How do you expect people to respect you when you walk around with your pants sagging, throwing up gang signs, and rapping about how many btches you have fcked? They want people to hate them. I don't know why. If they don't like school, drop out. Either flip burgers at a fast food joint or beg for money on the streets while you live in a cardboard box. Don't bring your idiocy to school. And yes, this issue does bother me because I have to deal with it on a weekly basis. I'm just trying to do best in school right now.
Why don't some black kids care about school?

How do you expect people to respect you when you walk around with your pants sagging, throwing up gang signs, and rapping about how many btches you have fcked? They want people to hate them. I don't know why. If they don't like school, drop out. Either flip burgers at a fast food joint or beg for money on the streets while you live in a cardboard box. Don't bring your idiocy to school. And yes, this issue does bother me because I have to deal with it on a weekly basis. I'm just trying to do best in school right now.
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I was respectful of your observation till your second paragraph.
First of all... This post. Its like Diet Racism and that heavily falls on your word choice. It started with curiousity and then dribbled into a space of hurt. Your quest seems to reveal that you're in a position in which the actions of others are annoying you. You don't seem to talk about them directly affecting you so why must these kids "want people to hate them" that you "Don't know why, they don't like school" they're only other alternative is to drop out? That's straight up ignorance. You're correct! Any kid of any race could act like this. However if you want a bare bone argument, that's their culture. I agree it's absurd to have a Beats pill... but not have a backpack? Its possible they've very much well don't give a fuck. They could be doing more productive and constructive things with they're day but in the end its a system that will push thousands of kids through a system that was constructed and never refurbished. The education system isn't designed fairly so not all kids get exactly what they need to be their best selves and so they look up to people who have crossed a certain threshold and then idolise them and their mannerism are that of someone who does that on the daily. There aren't many teachers that are even taught how to make those meaningful connections to engage these kids in their work and their future because they've already been jaded themselves. Not all, just enough that there's now this divide when you're in school to grow as a person not just turning in geography homework in order to get to stanford. They're not teaching children how to become young adults.Is this still revelant?- Asker+1 y
Agree with you on the "so not all kids get exactly what they need to be their best selves and so they look up to people who have crossed a certain threshold and then idolise them and their mannerism are that of someone who does that on the daily" part.
That's why we have people like him, who these kids look up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJQ8olFReuo I agree that they're many of AA personalities that anyone could draw motivation from; however school is an institution to express yourself and figure out whom you want to become. At what age you actually come into your own varies from individual to individual.
Every highschool is different, every home is different, every student is important. I hope I opened up a new perspective for you to feel free to explore.
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*African-American Personalities. MLK, Michael Jackson, Medgar evers, Beyoncé, Obama, etc.
The link appears to be broken, I tired to figure a way around it but I couldn't come to a solution. If you tell me the title I'll be more than happy to watch.
You're not wrong, however you're not 100% correct. Gangs aren't limited to the boogie men that media wants to portray it as. Gangs usually consist of families, babies, brother, aunts, cousins, etc.
Essentially yeah he's saying "don't fuck with my gang" but if you put it into context.. that's his family right there. These are people that raised him and he in turn grew up with.
He's sings about all these bodies droppin and nobdy giving a shit.
And its real, he literally says so.
So you have someone who has lost family due to the violence in his area and he's basically saying:
"Eye for an eye"
Since nobody cares about them then that's where the gang steps in. Protect what's theirs.
You know, funny enough YB actually does have a highschool diploma. I just found that funny, because I just looked at an interview were he stated that he did actually graduate HS.
He did an interview with "The Fader" where he just throws it in there in the first 30 seconds.
He did another interview with "DJ Smallz Eyes 2" where he talks more about his opinions on school.- Asker+1 y
He said, "I just wanna say that I got a high school diploma." What he meant was that he was thinking about returning back to finish hs because he wants to be able to say, "I got a high school diploma" for the sake of it. That doesn't mean he has it yet. Also, he mentioned he didn't give a fck about school.
- School is not adapted to modern age, it was the most boring thing ever, just make children, teenagers and young adults sit around all day, not allowed to speak, only to listen to the all mighty teacher, seems a reasonable way to create a healthy society.
And this is how racism/sexism/any -ism the f you want is born, a group of people are not interested in school, the school system doesn't give a bloody fuck, (wich is bad for both them and students who want to "succeed"), they stop working, others are pissed at them.
Repeat the procedure later in life, but with people who work and people whom the schools where unable to educate... many governments could create a healthy society by making good schools, meaning schools that do so in that no one needs to sell weed in their 20's to live (I hated school as much as I could but I was really talented, I didn't have to sell weed, yup bonus point in life !)Is this still revelant?- Asker+1 y
Obviously, almost everyone, including me, hate school, even though I'm a good student. Why on Earth would I want to wake up at 6 o'clock in the morning and be sit in a chair for almost 9 hours, when I could stay at home, sleep, eat, and repeat? But then these blacks talk about how "oppressed" they are and how the world is all racist against them. You act like a gangsta, you should be treated like one.
If they act as gangsters there's obviously reasons that you don't understand, and I don't know half enough to understand them either, and it's not because of black culture, it's because of human culture, look at all the movies, rap artists, etc, a shit load if them are far fetched from real gangsters and just making money, also if you do want to divide culture into ethnic groups, please don't allow only rap and drugs in black culture, there's a bit more than that to it, and also don't forget old politicians detached from reality, heavy racism, america, idiocracy and strong industrial pollution in our so dear white culture :)
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They are not adapted for school, but then very few are, school should adapt to their needs as much as everybodys needs, a society where children have to adapt to a system is a sad empty society...
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How do schools adapt to their needs when all they want to do is smoke weed, get high, and rap about how many mils I got in my bank account? Everything in life just can't be handed to you. Like I said, they live in two-story houses, their parents drive big SUVs, they have Beats stereo. Move to Compton or something and act all ghetto if they want to. Go commit a crime. They just talk but don't do crap. Just a buncha wannabe gangstas.
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- Dude it depends ware you are. I lived in area ware the population is mostly Latino and Navajo at a uniform school in fact I don't remember seeing a black person in that school and I was one of six white kids. and they made the uniforms so stricked you could only ware specific color polos no black white green blue red yellow purple you could only ware gray or blush pink you are not allowed any form of jewelry this included decorative belts. and we still had the behavior you described and I went to a school that was mostly white and had this behavior.Is this still revelant?
You know some of us went to more than one public school in thair life I went to 10 hun
- A lot of it is a facade. They do care, it's just cool not to. You get more rep if you've fucked more girls or if you look tough and so people won't target you. To care about something is to express or show some vulnerability. And a lot of people are too scared to do that.Is this still revelant?
Well, not really. At least for me I know plenty of white boys who do the same. Part of it is the notion that black men gotta live up to the ideal of being cool and tough. I'd recommend the book "Cool pose, the dilemmas of black manhood in America" as it really goes more into depth about this. Also, if you don't want a book then netflix also has a documentary called "the mask you live in" which is more general, talking about boys in general not just black boys, but still puts forward a lot of the same reasons.
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If they want to act all tough and cool, why do they complain about how they are so oppressed by society. Everything to them is, "Oh, you think I'm a thug because I'm black?" If I walked around with my pants sagging and yelling fck the police, I wouldn't complain if people were scared of me.
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I think you fail to understand that the aggression is a response, not a provocation. When an animal is cornered and feels powerless it will fight back. I feel like there is no need for me to continue with this as the answer to your questions are in the sources i have provided. I'd strongly recommend them, as they will help you understand how to see things through their eyes which can be hard to do with people who may seem so different.
- Same reason some white kids don't care about school. Hell if you don't like it so much then ask them and encourage them. Be the one to make them change.Is this still revelant?
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If they don't care, drop out of school. Don't go to school just to clown around. It's a learning institution, not a zoo. And white people don't sing about smoking gas (slang for weed), fcking btches, and having millions in their bank accounts? Blacks do, of course. It's like the WHOLE black culture revolves around this nonsense.
Yes they do !!! Hell are you that ignorant? You can't just blame it on black people when when white people are the main ones buying the music and supporting the rappers.
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If they want to act all tough and cool, why do they complain about how they are so oppressed by society. Everything to them is, "Oh, you think I'm a thug because I'm black?" If I walked around with my pants sagging and yelling fck the police, I wouldn't complain if people were scared of me.
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I have no words for you. Your ignorance is making me lose brain cells. Im black and educated my family is educated. School is not for everyone and many of this kids lack motivation.
Im not considered that at all. If you don't like your school then take your ass to a private school.
I go to a diverse school. I've taken AP classes that were full of black students and it was perfectly fine. I've been to private schools. I've been homeschooled. I've done it all. I love all of my classmates
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19- Many African-Americans live in poverished neighborhoods with no role models or father figures to guide them to live the "white" way.
You know the study where it says if you hang around overweight people you may become overweight? It's like that but in being taught that education isn't important since its rewards don't pay as quickly as a life of crime.
It's ingrained in the cultures that many poor African-Americans grow up in that materials such as jewelry and expensive clothes are important because of the social pressures.
White people deny them the opportunities to get ahead in life, so that's how many African-Americans end up.
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Their parents drive big SUVs, they live in two-story houses, they have Beats stereos and the latest Iphones. You call that poor? They are far from the ghetto. If they want to be a gangsta, go commit a crime. Spend years behind bars. Move to Compton or something. All talk. They're just wannabes.
They're lower middle class, which in today's world isn't enough. And being middle-class, they go to school everyday with white people who have everything and they wanna be a part of that.
For what little disposable income many black families have, the social pressure to look like they're rich (buying an iPhone, renting an expensive car) keeps them from using their money more effectively.
None of this would happen if white people didn't keep black Americans from buying houses and having high-paying jobs, and that's why so many live in ghettos and apartment projects
- Whatever the race, I guess they don't recognise the value of education but they are required to go to school.
It's not about money, it's about attitude. Theirs and their family's.
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And it's usually black families that don't teach their kids about respect and education. I'm not saying that every single kid in the entire world should study every day and all become doctors. I'm just annoyed these kids talk about how they're so gangstas but they're just a buncha wannabes. Thank god I only have to deal with this for a few more years, then I'm done with high school.
You see less of this at University and in professional circles. Stay focused and do what you need to do to be successful.
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- school trains people to follow orders. it's an old industrial age way of training we never adapted. as far behavior... it's mostly for show. boys like competition. get a group of young boys with a disinterest in school and you will get class clowns. Im sure they don't care if they are hated... but the power is in the acknowledgement.React
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But white people don't sing about smoking gas (slang for weed), fcking btches, and having millions in their bank accounts? Blacks do, of course. It's like the WHOLE black culture revolves around this nonsense.
Then, they complain and whine about how they're so oppressed by society, so I think they do care if they are hated. How do you expect people to like you if you walk around, looking all smug, with your pants sagging, and talking about fck the police? They deserve every grain of hatred aimed at them. lol you know black history? hip hop started off knowledge based, and edgy with a side of reality. it's the huge companies that control which artist get exposure and not. many great artist are passed up for guys like little uzi, or 21 savage. when you have artist like rapsody and logic who get 0 radio play. much of the aspects dealing with black people are controlled. in the 80s the gov. made deals in Nicaragua to mass produce and ship crack into America prodominatly black areas. now we say why y'all on drugs so bad?
organizations like the black panther party were fought on every avenue to disrupt and disband their extremist groups, which only created schooling programs and assistance to help build the community financially and interpersonally. they have only been fully free from the brunt of racism for almost 60 years. that's in your grandparents lifetime. You can only imagine the advice that gets missed and passed down due to suppression by local police communities? with black people you can look like a "bad person"and boom now your either in jail or shot.
Im deviating though... I think you should talk to one of these boys that bother you and try to understand them on an even playing field.
remember school is only a small part in life, good grades are great but the memories you make will truly stay with you forever.- Show All Show Less
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Logic does get radio plays. His song with the suicide hotline number is now famous. I hear it on the radio all the time. Anyways, I'm not gonna talk to anyone who doesn't want to help themselves. These kids act like monkeys, but I don't care. I only have to deal with it at lunch and on the bus. In my accelerated classes, they're not present, luckily.
the way you compare them to monkeys, is the same way they probably see you. and as far as logic he's been dipping albums for years. he did so good by himself they couldn't keep him off the radio. he has 7 albums and you just got introduced to his last...
You are very young so I will assume you are just venting and not harness negative ideas about other "human beings"
We kicked the Nazis ass and the comfederacy for having that type of mindset and attitude for your neighbors.I think your a little bit bitter that these "black kids" are having a good times and don't even know you exist. Meanwhile your online compaining about said kids cause you've got no friends irl
didn't say anything about race. confederate had slaves fighting for them. the Nazis paid other cultures to aid them aswell. peace love and unity. instead of hate. educate.
- to be fair, its not the colour bu the mentality. i'm white but i couldn't see the logic behind school and fucked around consistently. had to work my ass off after graduating to get into uni when i figured out what i wanted to do.
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nah thats rap mentality. white guys think the same.
yeah these are cultural elements of the poorer side of black communities, but its not restricted to blacks at all.
- Why are you pissed off because black kids do something?
That's a high amount of hatred to have for a group of kids you don't know.
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- Hahahah all kids dont want to go school and just forced to do so XD.
Thats what they want or are expected to do or by culture. Actually there's a lot of reason why some and not all are like that too.ReactLike
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If they want to act all tough and cool, why do they complain about how they are so oppressed by society. Everything to them is, "Oh, you think I'm a thug because I'm black?" If I walked around with my pants sagging and yelling fck the police, I wouldn't complain if people were scared of me.
Hmmm. Its like studying like screw this upcoming test then afterward saying the test is so hard screw the teacher.
Blame others for what they are is a common thing. People do it all the time for no reason why.
We can only agree that the world is full of unique individuals which some we can't understand without going through what they are going through since birth. "We are who we are by everyday life around us"-culture- Show All Show Less
Probably but there are stories which dumb people for some reason are now on top of the corporate world too. I know some people did not even graduated high school and still get high position.
Basically just dont mind them if you dont want. :) have a great day
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- I respect you speaking your mind and shit but it's the same all these other retarded ass kids don't care. Just let them sink. It don't matter if they black yellow white or pink dumbass is still dumbass. If they wanna fail let them fail. You could do what I do and laugh they asses 24 in 7th grade😂😂 add me on the gram thoo red_hood_15React
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Thanks, and this is something we can agree to disagree on.
You find out that most of the kids who don't care have issues at home, don't have parents or just don't have guidance, and that's what black and Hispanic kids go through.
I mean, think about how your parents have already shaped the way you think. People who don't have that don't have someone to tell them they're talented and have a place in the world- Show All Show Less
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@Brian6044 It's crazy how you would reply to him, but never did to my comment, idiot. Like I said, these kids aren't poor. I've seen their moms and dads before. They talked about how their moms make the best cornbread and how their daddy's buying them a car. They weak Jordans while the white kids wear old, rusty boots and live in the rural area. Stop making excuses for them, please. You're an idiot. You've been brainwashed. Don't portray these kids as needing the world's love and compassion. They're stupid. Wild. Crazy. Let them sink.
It's really me, I promise. I'm not good-looking enough for people to wanna pretend to be me online 😂
The reason they talk about their dad buying a new car is it's a facade, they all just wanna fit in by owning expensive things.
I never have to talk about expensive things because I and the people I associate with don't really care that much.
Most kids who talk about having a Cadillac and Jordans don't have the money to buy a Cadillac and Jordans without breaking the bankI'm not defending them, I'm just answering your question as to why these people are the way they are.
Ghetto culture is all about having expensive things to hide the fact that they're actually broke.
They get so ashamed of being poor that they cope by buying expensive things they can't afford.
It's not just black kids though, it's Hispanic kids tooNone of them wanna live in poor neighborhoods where they're taught that being a criminal and selling drugs are the only way to make it out
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@Brian6044 Wish that was the case, but I'm telling you, these kids aren't poor. They're not millionaires or billionaires. But they don't have to worry about their next meal. I live in the same neighborhood as them but live in a one-story house. They're not poor. They're not all about that life. But they want to be. Just because they look up to people like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9crxPLT1k5M
That's their fault, not anyone's else. These kids want to be thugs. Just a buncha fake wannabe. They're not about that life. You're right, they are wannabes because a lot of them would rather become doctors or lawyers. But they would get laughed at if they ever said that's what they wanna do.
They're not struggling for meals but they can't afford to eat healthy even if they wanted to- Asker+1 y
@Brian6044 You're the kind of person who would defend a sane serial killer. You'd probably say, " It's not their fault that they killed people after people. People can be mean sometimes. They wouldn't have done this if people were nicer. Please don't take them to jail. They're a good person deep down." I'm done with this bull... Even if you're not trying, you're making all these excuses for these clowns. Don't reply if you're gonna say the same thing over and over again. About how they have bad lives and no one cares about them. Awww, they're cursing their teachers out and throwing gang signs because they're scared of people would think if they didn't act like thugs. That's so sad... Cut this crap out.
A sane serial killer can just decide not to kill. A black kid can't decide to just go home to a nice home instead of one that's full of family problems, cockroaches and drugs.
Why don't you research the psychological effects of living in poor and dangerous neighborhoods, or ask these kids what's going on at home before you judge them for who they are at school? You might learn something, or who knows, you might even get them to care about school.
All I can say is you're lucky to be white because you refuse to understand what minority groups have to jump through just be middle-class like you, and not barebones middle-class like eating ramen noodles every night. If I lived like that I would want to buy something expensive to keep myself from shooting my brains out."Just let them fail" is why millions of people are about to be without health care, which ensures that they have no way to survive if they ever get sick or injured. You see that a lot of these "middle class" black families don't have that, and they won't get it when the next bill passes.
- I've known many a white person to do exactly the same things.
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Obviously, almost everyone, including me, hate school, even though I'm a good student. Why on Earth would I want to wake up at 6 o'clock in the morning and be sit in a chair for almost 9 hours, when I could stay at home, sleep, eat, and repeat? But they're just a buncha wannabe gangstas. Their parents drive big SUVs, they live in two-story houses. They are far from the ghetto. If they want to be a gangsta, go commit a crime. Spend years behind bars. Move to Compton or something. All talk. They're just wannabes.
Again. I've known white boys that do the exact same shit, edgy high schoolers are all the same. I don't know why you choose to specifically complain about black kids doing it unless you have some sort of distaste for them specifically.
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I said in the details that black kids aren't the only ones. But the black students in my accelerated classes are all teased for being smart by the bad kids. These kids show up to school with Jordans and high tops while the whites show up with rusty, old boots and live on farms. You don't have to reply. I'm just describing it like how I see it. You're much older than me, so maybe your perspective is different. I'm still in high school.
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Obviously, almost everyone, including me, hate school, even though I'm a good student. Why on Earth would I want to wake up at 6 o'clock in the morning and be sit in a chair for almost 9 hours, when I could stay at home, sleep, eat, and repeat? But they're just a buncha wannabe gangstas. Their parents drive big SUVs, they live in two-story houses. They are far from the ghetto. If they want to be a gangsta, go commit a crime. Spend years behind bars. Move to Compton or something. All talk. They're just wannabes.
Lol true enough. Although you just described half the world's population.
I know a guy who insisted he was from "the north"
And he'd carry on as if he knew something about living in the north. He was from fucking Goderich. Basically as far north as Toronto. And for that matter I knew a guy from East Toronto who talked with an Alabama accent, for some reason
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