You nailed it.
Perfect. Upvote this forever
💚💚💚@DorkVader I’m looking at these responses from Women themselves, talking about someone “understanding women“ or not “understanding women” and I still don’t know what that means. 🧐Do you have any idea what a Women might be referring to as far as what it would mean to “ understand women” I know some guys will day to understand a guy means feed him and have sex with him and leave him alone.. obviously this isn’t a human being more like an infection. And doesn’t deal with operating in the real world.I really don’t understand ( like genuinely I’m not being sarcastic) what kind of understanding a person is supposed to have, outside of The context of the actual person. I am also not used to being around people who divide women and men down a line. Usually how you think of a person depends on a lot of other factors.Or I thought so. Now I’m wondering if people are actually thinking this way internally and just not saying it.I really do find this “ mystery” frustrating.. I don’t know what it means to understand a woman. I’m a woman and I understand myself but not on the basis I am or am not like another person who has same or different physical traits. Obviously I meet people I can relate to and people I can’t.It’s true that being the same sex, you may encounter similar struggles that another sex can’t relate to... but even this will also affect very differently depending on your environmental and what You do or do not have access to. A female de isn’t going to face the same problems that a female construction worker faces. For example.I’m just still wondering what Women refer to when they say understanding women” as if we are all the same. They just know Men are not all the same. Why would anyone assume Women are.
Maybe it is the frustration that ken are not trying to understand them at all as PEOPLE and they feel like it means they don’t understand them as women, bc the women they know do try to understand them as people.. I wonder. Bc I do knows some of guys ( I’m sure women too) will pretend to not understand when they just don’t feel like dealing with something or someone. So maybe this makes it feel like it’s kind of person they don’t get. Rather than that they are playing Games.And I guess if you play games yourself, It would be easier to believe you are something that needs to be “understood” .I don't know it STILL comes down to.. if you communicate clearly and I communicate clearly and neither of us are 5 years old, we stand a pretty good chance of being understood. Why not go from there 🤷♀️
I dont think it's possible to "know" everything about a person, let alone understand why they do a thing versus not. If there were an answer to this great mystery, psychology would be waaaaayyyyy more advanced. We can understand facts and features of another group or subset of a type of thing, but not every person is the same, and it's inaccurate to assume all women are the same. There are universal ways to get along and coexist happily with women or people, more about respect and willingness to listen and learn than to have actual encyclopedic knowledge of someone's life. It's muddy thinking. Understanding women is such a blanket statement. Understand "what" about women? About men? You can't answer a question without knowing what you're being asked/asking.
@DorkVader I for sure I agree!I wasn’t asking what it means to “ understand Women” I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on what it Is Women refer to when they talk about “ understanding Women” .. like what it means to them. I know some Guys often say it as an excuse to tune outBut I don’t understand what women themselves are referring To. I have no idea what that would mean to a person.. that they can be summed up in notes by people they haven’t met I didn’t assume you knew I just wondered if you know women who talk about “ understanding women” just I’m just curious lol And yes I know not all women who talk about understanding women will see it the same way.. I just wondered if you knew anyLol irl why I’m finding this so difficult to ask. It’s not complicated 😂😅
Lmao! No it's ok. It's lack of coffee on my end, for sure. I think the question is more about feminine mystique, the je ne sais quoi of what it is to be a woman and if others kind of enjoy cultivating this mystery. We can't know what it is to be each other, so it is assumed male and female are opposite somehow, not compliments?
@DorkVader I’m just wondering why women themselves think women are hard to understand.. or hard for men to understand. I know I can be confusing to people but that either means I’m not being clear or they don’t care to understand. I just don’t get feeling like I’m a kind of specimen.. and I wonder why women feel that way. I totally get How some men can assume it bc there’s a lot of oh women are mysterious and some do play it up.. I also think it may have to do with, how when you want someone they suddenly seem complicated. And often it’s women who want men and men who want women.But I doubt lesbians and homosexuals automatically understand each other either.I wonder.. maybe I’ll ask in a post but probably not enough sample size.So just to get clear I am only thinking of why women themselves think they are some kind of different species to be understood.. it makes me feel like I’m sone other species bc I don't know what they or men are referring to when they talk about understanding women Like we are not different species. none of us lol 🤦♀️ All human. Till we start becoming cyborgs then we’ll face another mysterious dating category. 😂
If I meant to say I agreed with you and I wasn’t saying you weren’t understanding.. I was saying I wasn’t being clear.It’s hard addressing what happens when people think there are Inherent things about THEM that other “Kinds” of people Don’t understand While people of THEIR “ kind” may also not know what they are referring to. Like how do you even ask that straightforwardly, Without it sounding like I’m saying I don’t understand “ women” bc I’m not like “ most women”.. Which is NOT what I’m saying I’m also NOT saying women think all women are the same.. but I don't know maybe SOME do.. I do not really think it gets at it though 🤷♀️
I think what you're expressing is about bias and how we need to categorize ourselves and others based on certain set types. It's a scientific thing we naturally do, but also something we learn socially as we grow up, ie stereotypes. Even once we learn certain biases aren't accurate or rooted in logic or good science, we still follow them. You're chomping at some deep thoughts here woman. This gonna take more research than you may have bargained for
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Meh, I've met more girls who were vague and superficial than guys. But I do agree that brain structure differences can explain some misunderstandings between men and women. Understanding some of those differences can give a framework or guidepost towards better understanding.
Sorry but this is complete bullshit. There's actually not much to understand about women at all.
@SomeGuyCalledTomI said there may be exceptions. ..@Chase7777Your answer confirms what I say.
I'm baffled at the amount of women thinking it's ok to write sexist shit against men. What is wrong with you?
I'm not talking about exceptions, I'm saying my observations are in direct opposition to your own. But that's okay, observations differ depending who you ask.
done many psychological studies have you?
Re; Your age , you know full well men dont operate in balls of confusion and really have 0 interest in it. Deception isn't our operating major either. Fundamentally , men are'nt interested in women who display such antics.
@Djaay I’m assuming you have have not dated men so it might be difficult for you to understand hiw they actually operate with women in a personal manner. If you have, sorry for the assumption. Guys definitely use “ confusion” as leverage or to avoid accountability.
it's all a gross power game to women.
@itsmatty Sure is. It's really funny. They want a confident, funny guy with heaps of charisma that understands them. But if a guy passes all her shit tests she freaks out because he's too smooth and she gets insecure because she thinks he's a player and that she'll get rejected at some point.
This right here, is exactly the situation in my opinion.Except that a man understanding you isn't him having the upper hand, its him standing on equal ground to you.The idea that, that is completely unacceptable to you is very telling.
Good point Ms Elessa! :)
That's special!Was he already taken? ... or he was much older?
Reading a woman means knowing when she needs help? Or I’m was it something else?
But isn’t there much more to being a Woman then “ needing help” ? Arguably needing help is human. I am not seeing how this gives anyone insight into any particular person? Not a Criticism. I’m really asking here. I don’t understand where you are coming from. I’d like to.
@VIVANT that was an example. But I guess my point is that if you learn to really read people in general it should be easier to read women. Like getting to know peoples non verbal cues and then applying that to women is not really different.
Well, the Green star is not offered but you definitely get the Gold Star today Mr GG!
There is no consensus amongst scientists on the “ wiring” argument. Real or confirmation bias. .What IS understood is everything else means very little compared to actual experience in beung human. We face the same life struggles. If not identical easily analogous to other struggles. having Brains that can abstract and use imagination, we are able to put ourselves in others positions. Human beings share common experience. They are able to understand each other if they try. Yet have to be interested and not get comfortable thinking of others as aliens as a justification to do nothing. When have you really tried to understand a person-who was not clinically off the charts insane - really tried, and failed?
@VIVANT under fMRI our response to stimulus triggers different parts of our brain. Men and women going through hormonal treatment during gender reassignment report the same changes in feelings and emotional response. These both indicate innate biological differences. I don't think that this is in question, what is is exactly how different we really are. Again there's this idea that some people have that these differences are trivial and I think that's an incorrect belief. I have no problem being different, I embrace it. It isn't a reflection on ability, it's just how we experience the world.
I don’t disagree there are differences. Everyone is different. Not just women and men. It isn’t enough to know someone’s sex to be able to understand them. hormones play a role but we don’t know to what extent especially bc we don’t even know all the hormones. What I’m suggesting it is not significant compared to all the other factors going into being human. We are all chemicals bit chemicals themselves don’t make up a conscience or personality. I also doubt gender reassignment cases are unbiased as they are already seeking to feel like what their definition of a “ real woman” or man is. And looking for proof of that.
You are so right and this falls directly in line with a question I just posted a second ago :)Guys, why are you so repulsed by girls who play "Hard To Get", but then girls who are "Easy To Get" you call sluts? ↗
bitches are bitchy.
Some guys do speak this way but The thing is those men who talk that way or think that way are not failing to understand anyone, they just have control issues and are being a hypocrite themselves. Not liking it when a person is direct is not being confused by them, it just takes away control. As long as you can pretend you don’t understand it is easy to avoid accountability and lay blame elsewhere. Guys who call women crazy or bitches are not confused, they are assholes
OK, I'll bite, what is the good part? ... lol
what if girls need their girl friend to come over and tell her, her secret when her boyfriend is next to her but doesn't understand anything
Ok, I get it... lol
Secrets about cheating on their boyfriends? Yea that's something men need to understand and detect
I agree.And I’ve experienced this. It is Tiring that every time someone happens to meet a poor communicator, they slap gender as their cause.
Communication is key on both ends! No one will know how each other is feeling if you don’t say it. Guys included when girls say we don’t open up and they can’t figure us out. Double edged sword with that one.
Your lucky I’m in my early 30s and yet to find a girl like that.
No offense, but most men are actually pretty straight forward.
Right when men says something he makes sure you get the message Women will make sentences that have billions different meanings
emails actually work the best even if you live together.
I’m so sick of hearing shit like this. You have no appreciation for women’s feelings. We’re the species that make you feel good about yourself. We’re the ones who root for ya in life, who support you, your stupid career that you hate, and what do we get? A dick in the ass.
@stardust101 "We’re the species that make you feel good about yourself. We’re the ones who root for ya in life, who support you, your stupid career that you hate," if this is true then you probably wouldn't be hearing sht like this. I just think that if this is you, you are an outlier and good for you.
@stardust101 Tell me what was inaccurate about what I wrote. Please be specific.I do appreciate women's feelings, except when they get angry at something that is completely irrational and then blame men for it.Men also root for women in life and support them. And the reason we men have those stupid careers in the first place is to financially support you women. Do you think we are in those careers that we hate because we want to be? You're welcome.The problem I have in all of this is that most women tend to blame men for not understanding them rather than acknowledging the fact that they are often emotional and irrational. I guarantee things would be better for all of us if you just owned up to it and showed us some gratitude for supporting you when you are like that rather than blaming us for not understanding you when in reality you are simply not understandable.And by the way, my wife loves a dick in her ass.
So what, you acting like a martyr and being passive aggressive because you hate your career is supposed to make us be grateful? Lol grateful for what? Why don’t you do your yourself and your wife a favor by finding a career you actually enjoy? That is a thing you know.
@stardust101 Wait, what? I'm the one acting like a martyr? Pot kettle black much?The funny thing about your career comment is that women complain that men earn more money than women, but women are generally much more likely to choose a career based on what they enjoy rather than which one earns more money. Huh, I wonder why women don't earn as much. lolGo sit in some cold water. It will ease your butthurt
Huh? Everything you just said makes zero sense. Actually, there’s plenty of careers out there that men love doing. Do they like it 24/7? No. But they enjoy it most of the time. And go sit on it
@stardust101 Actually, it all made perfect sense... to anyone who understand reason, that is. Since you appear to be challenged in that regard, I'll break it down for you.Do you understand the concept of a pot calling a kettle black? Your initial response to me here was dripping in self-pity and martyrdom, then you later accused me of being a martyr, making you a shining example of a pot in that scenario. Let me know if you're still struggling with that concept and I'll see what I an do for you.Yes, there are plenty of careers en enjoy, and the more enjoyable they are, the less they tend to pay. That's an economic concept about which there is plenty of information to be found on Google. It is a well understood and well studied fat that women tend to go into those more enjoyable and rewarding careers at the expense of compensation, thus ensuring women earn less on average than men. Again, a very simple concept. Let me know if you need ore hand holding on that one too..
If you think you understand women, you're exactly right. You THINK you understand women ;D
So that you can get quality women. You can hate the system of society and hate that women have it easier. Or you can go fuck it I'll put the work in because it benefits me in the long run.