Is this a valid reason to fire/give an employee a warning?

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One of my close friends works at an injection molding company. One of my friends' coworkers needed to talk to HR and his badge (used to open company doors) wasn't working. So, my friend used his badge to open the door and it still wasn't opening (some people that work at the company have access to the HRs front door. They're two doors. One door the one my friend and his coworker were trying to open and there's another one only the HR can open from the inside of the room). The main door wasn't opening with my friend's badge either. My friend said he knocked on the door twice and nobody opened it. So, his initial thought was maybe the door is jammed. So, he kinda pushed the door. What he didn't know was that the HR was in the room but the HR was sitting in an area where nobody could really see his fat ass (the HR is fat ). So, the HR got up when he realized someone was at the door and opened it. Later in the day, the supervisor walked up to my friend and told him HR went to the company manager and basically snitched (HR doesn't like my friend because my friend makes more money than him). He also told my friend that he might have to sign a warning paper tomorrow morning. I dont understand what my friend did? Pushed a door because he thought it was stuck and the lazy HR couldn't get his ass up to open the door on the first knock? My friend has been working for that company for 5 years now. He's afraid he might get fired.

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1 mo

HR isn't supposed to lock doors unless they're on break. My friend doesn't know when HR is on break or not.

Answer 1

jgokgotit | 138 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

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That is not a valid reason. If they are talking about giving him a warning/firing, they just don't like him and are digging for excuses. If he has no other disciplinary issues and gets fired for something like that, he would have a solid legal case against the company.

saud1998

1 mo
That's what I'm thinking. He's never done anything else. Just pushed a door that he thought was closed because ole overweight HR couldn't walk a few steps to open it.
jgokgotit

1 mo
Technically, if they are being petty, they can try to argue that he circumnavigated a security feature or tried to destroy property. Those arguments would be fairly weak, especially if there were witnesses.
saud1998

1 mo
His co-worker is his witness. I wouldn't sign that warning paper either.
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jgokgotit

1 mo
What he should do is write a rebuttal. Most papers you sign have a comment section. He should write his rebuttal but not put his signature on the paper. If they fire him for insubordination for not signing the paper, that just strengthens his legal case.

Answer 2

saud1998

That's what I'm thinking. He's never done anything else. Just pushed a door that he thought was closed because ole overweight HR couldn't walk a few steps to open it.

Answer 3

jgokgotit

Technically, if they are being petty, they can try to argue that he circumnavigated a security feature or tried to destroy property. Those arguments would be fairly weak, especially if there were witnesses.

Answer 4

saud1998

His co-worker is his witness. I wouldn't sign that warning paper either.

Answer 5

jgokgotit

What he should do is write a rebuttal. Most papers you sign have a comment section. He should write his rebuttal but not put his signature on the paper. If they fire him for insubordination for not signing the paper, that just strengthens his legal case.

Answer 6

codyccc | 933 opinions shared on Education & Career topic.

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If you were on certain military bases you would be shot for such behavior and technical since he was trying to forcefully enter a area he didn't have access he most likely broke his employment contract and the contract he signed when given the security card

Is this a valid reason to fire/give an employee a warning?

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