Do men give more then women in a relationship?

[hellionthesagereborn]

Yes. 80% of domestic spending (US) and 70% of global spending is done by women despite them being only responsible for about 30% of domestic earnings i. e. they spend all of their money and most of his too. If we look at spending when it comes to holidays/birthdays, men spend four times as much as women (and at least in the US for valentines day upwards of 8x more then women). Statistically if we take into account paid work, house work, and child rearing men do slightly more work then women do, despite this they get no credit for any of this (at least in the west).

After retirement mens suicide rates double, it does not change for women however. This is due to the fact that men work non stop to provide (which again, at least in the west, they get no credit for doing no thanks no gratitude) but once they retire their lives are gone, they have no hobbies because they just worked, they have no friends because all they had was work, their children are gone because they grew up while they were busy working and so they are left with nothing and eventually with no purpose left (and a society that doesn't care because he is no longer productive or useful to them) he is faced with a meaningless few years of life or just ending it then and there.

If a woman is in danger it is her husband that has to protect her not the other way around, even up to and including using his own body as a shield to protect her (this is not unusual under those circumstances). He risks his life for her and she doesn't do that for him (and he risks all the legal repercussions that it brings while she does not).

Meanwhile what do women give to him? Well sex, occasionally. If she feels like it (a third of marraiges are sexless and while it does go both ways, generally it tends to be the woman who denies the man sex more often then not). In the west she is not expected to cook or clean because its sexist (expecting him to do his traditional gender roles is not however sexist and in fact if he doesn't he is a "deadbeat"), so she doesn't give him that either. He is a father but we are told how much more difficult it is to be a mother (because while he does all the same things she does when it comes to raising the child, while she works less, he has to sacrifice his life and his time to work to provide for her and the child (this is then later used against him in divorce, an excuse to take away his access to his child while still demanding he provide for it and her).

So as far as I can tell women give sex (less then the guy wants it of course), and maybe if your lucky you will get some affection (between shit tests and drama), and that is about it. Men on the other hand give everything they have and then some. So yes, men give more in a relationship (wasn't always like that of course, but the modern world has made it this way and most women are to entitled to realize it (not their fault, they were raised in a screwed up system that framed women's contributions as oppression, and his contributions as privilege. When brought up under those conditions its hard to have a proper perspective on things.).

[OlderAndWiser]

Thinking of genders in terms of gross generalizations is a horrible mistake and is definitely NOT helpful. SOME guys are very giving and make great efforts in relationships, some are very selfish and egocentric, and some are in between the two extremes. SOME girls are very giving and make great efforts in relationships, some are very selfish and egocentric, and some are in between the two extremes. Instead of judging guys on the basis of preconceived notions, you just need to spend time getting to know a guy. . . and if that relationship doesn't work out, you need to spend some time getting to know the next guy.

[EclecticEmapath1111]

Some do yes, the women take more. Others take more and it's the woman who does all the giving. Both are possible, but I don't really believe that equal relationships work so much better than the former I described. Most of my friends who are divorced had relationships that were considered balanced and each person carried their weight and expenses and responsibilities in the relationship and it failed for all of them. Some of them went on to be the sole breadwinner and happily remarried and others let their partners take the lead and they had children. Somebody has to take the lead and give more and the other has to submit and depend on the other with some variations of shared responsibilities. There's some who just simply do most of the work and take care of another person too. It's not about ideals of what a relationship "Should be" for all but really about what works for individuals.

[Agem123]

Depends on the man.

I'm albanian too though😂

[MissDawn7961]

no they do not for some how or other both end up being equal in it or the women gives more ! the women gives more because if they have sex and she is pregnant , then she has a baby then she gives more to keep the baby , her and her man going ! I have dated a lot of guys and it goes both ways ! the men I have dated paid for the entire date ! one guy that I dated named David ate some of my leftovers in my frig. said to me - you are such a good cook , you should start your own restaurant - ! I served him left over hash browns and other things as well ! thanks

[UrBrotherCain]

in America, yeah. men lose custody battles 80% of the time. men are expected to pay for dates. men are expected to provide a house in a good neighborhood. men lose 50% of thier possessions in a divorce, men are more likley to be sued for child support. men are more likley to die in a home invasion. married men are more likley to join the military during economic crisis.

maybe men don't give more than women in a relationship but we certainly have more on the line if our SO decides to leave us.

[VanillaSalt]

Here in the states a man definitely risks more in marriage and having kids.


When starting a relationship women have the authority to say yes and no to anybody but men generally have fewer options. Men have to do the hunting, are expected to ask, expected to pay, expected to be chivalrous, and that’s on top of physical and mental traits women are looking for. Men have to put themselves out WAY more than women.


Once the relationship starts it’s fine at first but later things happen. Sex stops, you get more comfortable so fights happen more, nagging, etc.


And in the event of divorce which the rates are insanely 50% for first time 60% for second time and 70% for third time divorcée men will almost always end up paying 50% their wealth in alimony and even more in child support.


It’s just not worth it.

[Novacane]

Obviously in a very successful relationship it will always be 50/50 but those are rare.

For the most part, women give more. The reason is that women are naturally more caregiving than men. Men give more when beginning a relationship, but after some time men give up eventually and stop trying. For women it is the opposite, in the beginning, they are more reserved, but as soon as you guys are together that's when she starts being more giving and always puts 110% in the relationship. That's why many women are always unsatisfied with their relationships because men stop trying.

[lonestar_01]

Depends. I've seen many guys give their all for their girls and they just end up chasing them effectively and falling into the simp category. Yes, sometimes we as guys have to make the first move with females, but always having to do so can get very irritating especially if you are a couple. Broke up with a girl 2 years back because I was literally doing everything in the relationship and she did nothing, not even offering affection (I was 17 then), 19 now and then she started crying and saying she'll do better. But honestly, men make the first move, but it's your woman's duty to bring something equally of value to the table in a relationship. If not, then dump her, you'll just end up disappointed and drained. Both men and women should build each other up in a relationship

[David92506]

I think it depends on the man and woman.
When I go on dates I'm a gentleman and pay for everything.
We go to the restaurant she wants and the movies she wants to see.
I regularly listen to all the drama in her life.
If I get the impression she isn't really that interested in what I have to say then I really don't want to share. So I listen.
In all of my relationships it's a one-way, for her.

[guesswhoseback]

We are expected to be the protector and provider. If we lack in anyone of those areas we are considered “less than a man” and most women won’t stay with us. Our background and luck doesn’t matter. We have to be able to DO something meaningful to provide and be strong enough to protect. This is the bare minimum.

But women also expect big personalities and men who can be “emotionally” available. But at the same time we can NOT act like a female when doing this. Yet we are expected to “listen” to problems but not solve them. Yet are minds (being providers) are wired to take action and solve problems. This is a constant tight rope men have to walk with “modern” women.

Bottom line is too many women (not all but too many) suffer from the princess syndrome. If you have higher expectations for your partner than yourself than expect to be continually disappointed and a future cat lady.

[dandiecandie]

It depends on the relationship between men and women but there is no such thing as a free lunch. They both give, some more and some less but again it depends on the relationship dynamic and the type of relationship they have build together so it could go either way.

[Anonymous]

Relationships, dating, courting and anything else of the sort, that are unequal... are for simps. Simps give more, simps give it their all, and they never learn. They will defend the system, keep it going... and women will sit back and allow it to carry on because it benefits them.

This is why there are some men that do the opposite. You will often see it on this site, they play the system, take what they want, and the woman becomes the simps desperately trying to convert friends with benefits into a relationship. Both are extremes of two different sides of the same ego driven coin. At the root of it is low self esteem.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

May be in some relationships men give more and in other women give more bc it never can be equal.

One will be liniment and other will be a giver that's how life is as simple to work.

Depends on people and there surroundings and how they devolop personality

[guywithissues900]

No.
It depends on the person more.


Some women refuse to listen to their boyfriends and vice versa.


I’ve seen fucked up cases in both sides where the woman did everything and the man left her alone with 2 babies, and then there are other cases like the man cleaning the house and working, while the woman went to get a hairdo and then cheat on her boyfriend on the same day.

[Anonymous]

Last year I let six guys take turns at me for a whole week abroad, thing was 2 of those guys were with my friends, another was married to my sister and another had a wife as well. One of them took videos and pics of it and their girlfriend found them and exposed us all. My fiancee dumped me my friends and sister haven't spoke to me since, my parents are pissed and the whole town knows.

[Mamamialetmego]

Men try hardest. We have to have tall height, handsome face and that's not enough. We have to have confident amazing personality, we have to be funny. We have to approach women and convince them, we have to get rejected hundreds of times, we have to give attention all the time. Women just need to be pretty and wait and let the guys do everything. I wish women just can understand how hard things are for us. A girl can't handle one rejection alone we actually go through hundreds and hear how unwanted we are all the time.

[NamerOfStars]

I think that's going to depend pretty enormously on the man and the woman and the relationship in question. Also the specific circumstances; if, say, one partner gets horribly injured and is functionally bedridden while they recover, then obviously their partner's going to be putting in more. I'd say that one of the signs of a relationship being serious is when you stop keeping score.

[IDKANYMOREIMCONFUSED]

depends on the guy if the guys a dick head he won't but if a guys a nice guy I feel like he would put a lot of effort and time into the relationship and then get hurt that's why we also started to stop the continuation of our relationships or why most guys will pretty soon if I know my generation as well as I think i do we won't have many boyfriend and girlfriend

[msc545]

I don't think that men and women necessarily give differing amounts of important things in a relationship. I think that they just give different things for the most part. The things that men bring to a relationship are often different than the things that women bring to a relationship and vice-versa. This is what makes relationships exciting and fun.

[RawIronhide]

I don't want to devide us, but in general yes I do feel that way. When I was younger a girl that liked my brother brought him a frappachino for his birthday, he wasn't home so I sent her away. I felt so bad also because she was so nice and attractive but my brother wasn't interested. I'd give anything for that kind of consideration. Girls do put forward effort, just mostly in the wrong ways and the ones who do it right are so rare.

[PurSeduction]

Neither do or dont give give more in general in a relationships.

Its either Person A gives more than B. Or Person A thinks giving more than Person B and it ends in frustration--

[JackSmy]

Are you keeping score? Then all is already lost.
Any relationship is more about giving, and loving, that taking, or keeping track of who did what. . .

[Ozanne]

Not the men I ever dated before I got married. Good relationships usually have a balance between the two people of give and take. Sometimes, yes, one person does give a bit more or the other takes a bit more, but if you have other things going on that make it a good relationship, then it's not even really an issue for most.

[Juxtapose]

Unquestionably we do. Just look at who winds up having to initiate, pay for things and then take the fall in the divorce and custody cases.

Is a woman going to help you when a burglar breaks in? No.. you have to be the one in danger, even though you have given everything.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

What do you exactly mean by giving?
But in a good relationship, the answer is no... If a man is in a relationship with a woman that doesn't give as much as he does, doesn't mean no women do, means maybe he's with the wrong woman 🤷🏼‍♀️

[DavidDong]

Depends how capable each is.

on dating apps, I've certainly always given more.

But it truly does depend, I've probably only met the bottom of chain in terms of dating which sucks
I'd rather be single then stay there

[MountAverage]

How much someone puts into a relationship depends on the person, their personality and history, their intentions and motivations, and so on. I don't know why everybody needs to make a gender issue out of everything.

[triff]

I don't think men give more Men are more affectionate Whers as the woman is more practical Keeping things on an even keel

[lookingforsomereal]

I don't think you can make a blanketed statement on this. there are men who are givers who end up giving more in certain relationships, then there are women who are givers who give more. it depends on the particular relationship and the people involved.

[Little_Bumblebee]

Stop, stop stop.

You cannot generalize like that.

Each individual person and each relationship is different.

[anon1903]

Usually it goes like men work for money to take care of his dear ones while woman do the same in terms of care once married

[lightbulb27]

can you be more specific? give in terms economically, or "give in" in terms of give and take changes? or something else?

[havingfun101]

Always. When women make more money, the divorce rate goes up by 50% & women file 75% of divorces. Meanwhile, marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows.

[Mogtar]

All the noble and romantic deeds I made towards my wife can never make her for what she does every day.

[Anonymous]

Yes, man give much more to woman in most relationships. Really the only thing most woman give to man is sex and they cook for them. Most woman barely bring anything to the table jet they consider themselves to be the prize, when in reality man are the real prize.

[Reaperbot666]

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[Anonymous]

GHANTA!!!
IN MOST RELATIONSHIPS THIS HAPPEN.
ALL THEY WANT IS SEX AND THEY FOOL YOU BY SAYING THEY LOVE YOU.
A man never gives birth to a stupid child.
Woman is a blessing but they abuse her.
A man never sacrifices his beauty, ambitions and goals only to make his partner happy. Females do that and they are loyal unlike males who wander streets all the time like dogs to have sex and sex.

[Dali-chan]

Yeah as long as the woman is at least 5 points hotter than him, and 25 years younger than he is.

[serious]

No, on the contrary I believe the opposite is true.

[CasaNorba]

obviously, men have to spend more money, energy, time, has to make far more sacrifice and worry about more consequences

[slatyb]

Depends on the man and the woman. Mostly I think it’s the other way around but not always.

[Lynx122]

The person who gives more is usually the person who's more interested in the other one and that can be the guy or the girl.

[FocusOfSuspicion]

It probably depends on the couple and changes over time.

[snappysierra]

It depends on the person. In my past with relationships I did all the giving while the guy was taking me for granted and eventually got bored of me...

[caring1402]

Completely agree. Men are more straight forward and say what ever they have in their minds. While most women dont even know what they want. Love them too much they will creat distance, love them less they will do the same, give them everything, they will get bored, give them nothing they will get angry. How can we men stay at 50 at all times. at least for me i can either give nothing or give everything staying in the middle is not possible for me

[Simplismilez]

In my experience no. I always end up giving more only to. feel stupid later on.

[lukeedmonton]

They should not.
It should be an equal relationship.
Or it is not a healthy one.

[Johnymightknow]

This question really depends how the people personality clash. I have seen where a female or man gives there all in one relationship and not much in the next relationship. It should at least be a 50 50.

[karangill]

First let's talk about Secure men vs Insecure men cause they both give but very differently. Same can be said about women.

[Daniel3035]

Usually always and then they get cheated on and the next girl goes "why don't you put more effort into this relationship?"

[ronaldsnugs]

Yes. Our society is set up this way. It’s not a bad thing. Love for who you love.

[Anonymous]

Without question. It's one of the main reason i don't pursue women. It's a losing proposition. You're always going to give more to women then you'll ever get back with women. And when you realize " hey, there's nothing a woman can do for me that i can't do for myself that's when your entire view changes.

[EssenceOfLight]

I keep it equal because it hurts my ego if I feel abused.

[Anonymous]

pretty much. from what i've experienced in my years it's always been me who gives more and receives nothing or next to nothing even though relationships are suppose to be 50/50 which isn't the case these days

[iFarted]

Depends on how you view things and the individuals in their relationship. If two people are happy then it doesn't matter.

[JDavid25]

It's not a gendered thing.. If the person man or woman cares more then they give more..

[jasco]

So far it has been that way for me and i imagine it so for others

[Unit1]

Usually so with money 💵. They don't call it "provider" for nothing. 🙄

(i don't like that)

[Anonymous]

Yeah, pretty much. That’s just the way things are though. It’s a bit messed up, but I doubt anything can be changed. It just is what it is.

[IronmanT]

Yes... We will give everything for a woman we believe are worth it... no matter the risk to us. The second a girl thinks its a risk or she won't get EXACTLY WHAT SHE WANTS, she quits and stops trying to be a PARTNER...

[Xoirwinkan]

Probably, but if the woman has the kids, it's perfectly reasonable.

[dragoblack]

In this romance economy where guys are expected to pay for everything and many women will date just for free stuff; absolutely

[CuriousMufuxka]

Initially, no. Women put in too much, too early until giving up. Then men start trying to make up.