Has Feminism done anything good for women?

[MCheetah]

Well, second-wave feminism *somewhat*, *kinda* helped to get women's civil rights passed in America and Europe in the mid to late 1960s, although that was well on its way to happening as a result of a wage gap (yes, it was actually real, once upon a time) of outsourcing male workers for cheaper female workers, which began back in World War II. At first, the female workers replacing males who were fighting in war legitimately were less skilled than their male counterparts. However, many of these jobs were office jobs in the start of the service industry (telephone workers, office workers, secretaries, etc) where being physically larger and stronger weren't necessary to do a good job.

So basically, second-wave feminism hopped on a train of gender pay equality and civil rights for African Americans, that was already out the station and well on its way to its destination. Yes, they did help contribute, but it likely would've happened, on its own.

This is in STARK contrast to the myth of the suffragettes, the late stage first-wave feminists. So many people believe lies and fiction about them "giving women the right to vote." The suffragettes were literally the ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter of their time, and EVERYONE, especially women, hated them! They were rioters and arsonists. Men, by 1909, had only barely had universal voting rights, even though both genders had voting rights if they owned land, already. So by 1910, the start of the suffragettes, men had only barely had voting rights on their own. This was about to be extended to women, until the suffragettes came onto the field, and basically f*cked that up, entirely. They legitimately delayed suffrage for women by a good nine years, THAT'S how much they ruined things. By history, or at least liars, like to paint them in a more positive light. Even IF they had good intentions (and its unsure if they did), they legitimately made things worse for women, than better. It'd be like, a hundred years from now, trying to claim ANTIFA got gay marriage passed in America and "ended the reign of the tyrannical Donald Trump." Complete fiction with tiny sprinkles of actual events in there. That's what the suffragettes were: borderline domestic terrorists who actually HURT women's suffrage by nine years and delayed it until 1919, when the public basically got sick of their crap and decided to go forward with it, anyway.

And then third and fourth wave feminism? Yeah, we all know by know how sh*ty and toxic that is. Third wave has been around since the early 90s and is responsible for the "patriarchy, wage gap, rape culture (and sometimes, Pink Tax" bullsh*t we all know of, nowadays. They've literally never done anything good for society. Fourth wave is the Twitter/Tumblr/Reddit feminism we see nowadays, where "intersectionality" comes into play and white men and "CIS" (non-trans) people are seen as a problem, too. They're arguably even WORSE than third wave.

Ironic in some parts, but appropriate in others, the people who understand feminism the very least tend to be self-proclaimed feminists. The ones who spout demonstrably unfactual, incorrect bullsh*t like "feminism is just about gender equality" (which has literally never been a thing in any wave of feminism). No one knows less about feminism than feminists. They don't even know what they're fighting for, most of the time, as most feminists tend to be upper middle class, First-World, college-educated predominately white women who never had to struggle or work hard in their entire lives. This kind of explains their vast ignorance on the ideology they claim to be a part of. Paradoxically, the ones who understand even LESS about feminism are the Gender/Women's Studies majors in college. But I guess, when you pay money to be part of a cult, that would happen.

Make no mistake: a "radical feminist" is an oxymoron. You either think less of women and their capabilities and hate/envy all men (a feminist), or you don't, and you're a normal human being (egalitarian/a everyday decent person). Feminists hate women almost as much as they hate men and themselves.

*THE TL;DR:* Only second-wave feminism has EVER benefited society in any way, shape, or form. All other waves of feminism has been detrimental to society, especially women, and does nothing but spread hate, misandry, fear, and paranoia in women, and feminism should rightfully be outlawed.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Well, that is up to interpretation. Feminism has definitely made changes to the world we live in, but the problem is with their mindset. Feminism was born of a Utopian Socialist, and it retains the Utopian attitude of "My way is the one true way... everything else is treason!". Any time a woman ever speaks up about wanting to stay home and live with traditional gender roles, there is always that one Feminist who calls her out as being wrong. Feminism has also forced its worldview on all women instead of letting them choose what is best for them. Women are expected to go to school, and work just mike men, and the increase to household income has changed the economy. Back when families lived off one income everything was cheaper and smaller. It was possible for a single parent to raise a family. Now it is much harder. I know a handful of women who resent the fact that they are expected to work, and that the economy has permanently adjusted to a 2 income household hurts that even more. Also, there is talk of possibly drafting women to war. That's another example of forcing a worldview on women who might not want it. With all that said, it's your own personal opinion that matters. In the end that is the only thing that matters

[RoxyFoxx]

Feminism gave women:
1. The right to vote,
2. The right to keep their property after marriage (read about 'couverture'),
3. The right to stand for elections, including the post of President or Prime Minister,
4. The right to get an education, including higher education,
5. The right to work in other professions besides teacher, nurse, secretary or waitress,
6. The right to not be talked about as a sex object to be hunted,
and many other things I'm too lazy to list here.

Of course, like any other movement, it has its crazy psychopaths, like Big Red. But they're not the whole movement any more than the entire conservative movement is a bunch of Nazis.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

You mean aside from getting us the right to vote, recognizing women as people and not objects of property (like cows), allowing us the right to run for office, allowing us to own property, allowing us to work, securing equal pay, and many many more things?

Oh, and also for the many benefits feminists past have implemented not only for men but for women?

A ton of good things.

Now, if you're talking about Tumblr radfem "social justice"? That shit hasn't done anything but fracture communities and encourage toxic masculine and feminine stereotypes.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it has destroyed male/female relationships. Discouraged motherhood. Encouraged women to engage in uncommitted sex. All of that ensures that many of them will be miserable and lonely older women who then blame men for not wanting them when they finally decide to settle down and have a family with the first sucker they find that can support them.

Instead they will be cool wine aunts who have multiple neurosis, too many cats, prescription and alcohol addictions and no family in their later years.

Yay for feminism

[wittymilf]

You mean aside from getting us the right to vote, recognizing women as people and not objects of property (like cows), allowing us the right to run for office, allowing us to own property, allowing us to work, securing equal pay, and many many more things?

[shinnaeun]

Um yes, feminism is why women can vote, women can be a political figure, why women get equal pay and so on... The only problem is now feminism has become a nasty or toxic term because of those radical feminists.

[TemplarKnight]

No. It destroyed their femininity, forced them to choose careers over family, made many of them end up old, lonely and bitter (30yo+ unmarried women with no kids or husband) destroyed marriages, destroyed their bodies through abortions and birth control, fat acceptance, encouraged them to hate men, which in turn gets men to hate women, destroying the social fabric of society by destroying gender relations. It has also made women more depressed cause studies show careerist women are unhappier than stay at home moms.

[Anonymous]

Which feminism?

Feminism of 50 or 100 years ago? You could argue that it helped women, although there is also a very strong argument to be made that all of the advancements in gender equality would have happened naturally without all the sexism and division feminism has created.

Today's feminism? Not so much. It's a toxic, hate driven, sexist ideology that has driven a wedge between the sexes and done so much more harm than good.

Any claim that feminism has helped men is clearly bullshit. the small benefits men have experienced from so called gender equality, again, happened as part of natural societal evolution, and are far outweighed by the harm done to men, boys and gender relations.

[cnhinton]

Darn tootin'

Women should have never been allowed to vote.

And women getting jobs?

Give me a break.

Glad to see a fellow brown shirt owning those dumb libs on the interwebs.

[Sirocco]

Of course it has. Feminism is simply the push for equality. I’m so tired of explaining this to men who think because it is called ‘feminism’ it I means that the scales are tipped in favour of women. Liken it to people who say ‘all lives matter’. It’s not the point. My younger sister is awesome and its so unfair that she hits barriers that men don’t. Recognising ones male privilege is key. I’m proud to be a feminist

[Nalix]

The biggest issue with feminism is that it sells itself as equality while its actions reflect almost exclusively female supremacy or at the very least rights without corresponding responsibilities. It is also based on a cult-like belief that women are and have been repressed by men throughout history, which simply does not resemble reality. Like most cults, it would not be any great concern if it were not for the massive influence it has over governments and the levers of power in general.

[The_unknown_memer]

Pick a history book and read it , feminism is the reason why women get to vote , hold careers and have personal freedom.
It has helped men a lot as well

[apimpnamedslickback]

Sure now they get to work at a dead end job and dedicate their lives to pointless careers like men do. They can also sleep around and catch STDs just like men.

[Anonymous]

Feminism was originally designed to get women the right to vote. 2nd wave feminism was to get women equal rights in employment. Feminism really started go wrong with the subsequent iterations.

[Olivier-628]

In the old days. Yes.
Now those who make actually do find a disadvantage. Yes
These attention seekers? Quite the opposite.

[Unit1]

Working
Education
Driving
Voting

That's all I am aware of. Good thing those were achieved in the 1. st world countries.
I anticipate lots of butthurt blue downvotes.

[Anonymous]

It's done nothing good for women, and nothing good for beta males. Only for those of us who now get plenty of free easy sex with thots without ever having to marry them.

[Anonymous]

Feminism accomplished some important things for women, but that was all a very long time ago. For the last few decades feminism has been increasing toxic and divisive and today it does far more harm than good to both men and women.

[JohnO45]

Yea, now you can treat women like dudes and they don't get any special treatment.

[RolandCuthbert]

Has non-feminism done anything for women?

[In_Trance]

Nothing