Are men just as complicated as women?

[AmandaYVR]

No, they're not.
They're also not simplistic, or as straightforward as they sometimes claim to be, but they are generally not as complicated as females.

Females live in a world of intricate detail and sensitivity, and minutia, when it comes to the inner world of emotions and feelings, relationships, spoken and unspoken words, meanings, and the interconnectedness of things.

'Emotions' run the gamut and it's an oversimplification for anyone to claim that they are easily encapsulated by crying and personal opinions. It really irks me that some men try to sit on their throne of "we're logical; you're not" because they have feelings and opinions and emotions too. They've just been taught to suppress the sensitive ones, for fear of ridicule. If logic truly guided them in all good directions, we wouldn't have nearly the problems we do (proven by the fact that male relationships are not without their own complications, layers, and hidden meanings.) I'm not blaming men. I'm saying that we are all guided by our feelings about things.

But to be fair to men, they don't take personal offence to nearly as many things. They also speak so bluntly, so "honestly" (which is a justification for spewing opinions whenever they see fit, sometimes), so off-the-cuff at times, it's no wonder females get offended. Females hold back these thoughts, typically, understanding that 'feelings' pass. Tomorrow, or next week, they may not feel the same. And often no good comes from giving them oxygen. So I appreciate this judiciousness and self-restraint in women. Society wouldn't function if we all blurted out every thought and opinion we had, at any given time. Not even to lovers (which for some reason, some men think should fall into a different category of "truth at all times; ugly or not.") Guys get hurt too, but generally speaking they more easily will brush off minor comments that they didn't agree with, or want to hear. And they are generally a bit more satisfied, once the basic needs of life are met. Roof over their head, food, sex, affection and companionship, downtime, some laughs, no health or financial stress, and they're pretty content. Their minds tend to quiet down, under the right circumstances. Female minds are often purring or whirring away, thinking and analyzing the latest interaction, and what's on the agenda for tomorrow.

[Apple1996]

Men aren't simple like they always say. Trust me they all have layers and it's hard to get into those layers. Makes it hard to figure out who they truly are on the inside.

[MrOracle]

In some ways, sure, men can be complicated, but in a number of ways, we are far simpler than women.

Generally, men are much more direct about what they think and what they want, and especially what they mean. Men rarely use subtext - we say what we mean and we mean what we say, and women are forever asking "what did he mean?" when he clearly meant exactly what he said - no more and no less.

Men also have pretty simple wants and motivations. We want comfort (so we work hard to make money), we want sex, we want love, we want food, and we want time to relax. Almost all men would relate to that list.

Men are logical and problem-solvers, and that means having to acknowledge the reality of a situation no matter if it's good or bad. If the car is broken or the water heater is leaking or whatever, we don't get upset - we evaluate the situation and, we either get to work if it's within our skill level, or we call an expert, but we evaluate the reality, and set aside our feelings so we can solve the problem - knowing that the problem being solved will resolve our feelings anyway.

[Pasiton5]

Times have changed years or a generation ago men were not as complicated as today is was you grow up go to college get a good job with a pension retired live on social security now it's do I go to college I don't know dude why ain't gonna learn much cept to get drunk besides I got this program I wrote for this social site and in a year hey dude how's college it sucks man but you your a billionaire I know dude ain't it cool glad I didn't go to college and men I noticed today are softer weaker not do it your selfersi mean don't even know how to change a flat tire instead with rather wait 5 years for triple a to come do it and are just as fussy as women are about everything some even worse so yeah they are if not more so complicated thanks women's lib and me too movement and why is so many people same sexting weird just odd even on tv shows got guys acting girly like they have a bit more estrogen testosterone I'm not saying a dude got to be macho with his chest out flexing all day but dudes today are just not the same

[SnowyOwl]

There are simple people of both genders.
Id people in general are complicated when they are not self-aware, especially if they have issues.

I met guys with serious issues in their life who are just oblivious to the fact because they go about daily life as if everything is ok. Surprise one day the issue hits them, and they just crawl up into a box of 0 communication with anyone who brings up the issue.

In my experience, childish people are most often guys, and that is pretty complicated. Because they dont know how to deal with serious parts of their lifes, and that can be problematic to themselves and people around them.

I feel like there are immature girls for sure, but the issue with girls is most often that they are overthinkers (most often than guys).

An immature girl that overthinks is complicated because she'll be worried about 1000 things and not say it. Which is emotionally damaging to herself and she doesn't even know.

But I don't think that a guy who avoids issues and goes about life with impending traumas is any better.

In either case, improving communication skills is the solution. And these skills should be taught in school, honestly.

[Jjpayne]

It depends on the man but for the most part I think women have a system in their life and a way they think. Here's an interesting example, how many things are you currently thinking about right now? I think on average men think about less and stress less than women do. There is also the idea of setting things up so your have your house just the way you like it.

But overall... You have to wonder how many women want things a certain way and think about many things at once...

I think there has to be some that overlap on both genders but I'm interested to see if female gender has these qualities more often then men do 🤔

[Unit1]

I saw some very complicated "men". These "men" hate career corporate businesswomen (how did they say? Like nobody cares about their masters degree? What made these "men" think, that these career women care what these "men" think of them anyway?) and they also hate gold diggers and they also complain how those $0 earning housewives are draining their personal finances. You literally can't win. So you do what you like and send everybody else, who doesn't add anything of value away.

Me I am simple. A strong and independent woman, who showers me in love (massages me) and has sex with me on the regular and doesn't nag about shit, that can't be fixed fast and I am content.

[Anonymous]

The problem isn't that men are complicated. We're not. We're unbelievably simple. And that is the problem. We are more simple than women can believe. Which is why they always overthink what a men says and does, instead of taking the simple face-value explanation.

Women know that they are complicated. They understand each other though.
Men do not understand women - women get frustrated when men don't understand them. And yet they can't wrap their heads around the solution to this - men do not understand the level of complexity of women, and yet men have no problem understanding other men.

It's because men are very very simple. But it's kind of pointless telling that to women. They literally seem incapable to believing it.

[Lionman95]

Guys say they are simple because they know why they act like they do. From female´s point of view, they aren´t simple because females act and think completely different. If you understand why a guy does what he does, you might find his behavior simple. It´s simillar with guys if they understand why females do what they do, it´s easier to understand and aknowledge a woman´s behavior.

[Makeushiver]

I think human beings are complicated. What we call thoughts are usually feelings that we justify as carefully thought through opinions when in reality they almost all started as feelings and became idea when we unknowingly intellectualize them. The comic, Lenny Bruce once commented on one of the intricacies in relationships by saying men want women to be a whore and a nin at the same time,

[Yads_Is_Back]

They’re simple. TOO simple. That can be good! Except when they think about everything so logically like ugghhhh you gotta consider emotion as a factor.

Let’s face it: we women are the complicated ones. When I call men complicated usually I mean I just don’t understand their simplicity lol

[DeeToPlay]

This antiquated idea that men are suffering from the lack of having emotional traits and behavioral issues is assinine, we cry and some become hysterical during moments of grief or uncertainty. We both laugh and love and are composed by multi layers. The journey of getting to truly know a man is just as confusing as the travels to get to the essence of a woman.

[SirBearon]

No we are not more complicated at all. It's not even close! To the women who put yes, you women are the ones who over complicate things in your own mind when it comes to us. Men are very simple basic humans. We are mostly routine and need a basic structure to things. Women are by far the most complex beings on the planet. From periods, to childbirth to menopause to make up to orgasm to... well you get the point. There is no way on this planet men are anywhere close to being as complex as women. Not physically, not emotionally, not psychologically.

[RawIronhide]

Yeah, there's a whole world going on in our heads too, I think we just focus on different topics and are far less vocal about it but both genders have people with nothing going on upstairs. I think men are more selective thinkers, we can turn it off better when trying to destress. That's why when you ask "what are you thinking about?, the answer is always "nothing" it's because we're destressing after thinking all day.

[Cythera]

Yes. (I’m talking about my personal experiences with my partner) They like to make things harder than they should be. They complain about when you take too long to get ready, they have zero patience, they put on whatever and sometimes don’t even care. They sleep too much, they feed you so much junk, they’re just as complicated🥴

[motownplayer2000]

Some women are complicated. Not all. Some women are actually quick easy.. I mean if you have money, or material things, or a means to get a woman something. She will follow you... I have rarely, and by rarely I mean I can count (maybe twice) the number of times I have come across a truly complex woman. Most men aren’t either. But I think men have a different thought process so it’s perceived as being simple. Not saying they are more complex than women. But it’s a different thought process altogether.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

Lol the fact that you believe that women are complicated says a lot about you. Women operate almost entirely in an agreeableness system to the degree that they don't really even have personal opinions or know how to express them confidently if they do. They say what the group they want to impress wants to hear, they join ideologies so they don't have to think, and they are more susceptible to group think so they can love without individual responsibility.

Compared to the complexities of men, women are single celled organisms intellectually and socially.

[JKingOff]

Lol, no. We're really not. In fact most guys do their best to try and make sure people don't think of them as complicated, especially since we hate it when women like to overcomplicate things. Most guys usually tend to take the straight forward approach. Doing that usually saves us a whole lot of time and hassle.

[Jaximus-Lion]

There is men that are complicated, but if we put it in numbers/precentage they are not that many. But many men are brain washed with the macho mentality which the precentage is higher than complicated ones

[Anonymous]

What makes people "complicated" is the lack of communication that's usually there. But while we can be, generally no. If you don't try to analyze what we say and take it at face value, there's nothing to "figure out". But I also get it, women don't tend to ask what they really want to know directly, so that makes it hard for you. And sometimes as a woman, you can't relate to it.

[brennanhuff]

Maybe not to the exact extent women seem to be, but much more complicated than women may think or others. I think it's just that men are often less vocal about their feelings or thoughts or keep them within or don't feel as much of a need to share them. That women or society might feel men aren't that complicated, but I think men are. I mean, I know I am anyway and guys I know are also.

[Oigit]

Like many things in life, it comes down to the individual. People over the years have said that I am complicated then most. I suppose that in some ways I am. Also I'll be straight forward and say that when it comes to dealing with someone, I can be extremely complicated. Simply because it makes people less inclined to try and get close to me, without creating any issues between them and I.

[AlJamie]

Sort of. Society is kind of difficult for us from point of view of stereotype. Talking about feelings can be pretty difficult due to a historical pressure on us to be the shield etc, so many men just sort of give up. From a romantic point of view, I have never met a guy with particularly high standards. I'm not a very social person, but in my experience we just want someone who we can relax around, talk to and won't hurt us.

[Anonymous]

so men can be complicated ig, personally I try not to be. If something bothers me I'll say it. If I get pissed off I'd rather be left alone and I'd make that clear. Usually by telling the person "I just want to be left the fuck alone rn" then when I have a chance to calm down I try to talk to them calmly about it. I like to think I'm level headed and easy to understand