That being said, if you have views on whether extremist feminists and marriage works, I'm curious on people's views
Do you think a women can be a feminist and a good wife?

That being said, if you have views on whether extremist feminists and marriage works, I'm curious on people's views
- No. A feminist hates men, period. You cannot blame men for everything wrong with the world and love men. You cannot claim that masclinity is toxic and not hate men. You cannot demand equality but then turn around and expect a man to be bound by his traditional gender roles (as ALL WOMEN DEMAND) and then say how its sexist for you to be expected to follow your traditional gender roles. You cannot enter into a relationship with some one where you are not equal to them and a feminist will never ever see a man as an equal. They will demand he be traditional then bitch and moan if he places ANY expectation upon him (he has to pay for dates, he has to be the provider (yes he does, no arguing this every stat shows it, the behavior of women shows it, you are no different then any of these other women no matter how much you may claim otherwise), he has to be the protector, he has to be the leader but at the same time you don't have to be nurturing, you don't have to cook or clean, you don't have to even have sex with him (hence why over a third of marriages are sexless (imagine if a man just stopped doing his duties, how long do you think that would be tolerated? Yet women can do it for decades and still claim that they are the victims)), and any attempt to get you to do any of this is sexist. Yet he has to treat you like your an equal i. e. he has to lead but you don't have to listen and if he tries he is sexist, but if he doesn't he isn't a real man. the list goes on.).
So no, a feminist (who doesn't want equality otherwise you would be arguing for why women need more RESPONSIBILITIES and men need more rights rather then the opposite because statisticallly you are better off in every respect with no exceptions, you have more legal rights then men do and men have jack shit and still feminists and women demand more from themI (they have been bled dry to the point where even the slightest kindness from a woman is seen as the greatest thing in the world (that is how low our bar is, just don't fuck us over thats all men ask for and in general they are still asking for to much from women).
So no, you cannot hate men and be in a functional relationship with them, you cannot demand everything in a relationship and give nothing in return and it end up being functional, that should go without saying.Is this still revelant?- Asker1 y
Wow, you really hate feminist extremists...
I agree in part when your idea, that you can't have a fuctional relationship if you expect something and are unwilling to put the same onto the relationship.
What is your opinion on couples who are a little less into traditional gender roles? Possibly those that are more equal in terms of how they divide work and home activities? Not extremist, feminists. Saying feminist extremist is like saying racist extremist, sure one is worse then the other but both are bad. In order to be a feminist your basic premise is that women are oppressed by men i. e. that all women are victims and all men are evil oppresors. That is your foundational belief which all else is built off of. Now ignoring that this is provably false, its a hateful ideology to claim that an entire gender is just inherently evil and bad. You cannot claim to be for equality if you do not believe we are equals and you cannot believe we are equals if you believe that all men hurt women, that all men secretlly enjoy keeping women down, that all men are responsible for every bad thing to happen to you in life.
In order to believe that women were oppressed through out history you have to completely ignore all of women's privilege (and it was and is substantial (more so then men's in fact)) and completely ignore men's responsibilities. This is precisely what feminist have done. They say we are not equal because women don't get respected as authority figures like men do. Fine, but who's fault is that? Men fight each other for that position, they get racked through the coals to get to that point, they put in the hours, they take the abuse and women simply refuse to do that. You cannot expect to get the same outcome without putting in the same work but again, this is what feminists demand.
Feminism demand that women be exempt from responsibility and that men get exempt from humanity (as we are not seen as human beings by feminists (again, when an entire group tells you that you that you are monsters you can't then turn around and claim to see them as people, those are mutually exclusive view points.).Now as for your question of non traditional relationships, well I think they are doomed to faillure. It ignores biological drives and desires. Statistically women do not marry "down" economically speaking. On the rare case that you have a woman who makes more then her husband she is more likely to cheat, divorce, and be unhappy in the relationship because biologically she is looking for a man to provide for her even if she can do it herself. This is biology not society. Women also want to be with their children and raise them and men want to provide for their children, again this is biology not society and fighting against it is a rather futile battle.
Now that said, I personally have no issue with others doing that as its their life to live and no one has the right to stop them. I think its going to fail, but I hope it doesn't obviously but I don't think it will succeed (but maybe you will be in the 1% that manages to make it work and be happy with the outcome).
My issue is that every woman wants a traditional man while being untraditional themselves. Its the hypocrisy that bothers me, not the attempt at "equality". If you are exempt from traditional gender roles so is he, period. Anything less then that is sexism. So you have to pay your half of the bill EVERY TIME. You have to step up and make plans as frequently as he does, you hear a noise or feel like your in danger you are as obligated to fight and endanger yourself on his behalf as he is you. You do half of the heavy lifting, half the dirty jobs, half of all bills and this includes rent/morgage etc. On holidays you spend on him as much as he spends on you (statistically men spend four times on women then women spend on them for holidays (for valentines day I believe it goes up to about 8 times as much).
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If your willing to do that (and again, I highly doubt this will be the case as statistically women don't tolerate this ("rules for thee not for me" is the general motto of modern women and specifically feminists)), then I'd say go for it. To me that seems more like a roommate rather then a romantic partner and I don't understand the appeal but if its how you want to live your life, again, no one has the right to try and force you to live it differently. My only issue is again, your fighting biology and in almost every instance women do not tolerate men who do not provide and who do not protect and who do not lead (you can't expect him to be a leader and not follow, its like being a manager but with absolutely no authority at that point you just can't do anything and the job is meaningless. Same goes for relationships, women want him to lead but they don't want to have to respect his authority either which just creates massive disfunciton and disharmony within the relationship).
So its one or the other, their is no "more equal" in the division because that just means you get to do the things you want to do and he is nothing more then a tool for you to use (this is how most relationships are today. He has to do everything he traditionally does and she doesn't (which is why statistically men actually work slightly more then women do when you take into account all work (yet get absolutely no credit for anything they do and are told that they are lazy and worthless and how they as fathers are not important etc. etc.). So either the rules that you are bound to are the rules he is bound to or your just using and exploiting him (You both play by the same rules, thats fair isn't it? Whether those rules are traditional or non traditional isn't really the relevant point, its that both parties are bound by the same expectations and rules).
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- I doubt it. Every married couple I know with a feminist wife, she truly is the master of the man, and he is a damn soulless slave. I watch one friend turn zombie under feminist wife rule. Others that I know the woman is always picking a fight over trivial shit. It appears to be a continuous war from the outside. Finally, I grew up that way and a feminist mother is very abusive to all around her. I was locked up in a kennel with the dog at 2yo so she could go out and get some strange. It was a continuous unstable life. I had a job at 8yo and left permanently at 13yo. I was the only sibling that didn’t die or commit suicide. I am all there is remaining from a feminist marriage. That liberal feminist shit is insanity; I know through blood. It is best feminists remain alone for all including any offspring.Is this still revelant?
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- I think it depends, the definition of feminism and what some women classify as feminism worries me the same as men. I only support the concept of it because I want equal pay but, according to my boyfriend, he says I'd make the perfect wife. I still cook, he helps out with what can, I can clean and he again helps out how he can but, I still go to school and live my own life. I think personally feminism supports the idea that a woman shouldn't have to cook and clean, but have no life besides her man, but again some bits of feminism makes me worried that we don't give the men who do support the women in their lives enough credit.
So I guess it depends on what you think makes a good wife and what is feminism?Is this still revelant? - Whh.. What is your definition of a "good" wife? I feel like every thing should be equally divided between me and my future husband! Like I am going to work too. I can't like take care of the kids, cook and clean the house by myself. It has to be divided! 👍🏾Is this still revelant?
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418- The word "feminist" describes an adherent to the ideology of a particular movement. Many people claim to hold to the goals the movement claims, but these aren't the movement's actual goals (and never really have been, but that's a different story). This is the route of a lot of conflict on the issue; those who know the theory vs those who've dealt with the reality.
One can certainly be a good wife and an advocate for women, or for equality between the sexes (though in this day, age, and country few women would actually want that, as it'd mostly be a step down for them), and still be a good wife, though.ReactLike
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- Anonymous1 yA woman who is against the abuse of women from Islam, Communism, Trafficking, and Politicians is fine in my Book. However, one who supports abortion, the promotion of LGBTQ+, and sex out of marriage isn't marriage material in my Book. No good leader wants a mindless drone and I fully expect input from the wife, but the other extreme isn't desirable either. If she is concerned about women, I say that's a good thing. However, there is an objective right and wrong, if she doesn't believe Jesus, she isn't marriage material.React
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As a massive pro-choicer and not religious, I am far from your wife material XD
But everyone has the right to pick who they feel would be their ideal mate and the right to say no. I hope you find (or have found) the right person for you - Opinion Owner1 y
Never said you were, but there are women who claim to be feminist that are pro-life as well. The claim in of itself isn't a concern, but what she means by it. Wanting to add input is desired, controlling output is not. There are issues that face women that should be addressed, but how they are addressed is dependent on world view. All I'm saying is the title alone doesn't impact a woman's viability, only her world view. The women's company I entertain don't call themselves feminist, but still concern over women's matters. Some women call themselves feminist, but realize they a physically vulnerable and enjoy working with men. A woman like that is in a better place for marriage.
- Anonymous1 yIt depends on where you live. It you are in Africa or the Middle East, I think the answer is yes. Women on those places are still disadvantaged and oppressed to varying degrees and pure feminist ideology can help them.
But if you live in the US, Canada or western Europe, the answer is definitely no. In those places we are seeing what happens when feminism is allowed to persist much, much longer than it should. Modern western feminism is toxic, divisive and harmful to society, and to both genders.
It is not just the term "feminism" that is the the problem. Modern western feminism is no mystery. The facts are readily available to anyone who is paying attention, and they are really not open to interpretation.
To answer your question, I live in the US and there is no way in hell I would marry a woman who identifies as a feminist. No woman who identifies as a feminist in the West will make a good wife.ReactLike
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- Anonymous1 yMaybe, but usually feminists are very into having a career and making money.
That's fine in a marriage, but if a couple has kids, things either go back to traditional gender roles real quick or she's never around and the dad ends up being emasculated, stuck at home with the kids and eventually cheated on.ReactLike
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From my own experience both working is not the best way to parent.
A child really benefits greatly from having at least one parent at home. It's important to bond with your children when they're small if you want them to listen to you.
Also in my experience, the male staying home can lead to the woman losing respect for him over time and wanting out of the relationship.
The partner that works away from home is way more likely to cheat and since women get more attention in general it's just more likely to happen eventually.
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That seems fair. I do hope this is not always the case, as it would make me worry for my sister and brother in law. They both work hard, and my sister isn't giving up her job when the baby arrives (that being said, it is good that at least she can work from home at the moment as she gets very tired)
- Being a feminist and agreeing with certain tents are too different things. Being a feminist in the Uk shows a lack of understanding. Doesn't mean they can't be a good parent but it does mean they hold certain beliefs about society that can hold back their children.React
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- Anonymous1 yNo. I mean if you understand what modern feminism is well enough to identify as one and you still call yourself a feminist, you are by definition a shitty human being and therefore will not make a good wife. It's one thing to support the ideals that feminism fought for many decades ago, but today feminism is nothing like it used to be. Today's feminism is just a bunch of sexism and lies.React
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Unfortunately in many cases yes, I dislike extremist feminists as they seem to play the blame game and ignore the real issues. The real idea of feminism was about equality, and I feel this idea has been tainted... then again what term doesn't get boicotted for someone's agenda?
What is your view on relationship where traditional gender roles are swapped, or both are more equal between the tasks? - Opinion Owner1 y
I have no problem with relationship where traditional gender roles are swapped, or both are more equal between the tasks. People should do what works for them and not push their biases on others, which is what feminism does. Feminists are very judgmental of people who don't toe their party line and they shame women for choosing more traditional roles, which is terrible. There is nothing wrong with traditional relationships, in fact they are better in some ways, certainly for the children. But this is just one of the ways in which feminism is harmful. There are sooo many others. I am all for equal rights and gender fairness, but despite what it claims, feminism is not about those things at all. If it was, almost everyone would support it. But there are very good reasons why the vats majority of people don't support it today.
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- Anonymous1 yOf course it depends on the woman, but generally, no. Feminism has turned into something I will never want to be a part in.React
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- I have no interest in any activists. I fully support equality but activists to me are a massive turn off.React
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- If she's for gender equality, possibly. If she's about female supremacy, nope.React
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- I doubt it. Many of them can't get far enough with guys in dating much less marriage. They're a Major Turnoff.React
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- Not an American feminist but I think like an Asian one would be tolerable. Feminism over there actually means equality.React
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- Women are treated wrongly for a long time, I think it's good as I dislike most men for that reson too.React
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- Anonymous1 yYes, it's obviously possible with not with any type of men. Do you have more options as a woman with a traditional mindset? Yes. Do you want more options? I don't.React
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- like, women can run a race if a man can, typa feminist? if so, yeaReact
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- Whether a woman's Feminism is at stage one cancer, or stage four cancer, it is all cancer.React
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- First and second wave? Yes
Third wave? NoReactLike
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First wave was the Sufferagett movement in the beginning of the last century. The second wave started in 1963 with a book "The feminine mystique." Third wave is now.
Sufferagetts were looking for the vote, I believe black men had the vote before them (might have been 3/5 vote).
Second wave was when the men returned from war the women returned home, but they realized they could be more than a housewife. The could have careers and independence.
Third wave is everything you see going on now. TERF is just one example.- Show All Show Less
I think most people are rational but all we hear is all the noise of the 8% making a fuss. Most of us are just living our lives.
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- Anonymous1 yno!!! Feminist cannot be a good wife in my opinionReact
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