Why are some of y'all men so blatantly misogynistic to women? why are we not viewed as equal human beings to you?

- Equal? Here’s the truth. Women are not equal to men and they don’t want to be. I was always taught to put women on a pedestal and treat them like queens. For my effort I don’t get dates and when I do date they cheat. Every single time.
Should I respect you if this is all I see of you? No. Men are tired of double standards and as the standards shift more and more in women’s favor men will hate you more and more.
Look at the law. Alimony, sexual assault, child support/custody, abuse. These are a few of the many things women just straight fuck men over with the law on their side. Men are second class to women. You women have always held the power. You hit a man he has to take it without hitting back or we go to jail. You accuse were guilty losing jobs, schooling, friends, family regardless of proof and even with proof of innocence we don’t get it back.
Women are victims and men are the perpetrators.
That’s why I don’t respect “women” anymore. I’ll respect a woman but your genders itself a broken and undeserving as far as I’m concerned. Only a select few of you deserve respect and equality. They will get it from me but I hate what “women” have become.Is this still revelant?- Asker1 y
you just generalized 3.8 billion people when a couple have cheated on you, I don't know what that says about your judgement. Alimony, sexual assault, child support/custody, abuse are on women's side because in most cases, men ARE the perpetrators of this shit, not women. stop trying to play the victim card, you've always had the upper hand. the thing is, we don't want to be "put on a pedestal," we just want to be equals.
And YOU just generalized billions of men... guess your not special so thank you for proving my point that your genders not worthy of respect anymore.
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“Alimony, sexual assault, child support/custody, abuse are on women’s side because in MOST cases” here your hypocrisy right back at ya.
“Only a select few of you deserve respect and equality. They will get it from me...” I believe this is what I said. I hate your gender but recognize the individuals worthy... seems similar to what your saying.
Also again things are not equal. A man will not treat all women the same as a woman will treat all men when it’s men that have to take the real risk and put themselves out there.
Also I’m curious. What benefit does it for men to really get out there today? The law what it is, marriage failing like it is, women being what they are? Women used to be partners outside the real trash now women are a risk assessment. I never would have done the things you claim except maybe some of my views would be “misogynistic” but ladies would have been treated right, had a hard worker, a loving husband and father, a handyman, financially stable life, and been able to enjoy a good life. And even if after dating for a few week/months were not a fit respect would have been mutual. Now though women have gotten uppity and men have gotten exhausted by them.
I used to be a more agreeable person but then my ex came through and I realized that would no longer work. She was verbally abusive to me and my family and I had to put my foot down. Now I won’t I won’t allow women to behave like that anymore. The way your behaving. real women conduct themselves with grace and gratitude. Their respectful and courteous. And when it comes time to not be men are there to white knight and die on their sword for them but women arnt like this anymore so I don’t see the gender as salvageable anymore.
For those of you that conduct yourselves with such top tier traits you are a rare breed and deserve a good man who will take care of you but all others will if lucky get an average man that will hopefully respect you. You cannot expect to be treated like a lady when you act like a bitch.- Asker1 y
i'm saying that all of you men deserve respect and equality, but those of you who disrespect me and view me as lesser solely because i have a vagina will not get my mutual respect back. i'm really, really, sorry about your ex. I too have been verbally abused by people i have loved and i know the feeling, it's horrible. know that i understand your pain and feel it too. however, it did not change my view on the entire male community. as to the benefits men get today, here's a list of privilieges that you are so conveniently ignoring: you are more likely to get a job, you get payed more, the odds of you encountering sexual harassment are so low it is almost negligible, if you do the exact same thing as a woman you'll be seen as doing it better, you are not taught to fear walking alone in dark places, you do not get ridiculed on what you wear, if you choose not to have children your masculinity will not be questioned, if you care for your children you're seen as an "extraordinary parent," people in power represent you because they're mostly male, you're encouraged to be more active and outgoing than women are, you're wardrobe + grooming is relatively cheap, you aren't subject to as many beauty standards, you can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest since that kind of violence is called "crime" and is a general social concern, you will never have to remove your ancestor's name when you get married, you get to be the head of the household, everything in media gets to appeal to you sexually (scantily dressed women on your favorite magazines, media and television), you are not likely to be frightened and startled if a man suddenly comes up next to you on the street or road, and finally, you have the privilege of not understanding what women have to go through.
If I let one experience break men I wouldn’t be a man. I’m letting a combination of all of my experience help me understand that women are trash... they all do not deserve my respect. But a woman that is worthy and shows me will receive it... you comment about all men deserve respect is stupid... no ALL men do not deserve respect. A man might but men as a whole should not automatically get your respect. In a perfect world yes but respect will be given as it’s earned... you seem to think i mistreat women. That’s not true I just don’t give a damn until they show their worthy. General respect is something everyone gets but to be treated with the respect deserving of a lady you have to be a lady if you understand my explanation. I’m not particularly articulate so my meanings get lost to people all the time...
I want to touch on my privileges for a minute because it’s rare for women to so readily give me this information even when I ask.
So in stem fields women even before women’s rights were more likely to get the job but yes men will generally get the job. I can only assume because as women get older they want kids which means for several months out of every year they could take maternity leave which is costly. But no woman’s gonna take my factory job where I shovel rocks and throw blocks 72+ hours a week.
I’ve worked with women at several places and have never seen this pay gap you speak of. My pay was the same at apple as the women I spoke too. Actually a few made even more than I did cause they were fucking amazing and deserved it.
The odds of sexual harassments lower because men pursue. We’re expected to hunt, and push first. Women will VERY rarely ask an average man out it’s only if men are like really something. Also if it does happen we get laughed at. There was an episode of bachelor once where the men had to play strip poker to get a date... that’s sexual harassment. If the men said no but some said yes they would have been look at as thou no confidence.Ide like an example cause I’ve never seen a man be treated better for a similar or less effective job than a woman. In my experience you get rewarded for outcome not effort which might be what your talking about.
You think I’m not afraid to walk a dark street at night? I live in the boonies and I’m terrified of the dark lmao. I’m told I need to man up. If someone break in or there’s a sound outside or snake or spider it’s my job to deal with it. To be fair violence follow weakness. The lioness will hunt the weak gazelle. The murder will find the small women. That’s why men are protectors. You can’t fault men for this just the murderers and rapists. When you choose to be alone for 30 years you choose to brave that dark alley for 30 years. So you know 10 years ago ide go down fighting for a strange woman on the street. But why should I protect women that castigate me?
I got ridiculed just last week at work during a safety meeting by half the work force for wearing a v-neck undershirt. I don’t get dates if I dress comfortably. I feel self conscious when I do laundry day and I’m wearing my comfortable shorts. I used to respect a boss I had at apple from what he wore alone. Dude wore a tailored tux every day.- Asker1 y
first of all, that stem argument you made is really confusing. stem has been proven to be one of the most misogynistic fields of work for women because of the lack of women in the field. stem has always been a "male thing." and the pay gap is a very, very real thing. my mother who was a doctor saw 24 patients a day (that's 7 more patients than the average doctor in her field, meaning she had about 10 hours added to her 65 work schedule because of notes, labs, injections, and appointments) and got paid $5,000 less than her male colleague who saw 15 patients a day, and her employer hid this information from both her and her male colleague. they only realized the pay-gap when they having a conversation with each other. she had to work her ass off and prove that she was worthy of equal pay when put against her male college who was consistently slacking and never did his work. also, why would you ever justify sexual harassment in general? don't "hunt" (what a disgusting word) a woman who has told you she doesn't want it, now there are actual consequences for doing that and you're complaining. being average-looking gives you no reason to SEXUALLY ASSAULT a woman.
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second of all, men wayyyyyyy less of a chance of getting assaulted in dark alleyways than women do. i almost wish y'all would just cross-dress for a day to understand how a woman feels instead of whining about your "oppression." i don't want men to protect me, i just want to be safe. just like men don't need women to live, women don't need men. your statement about "being ridiculed for clothes" is literally the most inarticulate thing i've read today. yea, you're definitely going to get ridiculed for wearing a v-neck undershirt, those are ugly lmao. we don’t get dates if we dress comfortably either. we don't even get dates if we dress elegantly because than we're "prudish" and "trying too hard" and if we dress in a way that makes us feel confident and sexy we're "easy" and a "slut."
I have wanted a child since I was a child. I will not accept a wife that will not have MY child. I want to leave a piece of myself behind lacking all the regret I have. I wanna teach them to dance, show them how to play the piano, teach them to take pride in their appearance because it effects how people see you and the respect you receive in life, show them school isn’t about learn stuff you’ll use but applying yourself to grow, to respect everyone and see everyone for what they are. I have thought long and hard about the future I see for my kids and I think my kids are exactly what women want. Dependable, capable, respectful, motivated... but my kids will never be born because women don’t value me for what I am. Men are trash and will abandon you and your kids had become a thing for women to rally behind... but that says more about the women’s choice in men then men. The once’s with a good life arnt out there being vocal because their busy living a good life. A man sticking around a considered a rare thing so yes it gets raised higher than it is... a parent that’s a parent regardless of genders a good parent.
What is this people in power represent me bs? I’ve never felt less represented. Actually I get attracted and hated on because of the actions of these idiots in power. If they were lawyers representing me ide fire them.
Your afraid to go down the dark alley. Men have to be more active or nobody will walk the darkness. I don't know quite what you mean by this. I like outgoing women. Confidence is so god damn sexy.
Lol don’t have to tell me it’s men that have traditionally paid for your wardrobe/grooming. I love that meme men goes in with long hair 5$ later comes out short and styled woman goes in and comes out 80$ later with the exact same hair.
Again beauty standards are a big thing in dating and respect. How we carry ourselves will effect if we get the job, how well respected we are, do we get the girl. Standing up straight, dressing nice, shaving, brushing hairYep we have to wait for police to get involved and take it while being punched. Funny enough women are the same. Restraining order exist. Not fully understand this.
I’m not too sure why women have to change their name when getting married honestly but considering what men get in marriage I don't know what the issue is. One concession isn’t gonna kill you. Of course women won’t tell me what men get out of marriage either so I don't know.
The head of the household who works 90 hours a week then turns over his full check to his wife. Statistics show women are responsible for 80% of household spending which is why adds are directly targeting women. I also am expected to keep my household in line including kids. I’m expected to provide and protect my household. Someone has to be in charge and when chaos hits the logical man should be in charge over the emotional woman... my brothers wife was walking their dog last month and it found a rattlesnake... she freaked and had to call a neighbor to deal with it. This woman’s scary good with a gun and had her gun with her. Like common! Also as the leader you take all the responsibility of the group fails...
Sex sells what you want me to say? There’s a playgirl. Men look like Greek gods on soap operas and reality shows. Or do you think they pick out any Tom, dick, and Larry off the streets?
Why should you? Used to be a time when if a man started doing something bad men you’ll just to defend the woman... then I saw that video in New York where the man was trying to rape a girl on the subway and people were stopping to record and not helping... if you can’t defend yourself you shouldn’t be so quick to push the people defending you away.
Your right I don’t. I try but I can’t. And you have the same privilege. You think you understand men? Conversations like this are how we understand one another but body wants to have them just argue.Have you been treated bad in your life? Are you 1 of 3 women that have been raped? If so I bet the men in your house dad brother whatever wanted to protect you and deal out justice. To protect their household. You hit this point a lot you fear this and that all tied to men but have men actually hurt you? Also if men have would being part of the household be so bad for the protection?
Nothing comes free. Your privilege is simple. Men protect and provide. We’re expected too or we’re not men. We’re not worthy. You gotta offer something for this privilege. If you want real equality I’ll give it to you. I’ll distance myself because you could make fake claims, or you can hurt me and I can’t defend myself back without going to jail. I’ll let you handle all the working and I’ll stay home and be homemaker. Though if I do I’ll be laughed at as not being a man. Ill take all your mo he and but what I want putting your needs second.
Privilege comes at a cost. Your not happy with this cost.- Asker1 y
after this post, i am going to stop responding to you, because you won't even consider that women have it harder than you and at this point you're just whining about your life like an incorrigible 2-year-old. you can get yourself a woman that'll have your kids if you actually loved her, respected her, and made her feel safe, not by arguing with a girl on the internet about how women suck and your upset because you're to misogynistic to get a girl. also, men sticking around for their families is statistically shown as more common than "absent-fathers," backed up by a study done by the United States Census Bureau (in exact detail, 20.2% of dads are absent, while the other 79.8% stick around). and yes, you are represented in government, whether you like it or not. there are men in power who value men's rights, not women in power who value women's rights. please shut up. beauty standards are there for everyone and affect the same areas of life regardless of gender. the difference is the beauty standards at play for men and women. the male beauty standard is tall, broad shoulders, sharp jawline, muscular, and erect posture. however the female beauty standard is far more difficult to adhere to. you need to have an oval/heart shaped face, medium sized eyebrows, small nose, pointed nose, perfect cupid's bow, silky hair, high cheekbones, almond eyes, full hips, hourglass figure, 20 pounds underweight, big tits and ass, long legs, tiny waist, and tan skin. it's great that you like confident women, however we are told as children to "keep our voice down" so we're ladylike, that we can't be outgoing and loud because "that's not ladylike."
i'm done arguing with someone who tries to counter factual evidence with bullshit experiences from their own life. go outside, go talk to some of your friends, get a life. You might wanna look up the statistics again year by year for at least the last 10 and give me a link. Just to make sure I’ll find one for ya because stems majority women. Also for your mother situation it’s one case a I agree they happen but in my life all my jobs I’ve never heard of pay gaps and all my employers have been open as to what we make. Except big corporations. They love hiding that shit which is prob why I don’t see it. Again men will world longer hours, do more dangerous jobs, and won’t ask for maturity leave according to statistics. So their more employable then women.
When did I justify sexual harassment? I’ve always believed rapists and child molesters deserves a bullet... but prison give them their dues. Sexual harassment happens but generally it’s unwanted attention by an unattractive man of it we’re a hot guy with money and power many times women wouldn’t complain. These words from women themselves.
If my word choice offends you like everything else I’ll change it. Men have to peruse women or they will never mate. Period. We HAVE to do the work or it’s over for our species. Not even a slight doubt in my mind that if all men stopped perusing women for only 50 years population would drop by something like 70%.
I don’t get told they don’t want it. When I date due to my time at work and covid I date online. I don’t get a chance to show what I got. I get ignored. And when I go get a match and reply nothing. It’s not failure it’s not even being allow to attempt... also I’ve never given unwanted sexual attention to a woman before but you paint me with the same brush as everyone else.
Yep because men are expected to be strong. Also men are sexual beings... that’s just how it is learn to fight kill the dumb bastards and move on. You don’t want my protection so do it yourself. I don’t want to be killed by a murder but hey can’t stop them all right.
I saw a video the other day. This woman was venting on YouTube about it. She found a man she was absolutely into. Just plain smitten. Well long story short he takes her to his place and they do the deed. She wants to see him again but he says he’s not into women that sleep with men on first dates...
The point of this is men want to have as much sex as possible but what they want from women is different. They expect their wife material to not put out. PEOPLE want different things depending on what their looking for. Women date the bad boy because he’s got the confidence and attitude but then he leaves for the same reason and their upset.
Women CHOOSE to sexualize themselves for attention. Sexual attention from men or to feel better about themselves because the attention they get just looking sexy is no different. I’m very understanding on this dressing like a slut thing. I underatand women want to feel beautiful but where does this feeling come from? Why does a woman feel more beautiful when dressing sexy? Can you answer this?I’ve actually learned a lot from our conversation and wish you would have continued to discuss until we came to a more clear answer...
It seems to me you’ve already made up your mind that women are the victims and it can’t be any other way. It’s a shame because you stop growing when you stop trying to understand from different perspectives. Shutting down the conversation is childish but oh well thanks for the insight.- Asker1 y
i know i said the last response was the last time i'll respond to you, but i will answer your question. women feel more beautiful when they dress sexy because sexy clothes bring out all the parts you though you hated and makes you feel this wonderful rush of reassurance that your body, even though it's been ridiculed for being to fat or too skinny, too curvaceous or too flat, is beautiful. it flatters you, it's something that you can put on that clarifies the parts of your body that look good. when you look in the mirror while you're wearing sexy clothes as a woman, you realize that you are sexy. that's why women wear sexy clothes even when they're dating someone, or their single and not looking for anyone. it's a confidence booster. we don't do it for men though, contrary to what a lot of men think. i don't blame you for thinking that we do, i can see why you would think that, but ultimately we do it for ourselves, to love ourselves. it's why i fell in love with fashion as a kid and am currently studying it.
also the census was from the last ten years i can do research just like you. link: w ww. census. gov/library/stories/2019/11/the-two-extremes-of-fatherhood. html? utm_campaign=20191105msacos1ccstors&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery and no, stem has never been female dominated. science has been half men and half women, leaning majority women (women make up 54.8% of math and science related jobs). but the rest of stem, the technology, ad engineering, has always been male (19.8% and 26.7% women, respectively). that brings down the average for women in stem. link: w ww. catalyst. org/research/women-in-science-technology-engineering-and-mathematics-stem/#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20women%20accounted%20for, workers%20in%20STEM%2Dqualified%20industries.&text=Women%20made%2C%20on%20average%2C%2019, STEM%2Dqualified%20industries%20in%202019. - Asker1 y
also, thank you for arguing with me for this long lol. i actually really enjoyed talking to you about this stuff. i know i might come off as aggressive over the internet, but i truly do not feel any anger or judgement towards you. it was interesting to hear your perspective, even though we disagree, and i actually agree with some of your points. once again, thank you, and i hope you find a woman that treats you well :)
I already understood that confidence from wearing sexy cloths. But where does that confidence come from? Is it compliments you get? Is it because you show more assets? Is it perhaps because others recognize you in some way?
And also you need to understand there’s consequences for everything. You and I can’t go out naked cause we’re arrested. If you eat cake you get fat no matter how good the cake is or how much you like it. So dress confident and feel confident but also been seen as a slut. Confidence comes from more places than what you wear.
I used to get compliments with my long hair but since I cut it off no more compliments. I miss feeling like people actually have a damn ya know. But I couldn’t work my job with my hair so I cut it off.
As for your study’s. When I go to the doctor I see many women and a few men. Around here ide estimate 70:30. So I don't know countrywide but here in Texas and in person I’ve seen differences from your statistics. I also think it’s fine for one group to dominate a field. No woman’s gonna make it at my job without being a butch. And no stores gonna hire a man to sell makeup.
If your unhappy where your at maybe you should move to Texas we seem to be doing it right.We’re not arguing we’re discussing. You give a side I point a difference of perspective we agree or disagree and go from there. If more people were willing to do this is a respectable way society wouldn’t be trying to kill itself.
I do believe this whole generations gonna lose hard because neither side wants to accept opposing points of view.Hell yes deep conversation over such things hard to get going on here. Next time you can explain the benefit of marriage between men and women.
And don’t worry about it. Like I said I learn perspective from this and that’s worth a little bs. I’m working on my attitude myself as I can get very... passionate... about my feelings towards such topics.
- Because some men are misogynistic and most women flock to those men until they're in their 30s with kids and baggage and the guys that tried treating them right aren't interested anymore.Is this still revelant?
Maybe at a logical level. When I see women trending away from their weird, pick up artist vibe boyfriends before they have literally no other choice but to settle for a “nice guy” I’ll start to believe it, haha.
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I wouldn’t classify someone who is trying to get transactional sex as a nice guy, though I did use quotation marks, so I opened that door. Though, there are plenty of women who set up the “give me nice things and take me places and I’ll pretend to eventually want to have sex with you” relationship, that I can’t blame men for getting fed up with women. There are shit heads on both sides, for sure.
People just need to have a less superficial introductory phase where they actually learn about their partner on a deep level, rather than focusing on sex and infatuation solely. Then we would weed out these undesirables long before it became a major issue in our lives.
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014- Well, why are there still feminists in the most fundamentally free progressive countries in the world. Where women have no barrier in law to have all the jobs that men can have..
Why when men are rich, they are used and taken advantage of by some women. Why are there women who like the idea of surviving in life by using the emotional and sexual needs of men. Why your views are dependent on your physical shape. I can go on forever.
If you'd say we all have the bad seeds in the family I shake your hand. But in no way will we let this victimisation, and demonisation of men continue.ReactLike
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what's wrong with women having the same jobs as men? men also take advantage of rich women. men also like the idea of surviving in life by using the emotional and sexual needs of women, in fact its far more common and even romanticized by men and women, calling this kind of man a "player." Women's views are dependent on our physical shape because of MEN calling overweight people, people with acne, people with rectangular figures, people with tiny tits and ass, unattractive. not all men are horrible, but its men that refuse to acknowledge that there is something innately wrong with the normalization of misogyny that are.
You're looking at capitalism, you're looking at religions - Islam in particular - these are cultures, ways of life. That if you stand up against you will find a lot of women coming at you.
Not at men, I'd say the average man I know respects women and view them as equal and just different. I have never seen a man who internally hides the idea that women are lesser, genuinely. Unless affecting by stupid culture that belongs to the cave. So it's something from cave time, you need masculine features to hunt and make food. And women have no other way but to be objectifyed and viewed lesser. Or in other words like an incomplete attachment. So cultures arose from that. But today we have science we know we have the same brains [even though yours have less weight] but the same biological capabilities in a way that make both perfectly equal. And it takes time to progress and the only way to do that is if we stop blaming certain gender for the thing.- Asker1 y
first of all, i am not declaring that all men are disgustingly misogynistic, but as a woman i can safely say that i have met 3 men in my entire lifetime that have not even shown subtle signs of misogyny. second of all, are you muslim? you can't just declare an entire religion as misogynistic from the outside of that religion. also for your whole "men have bigger brains argument," it has been scientifically proven that men have 6.5 times more grey matter in their heads (matter that controls muscle movement) and women have 10 times more white matter (matter that controls the ability to learn, giving women an advantage in every other field besides than physical strength). that "5 ounces less" in women's brains when compared to men are only present because the brain is in proportional to the rest of the body, and men all throughout time have been bigger than women. while i agree that misogyny is a problem that we need to progress from, first we have to acknowledge the root of the problem; gender. you have good points, just weak evidence
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Look I don't know why I referred to the fact that men brains are heavier than women. But I think it's because I wanted to be as accurate and factual as possible, however weight of the brain does not govern anything with regards of ability, it is all about the wiring, so the fact I listed still doesn't give a superiority to any gender. However, you jumped up in response with scientific claims biased to favour gender or make it more superior. You just showed up to be sexist with bringing up such "facts" no matter how true or false they are. So you show some anti male attitude which probably gives you these illusions. And while I agree with what you said that some men feel they are more important, I think the opposite is also true. We see the world through the lenses of our identities that's why we have egos, and it's normal.
As for religion, yes I grew in Muslim community and I know how it views women, I dunno maybe I am mistaken but I grew in a community that feels down when blessed with newborn females and favour males. Religious laws give men more rights and hints that a woman is equal to half a man. In value and rights. And regardless of that I knew many men who resisted this divinely inspired notion. Which is something that should be praised.- Asker1 y
i didn't mean to be sexist, i was just trying to counter your arguments, sorry. it wasn't a jab at men's intelligence, because men are intelligent, i just get sick of hearing that argument from men online. i do agree with you on the religious thing though, i mistakenly thought you were trying to target Islam and jumped to defend it. sorry for any confusion i caused
- Anonymous1 yWhen women stop demanding to be respected and start actually earning respect, they will be viewed as equals.
When women stop asking for equal rights and privileges without equal responsibility, they will be viewed as equals.
When women stop playing the victim and start acknowledging the fact that they already have more rights and privileges than men, they will be viewed as equals.
When women stop blaming men for all their problems and start actually owning their shit, they will be viewed as equals.ReactLike
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what is this argument? that's like saying to someone who has cancer "oh you have cancer? just pretend it doesn't exist, you'll be fine." we demand to be respected, we demand our rights because we have not had respect or rights for centuries. how are we supposed to get respect and rights without asking for it? we do have equal responsibility, in fact more, because we have to work a job and take care of family. how exactly do women have more privileges than men? let's not forget the countless men that blame women for all their problems and still view themselves as greater than women
- Women are equally important but they are not equally the same. And by being honest about it, which often has me labeled a "sexist asshole", it actually attracts many girls and thus even if i didn't believe what i say id still be a "sexist asshole" because thats how you get girls.
And yes it does turn some girls off but tbh they are usually really low quality girls for relationships so i dont care.ReactLike
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What makes a man attractive to women is not what makes a woman attractive to man. While most girls dream of a tall successful confident man, men are dreaming of a short, sweet, slightly shy girl. Basically the opposite. So if a girl tries to copy men she becomes unattractive and an unattractive girl is not valued by men. Just as an unattractive man is not valued by women. And in society today we see lots of women trying to play mans role and thus men just look past those girls mostly uninterested.
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I really dont believe you and many of your friends like the opposite like you say. People like that are pretty rare. If its so common i dont think you would have asked this question because it wouldn't apply.
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i'm actually younger and people from the younger demographic tend to like different things than people who are 33. there's evidence that what they say is true because the girls they date are tomboys, not feminine, and tend to like masculine things. my question was that why do some men view women as less than men as human beings, not attraction wise.
Who is viewing women as less human? Often men treat women a certain way if they find them attractive and another way if they dont. I dont personally know a single man that hates women or anything like that.
Also, i think boys your age tend to date masculine girls and vice versa because thats whats available. Im 33 and i mostly date girls 18 to 24 and they seem to really appreciate a very masculine man and just say things like "i didn't know men could be like this" etc etc. So i really think they just hardly find men who are masculine so how would they know? Same with guys. My younger guy friends think masculinized women are normal but when i actually bring a highly feminine woman around they always are like "damn where did you find her?" And they ask me for dating advice. So i just think people especially at younger ages just dont meet many feminine girls and masculine men. Its not that they dont want them, they just dont know that they want them.- Asker1 y
nah not really. that's legitimately their personal preference. i'm in college and there are definitely feminine women there, but they tend to go for older guys because they either want money from them or they want maturity, not masculinity. for most younger women, men with feminine qualities are considered attractive nowadays (timothee chalamet, harry styles, literally any kpop boy). i'm a feminine girl who loves fashion and makeup, and feel attracted to men who also like fashion and makeup, so i date feminine straight guys (who exist by the way) to bond over it together. men my age feel it in their personal taste too, they love athletic tomboys because they can talk to them about the same stuff and do more with them. it's kind of different from older men who are in their 30s, they tend to want "feminine women" because that's what they've grown up with. most guys i've met in real life are actually really sweet and respectful, i was asking about the weird ones on the internet in this question who genuinely hate women.
Do you live someplace like california? Its not like that at all where i live. I am aware of girls who date guys that are feminine but only because id been sleeping with them and all they do is bitch about how their boyfriend is a pussy and thats why they sought out someone like me in the first place. Older men are inherently more masculine. As 20 year old guys get older many of them will become more manly. Im way more masculine than when i was 20. Although i was way more masculine at 20 than most of these guys today.
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do you live in like... Iowa. you seem pretty disconnected from the rest of the world. 20 year olds are generally seen as more attractive than a guy in their 30s, i hate to break it to you. i think those girls that you're "sleeping with" have given you a false sense of what girls my age like.
I do live in a place like iowa. We dont really have hardly even gays here let alone straight gays
- In all reality I treat people myself just as they present themselves towards me.
Reasons are just the same as any other gender based stereotypes. Some men have met women whom shifted there thoughts on the "WHOLE" community of women. If I notice anything I'd say we love the term "Leave the Past" when it is our past that shapes us to label others in defense.ReactLike
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- A number of reasons, issues with childhood female authority figures, rejection, belief that women are materialistic because they like to wear makeup, and arguably there is an instinct to resent people who we think are weaker than us, but have the gall to "make demands."React
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- Anonymous1 yWhat evidence do you have to support your claim that women are not viewed as equal human beings? There is certainly no legal evidence to support your claim. So why do you believe women are "viewed as lesser"? Please provide solid and credible evidence.
In my experience it is typically a woman's own inferiority complex that makes her feel that way, not real facts. And generally people who don't respect themselves are not respected by others. Just sayin'.ReactLike
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That is not a study. It is nothing more than a very old opinion piece written by a very biased feminist who plagiarized another opinion piece written by another very biased feminist more than two decades ago. It is purely fuel for your confirmation bias and not the solid and credible evidence I asked for. Care to try again?
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No, I'm going to deny most of what is on that list because most of it is bullshit. I asked you for credible evidence to support your claims. You have provided none because it doesn't exist, and that's because your claims are false. If they were true, would would easily be able to provide evidence to back it up, but you can't and there is a very good reason for that.
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- Anonymous1 yI think its probably decades upon decades of conditioning that women are lesser then men, which if you ask me is complete BS... women and men should be equal... sadly I feel its gonna be a few decades before that happens :/React
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- I don’t know women are great but sometimes I am harder on them and I admit that is my fault. I think cause bias against estrogenReact
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- Anonymous1 yoh shut the fuck up jesus christ fucking feminazi
or you could be some pathetic mgtow loser or incel loser or some tranny who the fuck knows since you're under a fake female anon accountReactLike
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- Why are some women so blatantly misandrist to men? Why are we not viewed as equal human beings to you?React
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- I know you can't mean me so Imma just sit here and eat my popcorn.React
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- Anonymous1 yYou are equal to men. But men are garbage, so I don't understand why you want to beReact
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Lol she liked your comment dude now that’s funny. If your equal to men... and men are garbage... 1+1=?
- Im good to women who deserve itReact
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