays extra for the bills, food etc to cover their half and the costs of the child while the childless person only pays their equivalent amount. In the beginning of any relationship, they don't present their kids ok but also in the beginning of a relationship most people don't show you how crazy they are either so your argument fails there too because most people don't preset their true selves in the beginning of any relationship. Again why would any real man want to be a father figure for somebody else's kids.You can't discipline the child, so your not my father had never been said by any child to a step parent and no mother has ever said my kids come first you'll have to accept that. You claim being a father, you aren't the father of that child, what bits of biology do you not understand. Sorry but the laws are quite clear if you live with a woman who had a child your liable to be on the hook for child support for that child, don't spread bullshit as there is plenty of case law and precedent set for this. I don't have a bad impression of being a father, I am one, I have a bad impression of single mothers, then again so does society given that a child of a single mother is 70% more likely to end up in prison or on drugs I'm not wrong. Basically your entire response was trying to tell me to man up and be a step father to a wot who can't make a good life choice, can't cope with the reality of her actions. Instead of sitting there playing at being a good guy why don't you try doing some research on your claims I can guarantee you'll have to change your tone.
Why would be the childless person pay for more than the one who is the biological parent? If anything they split expenses. No reason for the childless person to pay more. Besides imagine that the childless person is a women. Would you still say the same?Who say they will revel themselves as crazy? You are assuming the worst always happens.Why not? The same way a women would want to play the mother role if she marries a single father.Yes I can. As long as the biological parent gives green light to that, and they do, it can be done.I don't know about there. Here If I marry a single mother and then divorce her I have zero obligations to her kids.Is more likely doesn't mean it will happen. We are not in our grandfathers time. Today society respects them. I saw how my mother was treated by everyone and was always well.Being a single mother does't mean bad life choices. I was raised by a single mother. I know how things were between her and my step father. You just paint the worst case scenario and assume it's always that way. Not true at all.
You Rey have zero idea what you're talking about, maybe spend time with a single mother yourself, then you'd have enough knowledge and experience to have a say. Now if the childless person is a woman, I would say the same but don't have to as society does enough of that for me, how many times have you seen women being told they are right for not being with a single father just because he's a single father. assuming the worst always happens, is a default position that all men should take. You claim you have zero obligations towards the kids, you're dead wrong, you become a legal guardian for that child and therefore become liable to ensure the lifestyle of that child is maintained, if you haven checked case law then again you don't know what you're talking about, if suggest you do some research. Why would I assume being a single mother isn't a bad life choice, partner left her for somebody else, bad choice, partner cheated bad choice, partner hits her bad choice, partner dies bad choice, decides she doesn't want to be married or with the father anymore still bad choices. I don't care if you were raised by a herd of zebra, bad choices are bad choices. Why shout I waste my time with somebody who is essentially used by another man who expects me to clean up the mess of her own life. Why am I going to waste my time on any woman who had shown she's incapable of being anything other than a toy because sadly for you that what a single mother is, she's been screwed up by another man and I'm not willing to fix her life. No I think strong independent women should stay that way.
I was raised by one. I saw how things worked first hand.None. I never in real life saw or heard about, man or woman, being told "don't date this person" for being a single parent. I heard it many times online guys with the same views you have saying they would never date a single mother.Why? If men do that they will never even leave their beds.I did. Unless your country has really messed up laws. In Portugal we have no legal obligation to pay pention after we leave the kids mother.So you also think every single father made a bad choice? I understand what you are saying. If I am a men and my wife cheats on me, I chose to leave her, and it is my fault that I chose a bad women, so my fault I became a single father. That is where you get wrong. She doesn't want you ceaning up anything! She wants you for the same things a non mother would. A partner, a lover and a future father for her kids. Kids happen to be from a different man, but not only she can have his kids, but also he can treat them as his own.
And this is where you've completely shot your own argumentShe wants you as a lover, partner and future father for her kids. Bingo, I don't want to be a father to somebody else's kids, I won't be and because I won't be, I won't be cleaning up and sorting out her mess. As for single father's yes, they did make a mistake, I certainly did. Would I say to a woman not to date men yes and I have done and rejected many women, because I have either the time nor the desire to allow them into my life and certainly not any woman with a child. The best you can do then is to say man up and marry the woman, that's all you've got, why would I, why would ignore that she's got far more issues than I do and I have far more to lose than she does. All you've done is prove to me that I'm right because I can tell you this for nothing, if you were a child of any woman I were unlucky enough to find myself in any form of relationship with you'd be the very reason I'm walking away.
Because I have seen thing from a closer perspective than you?Why would you be a father for her kids cleaning up her mess?That is you. I have a stepfather and he never lived the nightmare you talk about so much. He chose different than you and he doesn't regret it. He even cried at my wedding and I am not his biological son. Her being a single mother doesn't gives her more issues than you. Are you calling the kids "issues"? And you have ore to lose? Put yourself in the situation as a single father. You believe that presenting another woman to your kids, that may or may not work in the long run, is an easy thing to do? Trust me a guy like you would not have a shot at my mother even when she was single. She actually learned how to pick good men after my father. I also wouldn't want a man like you dating my daughter when I have one. No really if the guy tells me "I wold never want to date a single mother" it's a huge red flag. He has zero respect for women. I don't want anyone like that with my daughter. And to sue that subject to push him against the wall will be easy.
A guy like me would not want a shot at your mother, a guy like me would be saying thank you but no. I'm not willing to pick up your shit, clean up your mess. Yes you are an issue, yes you are a mess that I'd be expected to clean up, as for crying at your wedding, well good but it's not something I'd have been involved with other than to tell you what a simp you are and what a fool you are but you would not be my son son so then again it's probably something I wouldn't have said anyway as between us there would never have been any form of relationship. As for your step father another fool, another simp ready to clean up the mess of another woman. Are you offended yet, do you think that your going to convince me otherwise, do you think that I give a single shit about you, who you think you are who you think your mother is, to me she's just another woman nothing special about her at all, nothing of note or worth. Why then do you think I'm going to give a single thought over anything you say, do you really think you have the sole view of single mothers, that they are all heroes and should be worshipped. No they are a fucking mess hoping that another man is going to come along and fix their shit for them. Go away, your a child, a simp, a fool and above all I'm getting really bored talking about you and your mother, neither of which holds any interest for me. Neither you nor your mother will change my views because of the experience I've had of single mothers.
Thank God for that!You still haven't said why you would be cleaning their mess. Because I can assure you they don't need you for that.Another persons kid are an issue for you. Not for an actually quality man because one understands that that women don't need you to raise her kids, she can do it. But if you will be part of her life you will be part of all of her life. Someone who can't deal with hisAnd there we go, married men are also this and that. Do you have any idea how muc my wife spoils me? And I don't mean just sex! You are missing out. You have a narrative "single women are evil, sepfathers are simps, etc, but you actual have no arguments for you ideas. Almost like you are reading from a script for idiots. Oh I don't think I will convince you. You are over 40 and still believe this nonsnse you are to far lost. Still I am not the guy that gets offended I like to argue. We think similar things about each other I also couldn't care less about what you think. I am just giving you my 2 cents on the matter. Again saying they are a mess with no argumentsd on the why.You can stop talking no problem. I would just like to know if your opinion is the same regarding single fathers.
And so me come full circle, your best argument is man up and take of somebody else's problem, yes you are a problem, your mother is a problem, something no good man today should be willing to deal with. So I'll not man up, I'll not put my money and life on the line to feed and clothe a screw up like you, in fact at this very moment as the world burns I'm having the time of my life, so what's your next best argument because all you've got is, you don't like my mummy I'm so upset.
What problem? Is having kids a problem? Single parents fathers or mothers don't need another to help raise their kids they can do it themselves I said it before. When they get into a relationship kids are part of their lives so of course the new artner will interact with the children. Doesn't men they are a problem he or she needs to solve.Oh I don't care you don't like my mother and other single mothers, and I did gave you arguments. Most notorious one was that you believe that every situation will end up as bad as it can, which is just moronic.I find it hillarious that you didn't answer what you think about suingle father. Your prblem is not with single parents, your problem is with women. You are terrified of them like many soy boys on this site are.
And in what way did I not answer about single father's in fact I did and stated the same applies. I don't believe every situation ends badly, so you need to stop making inferences that I didn't make.As for you point on single father's I did answer and stated the same as applies to single mothers, so again stop your ovary-acting and simping over certain behaviours, accept that my experience at the hands of a single mother and in relationships with single mothers had been very different to yours and is remarkably similar to most men I know and most of the men I have met through my life, that your mother was able to trap another man is neither here nor there to me, sadly I think he's a fool and you too but that's your issue not mine. Personally I care neither way, regardless if your thoughts about single mothers your more than welcome to be the saviour for all of them and good luck to you, you I take from your rabid responses believe them to be heroes not whores I have enough experience to know otherwise.
You also think that they need a women to clean their mess?You sure talk like you believe that they do.What happened to you that was so bad at the ends of a single mother? Sorry to hear that tho, it must have been really bad. I could say you shouldn't generalize, but depending on what happened it can be hard.Let's reverse this again. Are single fathers also all man whores to you? Or is this a problem you have with women?
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Definitely a different case if they don't need help that way, but probably a single mother with decent priorities is going to base it somewhat around what's good for the kids. I'm used to knowing ones (including my own single mother) who didn't prioritize these things enough dating some guy with no job who adds further burdens when she's working like 2-3 part-time jobs to make ends meet while struggling the entire time.
Every man has his thing brother.
If you want your bank account drained then ok lol
Well some men like their balls to be tortured :PAnd some men like to drink their partner's pee...So I guess my fantasy isn't that bad after all :D
What a coincidence, I like using men for my financial needs. 😏
Well most women do the same so you have lot of competition😂