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I say both because you do have people who genuinely want to save themselves for marriage and it is important to tell them they should do it for themselves and not for other people, the church/other place of worship, etc. But sex education is important because people need to know how to practice safe sex, know what consent is and how to practice it, know what feelings (i. e. being “horny”) are ok and what aren’t (i. e. lumps in the breasts, burning of private area), STD/STI and cancer screening and the importance of it, and other things I could go on and on about. But sex education can be educational even if someone chooses to be abstinent. People are so worried about the sex and not the education part of it. Realistically, the majority of people didn’t practice abstinence. Hell, your teacher telling you to do so probably didn’t do it. So why put that on them.
Sex education. Teaching abstinence only means you'll leave teens feeling confused and maybe even a bit ashamed over their completely normal sexual desires. Also it's been proven over and over that teaching abstinence doesn't work, teens are still having sex. But instead of knowing what they're doing and how to actually prevent pregnancies and STDs in the most effective way... they don't.
Also the less taboo you make sex, the less curious people will be. If we have open and honest discussions about sex, less people will feel the need to try it just for the sake of trying it, or to figure out what it's *actually* like. If you take away the mystery, I think more teens would be more comfortable with the idea of waiting, because they'd know what they would get themselves into and if they're actually ready for it or not.
Abstinence was done for years and it didn't stop anyone from having sex. It just left people ignorant to the risks and consequences of their actions.I voted for a mix of both though as one should be taught the benefits of both and if one does decide to have sex, educating them will at least increase the chances of them doing it as safely as possible and perhaps make more informed decisions. It's not ensured they will be smart about it, but it's better than leaving them ignorant and blind to the risks and ways of preventing pregnancy or STDs/STIs
Abstinence doesn’t work. Sex ed all the way
What do you mean it doesn't work?
@Just_a_human he means that teaching abstinence as the only sex leads to a society where you get far more unwanted and teen pregnancies, resulting in higher abortion rates (both safe and unsafe), higher rates of STI's, and a whole lot of other unsafe behaviours.
@Walrus_au do you think that's because of rebellion, people told them not to have sex and so they did it because they were told not to
@Walrus_au Because abstinence does NOT teach anything about how to have sex using birth control methods and how to have safer sex. It simply says don't have sex. That is what doesn't work.
@Just_a_human no.Humans are evolved for the purpose of spreading their genes, just like every creature on this planet. The ones that survived had the urge to do that more. this went through thousands of cycles, and pretty soon most of the human population is driven to engage in sex. It's a natural drive, part of what we are.Thus, it's going to happen.The decision parents have to make, is do they want it to happen to an ignorant, uneducated and unprepared child, or do they want their kids to understand what is going on.Nothing to do with rebellion, everything to do with what they are.
@Walrus_au I see, I always thought it was because of rebellion
@Just_a_human Even if it was, have you felt what sex feels like? It would only be rebellion once or twice. Then it would be all about enjoying themselves.No, it's very basic level drive. This is one of the reasons religion is so toxic to humans, it forces people to deny and suppress what they are.
@Walrus_au Growing up, I could not understand why teenagers had sex, outside of rebellion and curiousity reasons. I can understand that it's a basic drive, it's just not something I can relate to since I've never experienced it, but if teenagers experience that then guess just advocating abstinence isn't the correct route.
@Just_a_human It sounds like you were more the exception rather than the rule. And most of the abstinence 'education' uses all these really crude BS things like - Ohh you'll be like chewed gum, or a cup that's been spat in.This is, what we call in the business, lies. And fairly universally when you lie to children, they stop trusting what you say.Don't do drugs it will kill you... Huh, I did drugs and it felt good and I'm not dead... what else did they lie about.
Thanks walrus for explaining my point for me lol
;) sorry man, was just a timing thing.
Sex education when I was a teenager in highschool, was one class taught once.Education of this nature, should have involved a teacher who is also a sex therapist , weekly lessons, discussions with students , help them solve and inform them with all that needs to be known. I went to Catholic school, before going to public highschool, was a alter boys during my younger years.My parents kept me away from girls.I m know a socially awkward, older adult, still abstinent , v card holder lol.Growing up I was bullied a lot, by fellow boys and girls were mean all the way into highschool.I believe i suffer from post trauma from these incidents.I know I find attraction to women I pass by everyday.But sexually, I find myself gaurded and unwilling at the point to endeavour to love, sex.What I'm getting to is, religion, parents, peers can damage a person's mental emotional state if pushed to far, forbid someone of knowledge, feelings.Knowledge, trust, safe space, practice common sense.I haven't found any women that's made me feel, willing or happy yet, so I'll remain safe and not venture to sex.maybe I'll find love and things may change who knows.In closing in the end your need to inform the youths is important, right for both school and parents must to create a responsible zone for growing curious beings in their care.Stay safe and responsible young life travelers.
Well one recent study did actually show that abstinence education actually worked. I think it depends on how you present it and how you teach it (though to be perfectly honest I think this is something parents should be doing not schools (the parents are the ones who are suppose to be putting their values onto their children not the public education system)). I think the idea that pretending like sex has no real consequences as long as you use protection is not responsible (as all data shows that their are mental consequences that can adversely affect you for the rest of your life), but at the same time I think its reasonable to argue that not at least preparing for the worse case scenario as at least some teenagers are going to be stupid regardless of what you do, is a good idea. So I think we should push for abstinence until an appropriate age and in appropriate situations i. e. relationships as data shows this is preferable to casual sex across the board, but we should also be aware that some people are not going to listen and it might be necessary to teach them to protect themselves. So basically don't be stupid and sleep around because its going to cause you a lot of problems but if you insist on being an idiot with no self control at least use a condom.
I chose ceibacy for religious reasons. I believe God keeps people from things that would harm them.As a whole is loose sex better or worse for people and society? I, d say worse. Just because you want Somthing Dosn t make it right. Sex should be taught for what it is, not as Somthing to be flaunted as if it held no significance or had a serious effect on people. As ,, not a big deal,,Teach them safe sex, I, d say around middle school.Really I'm kind of torn on this, on 1 hand i don't want my kids learning about and having sex before marriage especially not at that age, On the other i don't want them being careless with sex out of ignorance if they are doing it. I think every parent would feel that way.While I do not support the lgbtq As an American I appreciate free speech, and every one right to express their religion.But understand there is a difference between teaching what the lgbtq is and letting them make up their own minds and telling them , this is Thai and that is that, you are born gay, you have no gender, etc as if the leftist dogma was irrefutable facts of life. Kids are brain washed in the education system. School shouldn't be all 1 way or the other school should be like government impartial to anyone but listing to everyones point of view and studying it.Like how I don't agree with communism but study its ideleogy because I have a right to know about it.
How do you even teach abstinence?"Good morning, class. Today I will teach you about abstinence.DO NOT HAVE SEX!!!Thank you for your attention. Class dismissed."What a load of bullshit. Kids need to know everything there is to know about sex - the biological functions, the risks, the implications, and it needs to be detabooed without glorifying it. It needs to be presented as something natural and beautiful while at the same time explaining the responsibilities that come with it. And also very importantly - MASTURBATION. Teach them about masturbation and that it's perfectly fine and even healthy, goddamnit.
I think teaching it in school is something that's up for debate because no one likes it, it's awkward and uncomfortable, you have the ability to opt out... Our parents should be teaching us this. That's awkward enough. But now you want my classmates and teachers to be involved? No thanks. If we do teach sex, we should teach more than how to be safe. Being safe isn't enough. Being smart is what's important. Smart sex education. If we tell students it's okay to have sex as long as it's safe then we are teaching the wrong message. We are essentially saying it's okay to do something because you can get away it. That's not how it works. We all need to understand, especially teens, that having sex is a big fucking deal and for the last majority of us we need to treat it as such. Be careful who you let into your life like that. Limit who you allow to see you and feel you that vulnerable. Pick wisely who deserves you and what your body offers. That's what we should teach.
basic information maybe. like how / when to use protection.since many parents either don't have the time to talk with there kids about the matter. or just don't know how to going about talking to them about it.sadly since things like porn or other adult content. are rather easy to find more then in the past. kids are learning about sex at a younger age more then ever. which often leads to more teenage parents. because they either don't know about protection. or simply don't use it at all.
Education. Abstinence is just rooted from a stupid religious mentality the premarital sex is a sin and sex in general must be kept a taboo subject. Fear is the core in abstinence, in a nutshell sex outside marriage is bad mmmkay. Resist the urge mmmkay. Condom is a no no mmkay. Why do you even have to know about safe sex anyway when you're not gonna have sex the first place! I'm gonna condescendingly refuse you sexual reproduction education because you're to stupid for all of this mmmkay... What's that? You're pregnant Oh shit I should have made you even more sexually ignorant to avoid getting pregnant.
Oh the things being taught in the USA these days is insane. Liberal schools teaching first graders about lgbtq stuff and how there are 69 genders or who knows what number it is now. Avoid public schools. It will screw up your child. Colleges teaching wankjobs. https://handjobworkshop.comAnyway, the only type of sex ed that should be taught is precautions to take in order to avoid std's. That's enough. No need to teach sex positions and acts.
Bro where do you get your info from? They don't teach sex positions and also they don't actively teach about LGBTQA+ either
@Jaybird19 I never saud they teach sex positions. I meant that at the rate we are going, something as crazy as that could happen someday. I get my news from a variety of sources. Many sources have mentioned that they will teach lgbt history stuff. I don't remember which source mentioned that there will be homosexuality and transgenderism being taught too. Look at this for now. And do your own research if you're interested.thefederalist.com/.../californiafamily.org/.../I don't live in VA or CA but it's still evidence. I don't want my elementary school kids to be taught propaganda.
Well abstinence is easy. Just don't do it and no baby's and no STDs. But you have to teach sex Ed or how younger people know how to prevent pregnancy and STDs? Information, education and knowledge is always helpful. To not teach it would be foolish and harmful...
Sex ed, for sure, including the body parts and how they function; STDs and precautions; birth control options; and a small pitch about abstinence at a young age. But teaching abstinence is pretty ineffective and generally resonates with religious types.
abstinence has been recommended since the beginning of time and kids still have sex regardless. it’s pointless. my unit had sex ed and whatnot, but also strongly recommended abstinence.
Teaching abstinence is only one small step to proper sex educationParents need to protect children from music, movies, and media which promote casual sex and sexual degradation. Parents also need to install porn blockers in their homes. It needs to be a community effort though, thats whats so difficult.
I'm a firm believer that every sex ed class should be informative, resourceful in the sense they show how to use things like condoms, but they should also start and stop each class by making them listen to babies crying for the first and last 5 minutes of class with the same episode of paw patrol in there as well on repeat.
I believe sex education should be taught in School , i know my Health class orScience class was teaching sex education when i was in 7th grade and i wentto School with a girl who was pregnant at age 13-14 and i bet she had babyevery year from age 13, 14 . Yes unbelievable but true.
Abstinence only education doesn’t work that well. Schools should advise waiting until you’re older to have sex, but still tell kids about different forms of birth control and contraception because they’re going to have sex anyway.
Sex education should be taught but in this generation most know about it. Information is available in abundance and one can easily acquire it. But nobody searchs for pros and cons. So why teenager's shouldn't get into drugs, alcohol , sex should informed them. Such can prevent some people from addictions. Prevention is better than cure.
Yes abstinence should be taught along side of teaching different forms of birth control and well as respecting partners. With abstinence there should be a lesson on not feeling bad about doing masturbation and also using sex toys to eliminate sexual tension to maintain the abstinence. Just teaching abstinence without any talk about releasing sexual tension when young people are chock full of hormones isn't a good idea or healthy.
Minors should be encouraged to abstain because hey, they are minors. That said, what exactly *is* the definition "sex education"? As opposed to biology education ("this is how babies are made") which should *always* be taught obviously.
Basically STI, STD and how to use a condom and birth control and that type of stuff.
Fair enough. "This is how it works". It always seemed to me that the phrase "sex education" was a loaded term with all kinds of policy and value issues, but "this is how it works" is always good to know.
Yeah, I read an article that thought sex education should teach how to actually have sex and what turns both genders on and I disagree with that
Exactly. THAT sort of "education" becomes dubious.
That is not what sex education is about. It is about the diseases that are spread from sexual contact and in general what sexual contact is among humans. How babies are made.
@Screenwriter As I stated, I have nothing but support for "this is how it works".
Sorry, I was replying to the woman who said it was about teaching sexual positions and how to stimulate someone... hit the wrong REPLY...
I wish that my teachers did a hands-on demonstration of the right way to have sex because I've been doing it with a pillow for years and didn't realize I was a virgin until I saw that I never did break through the seam of the pillow. And now I'm too afraid of buying another because I feel like I'm not good enough.
In my opinion it's all about HOW you teach this subject and at WHAT AGE do you start this...For example - teaching 6 year olds how to masturbate is ridiculous and stupid. On the other hand, teaching 15 year olds how important it is to use protection is healthy and smart.
Honestly, both for those who desire the abstinence bit, but I think sex education is more important. The more knowledge that they have about sex, the more likely they will practice safe sex practices.
Sex education has always included the fact that abstinence is 100% safe sex and birth control. However human beings, or 95% of them, do not practice abstinence during their lifetimes.
sex education. Better teach them how to have sex safely then simply say "don't have sex" and then get surprised when they don't know how to have it when they do it anyway.
Preaching abstinence in school is equivallent to telling every student to start having sex. Telling people what not to do is basically encouraging them to rebel against the idea. in my opinion it is far better to teach them how to have sex safely, and the potential consequences if they are not doing so. Unknowingly children are having sex younger and younger every year.
Studies show that abstinence is entirely ineffective. You can't stop millions of years of evolution by just saying "don't do that." They're going to have sex. End of story. Accept reality and work within it. So if we know it's going to happen anyway, the best and most effective thing we can do is make sure they are aware of the risks, as well as how to be safe.
Side-note: Why are schools the ones doing this, anyway? Parents need to get off their asses and start doing some parenting.
There is a word for teens who receive abstinence-only sex education.We call them “parents”.Comprehensive sex education reduces both teen pregnancy and StD transmission.
Sex education. And frankly, knowing the reality of STDs, pregnancy, and giving birth works pretty well as a deterrent. Every try showing someone photos of a syphilis infection?
Kids are going to have sex give them the tools to do it properly
considering abstinence only schools have teen pregnancy at 4 times the rate of sex education schools i think you know my answerwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3194801/
you don't need a fucking about abstinence... "don't fuck". that's the whole lesson. what else is there to teach about not fucking? XD most people will wanna fuck and i feel like it's more reasonable to tell them how to do that responsibly instead of telling them "no"... that's how america has such high teenage pregnancy rates.
a fucking lesson* xD
Teach what happens when u fk around, emotionally and financially and show the poor kids who grow up with stupidnpleasure seeking parents
@Shamalien yup that's exactly what causes the sexual oppression that leads to the teenage pregnancy problem you have. you won't raise sexually healthy children by telling thim how horrible and bad sex is.
@Shamalien in case you were going to reply to this i'll just inform you that i blocked you to have the decency keep you from wasting your time as i'm not interested in having a discussion with you. cheers.
Abstinence doesn't work, and abstinence-only education leads to higher teen pregnancy. Kids just want to fuck, there's no teaching them not to, it can't be avoided.
There is a time and place for everything. Fear mongering doesn't work. But stating facts and outcomes with the two sides of the coin can let people choose how they wish to approach it. But hey I'm just some idiot on the internet.
Teach best case scenario (abstinence), but teach sexual education and protection as they get closer to mid-teens.
Sex Ed because kids are gonna have sex eventually some sooner than others telling them not to is just gonna make them want to have it moreBest to give man the tools to succeed at a healthy life than give a man nothing and have him do nothing and fuck up
Safe sex should be taught to everyone. It should include sex for gay men and women as well. It should also include information on your body, I honestly can't tell you how often I've had to tell girls that they don't pee out of their vagina.
Probably just the mechanics of hurried fingering, which is what most kids under 18 will count as sex anyway.
Sex education includes the right to remain abstinent. You want little kids running around with little kids then you speak up and educate for the curious ones.
I Picked the second option, a mix.It shouldn't be as simple as, 'Don't have sex before marriage' and that's it. It should be, 'Don't have sex before marriage, because...' and explain the risks of it
Most kids think that they are wise. They think that adults are there to spoil their fun. No matter what you try to teach them, they will always be like "what ever". Kids will do what they want.
wPublic schools are state run. wDo you want your kids educated about sex by the government or by the parentsw?wI think parents wOuld like to raise their children as much as they possible can, anymore.
Fuck abstinence, it's easy to get, just do what teachers and your mother say and you will be a virgin at 40.What is needed it's sex education.
is it true that students with autism aren't taught sex ed, because the school thinks they're less likely to engage in sexual activity?
when I went to school sex education was so poor the first time I had sex the girl I was with was almost put off because of my lack of knowledge and experience
Yeah but shold be taught if the child wants to learn it n if the parents agree. It shouldn't be up to the school to if or when a child be taught about sex
I think both cause it’s better to be prepared then not. I mean stds and unwanted pregnancy. One of the things made wanna rebel when sex is made to taboo.
Sex education. You can preach abstinence as the best form of protection, but we need actual education because kids are going to have sex, one way or another, and if you dont explain how to protect themselves, then dumb shit will happen
I don't think abstinence alone is okayI think sex should become less of a taboo subject and that teens should know it's okay to have sex
But is it okay to have sex?
@EpicDweeb As a general rule, if it involves consenting adults, yes. The tricky bit is deciding where the line is between child and adult.
I think abstinence should be taught up until senior year of Highschool (or whichever grade is equivalent to the age of consent for a given state) at which point a solid sex education should be provided.
Abstinence doesn't work. Sex education is preferred but also should be taught by parents. Parents shoukd also instill values about respecting your body and making sure you understand the emotional/mental consequences that could occur as well.
Correction, abstinence works, but people aren't willing to abstain.
Abstinence education doesn't work.
Aww, I suppose that's accurate
Schools that teach abstinence have higher pregnancy rates.. Keep your kids stupid and they will do stupid things..
I would prefer both, so they can make a choice. I am a supporter of the parent child talk on sex.
Tell the youths the truth about sexual intercourse and their bodily functions and teach them the value of self-control.
I think it's a good idea, but to be honest I don't want to sit through that class.
Yes only so if it does happen they kids consider the risk involved when being sexually active.
I believe teaching Abstinence and teaching the human body would be good.
Isn't it usually sex and relationships education, these days?
I don't think relationships is ever taught. It's all mechanics. This is the problem.
Sex ed. Im not pregnant right now because of free condoms from the counselor.
it was when i was growing up, what the hell happen to it?
Well all it did for my class was that it was exciting for them to blow up condoms into balloons and play and secretly bring condoms home, but i guess its good to learn, but we learn it too early here, started in 6th or 7th grade i think...
The only surefire way to prevent STI's and pregnancy.
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