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No I don't think so but people are all about free choice which I find odd because if a mother uses cocaine or something then she can lose custody of her baby at least temporarily. I've seen a child with fetal alcohol syndrome and it was sad. The other worker told me that his mom was an alcoholic who stopped drinking when she found out she was pregnant but it was too late.Some babies might turn out ok but there is no way of knowing if there are any health problems that might crop up in the future because of it. Babies whose mother's smoke tend to have lower birth weight.Honestly sometimes people should not have choices
There aren't any lawas against "stupid", only the legality of the substances.
We all know that cigarettes and alcohol consumption for people is disastrous for health, which is much more so heightened when talking about specific people in a population such as a pregnant woman. Now, this can get a little bit complicated because how will the law against this be implemented and written? Assuming the woman is an adult, how will it be checked that she is certainly pregnant? How will the store clerk identify that exactly? Will this law be implemented similarly to the law that prohibits those under 21 from purchasing alcohol via a driver's license DOB check? One can see how complicated and not so simple this would become. It's already legal for women who are pregnant to smoke cigarettes and consume alcohol, as well as purchase these items. Perhaps the only thing one can do is hope that the majority of women and store clerks have some sense of morality and health which prevents them from making bad decisions in this arena. One can mess up a child for life by making bad decisions prenatally.
Yes, but the people in line should be allowed to beat her ass with wooden stir sticks, cuss her out, and demand she go to therapy to deal with her crap before she corrupts her offspring. Fair is fair right?Maybe I'll tone that back a bit to say, we should be allowed to have an appropriate conversation with her to help her to a better place... But I know how powerful these drugs are...
NO!Chances of it injuring the baby are astronomical!But in the age of the wholesale butchering of babies in the womb, it really shouldn't matter anyway, should it?I mean, let's just torture them for awhile before we cut them up and throw them in the trash, or sell their "living" body parts, does it really make a big difference?
It is a very bad decision on the part of the pregnant woman. But how would a law be enforced? Would overweight women with a large abdomen be forced to prove that they are not pregnant in order to purchase cigarettes or alcohol? That is a serious invasion of privacy.
Hard to say who's pregnant. You just can't assume a woman is pregnant, what if she's just fat or has bad IBS?
That's a slippery slope, my friend. Stupid people are allowed to vote, criminals can be appointed to Cabinet positions or remain there after they've committed crimes, you can lie to Congress and still be appointed to the SCOTUS. Pregnant women purchasing smokes and alcohol isn't high on my list of worries.
What if they're buying alcohol or tobacco for a relative, or what if they're buying champagne to save in order to celebrate after the child is born? It's not for the store clerk to decide. At a bar, however, the bartender should not serve alcohol to someone they know is pregnant... But that's a slippery slope, because it can be hard to tell if someone is pregnant or just looks pregnant, and refusing to serve someone because they 'look pregnant' can be an embarrassing situation all around...
That is an outstanding question. Legally, there is an argument to be made that she is knowingly and recklessly causing serious bodily injury to an individual. There are a few issues with implementing a law that would prevent this, however. Namely, 1) How would she prove whether or not she is pregnant when buying the product?2) Due to abortion laws, many states do not recognize the unborn as human beings.3) How would you know that she is buying the product for her own consumption?
The child won't instantly die if a pregnant woman does drink alcohol or smoke. Sure there's a huge risk the kid will have some major issues and the chance of having a miscarriage is much higher. But there's a lot of women who go through pregnancy without even knowing and suddenly birth a healthy baby out of nowhere
Can you tell the difference between "Visibly pregnant" and "Obese"? A lot of women are fat in the USA. Might mistake them for being pregnant. Or vise versa.
Arguabley its their choice if the continue to smoke while pregnant, if they want the baby that has a birth defect then go head and smoke that pregnant belly out
Yes, of course. They could be picking them up for their SO. Why should some gum snapping convenience store clerk named Sierra be able to tell them they can't purchase?
What if their name was like Jasmine instead of Sierra
Why not. Let em do it. Let the weak babies die. The strong ones will live. Natural selection as mentioned. Cruel process as it may be. Just a less effective abortion process.
I think for the sake of abused, unborn babies everywhere we should make cigarettes illegal... I have no opinion on the achohol, I just truly despise cigarettes...They "could" be buying them for other people...
Yess considering they can be buying them for someone else. I use to buy alcohol when I was pregnant but it was for my husband
one... they could be buying them for someone else and two... can you imagine how that would be policed and how many women that are just fat would be insulted
Yes they should. And yes it is potentially a great tragedy to the baby if they consume such products while pregnant.You can't in the short term tell people much of anything. All you can do is in the long term, guide, nudge, hint, help as best you can. The woman in this situation likely needed someone 10 or 20 years ago to help change her path.
Sure why not. Its their freedom and their choice. Why do you want to take away someones freedom and rights.
Her body her choice, isn't that what feminist want? Even tho she is clearly damaging the baby, but in the eyes of feminists the baby isn't human until it breathes air. So you can't have it both ways.
How do you know she's pregnant. Some women carry weight in other ways and you may think they're pregnant when in reality they just carry more weight in that area. That would be so offensive to any women. I think you should just mind your own business
Why not?Stupidity is not a crime.That is one of the reasons why people geting dummer.We need more people at low level jobs then high level..Natural selection...
How are u gonna accurately judge between a gal with a belly and a gal that is pregnant? Should she carry her ultrasound pics with her?
Probably not, as it definitely harms the baby. However, it would be a very difficult thing to enforce, as a lot of women look pregnant, but aren't.
You understand that a woman can break all the rules and still give birth to a perfectly healthy child, right?
You do realize that the risk of something being wrong with the baby is highly possible the rate would increase for deformities and health issues while the rate of a healthy baby being born is rapidly decreasing. Right?
@LonewolfMeme The bottom line is when does a person have rights.The position is that you dont get rights until you are born and that the rights of the unborn dont override the rights of the already born.You entire argument is also dependent on the idea that the disabled are second class citizens.How is your high ground looking now?Still happy?
You know a new born can't consent to anything, it's helpless and so anything the parents do to it could potentially ruin it's chances of surviving, on the other had with the rights thing my mom was born before me but I'm alive now so my mom has no rights to tell me what to do. While you can't tell the mother what to do you can't get 2 cents from the unborn child so that's not fair nor right.
@LonewolfMeme Its not fair that a woman can choose to abort and a man can't either. I dont know where you get the idea from that everything can be perfectly fair from.Its not an ideal world and there aren't always ideal solutions where everyone gets what they want.
Is it her body or not? That's the real question. It would be pretty messed up if a woman could legally abort her child yet not smoke during pregnancy.
No pregnant person should be allowed to purchase cigarettes or alcohol visibly or otherwise.
No, because she probably needs to get drunk to go to the abortion clinic.
It's up to the woman but i guess you could like at the safety of the baby.
No I don't think they should it's very irresponsible towards the babys health as a soon to be parent you should be responsible
Not a wise idea. Legal or illegal, women should have the maturity and selflessness to avoid smoking and drinking alcohol during her pregnancy.
Purchase, why not. We have a liqueur cabinet at our house, and my daughter in law who is visibly pregnant should be able to buy a bottle for the house not for her personal consumption but for the rest of us, ir even a gift.
no. i also think it should be legal to openly slap a cigarrette or alcohol out of a obviously pregnant womans hands...
What if she's fat not pregnant,? Maybe legal to slap a burger out of her hand then?
@Blitzkrieg_88 sure. Why not xD won't harm her.
No they should not be able to purchase these.. The laws should be stricter because it does harm the baby!
Do what you want. Not my place to judge. But you will know the consequences
Yes. I think it is a stupid thing, but giving the government even more power is worse.
They shouldn't want to buy the stuff , not good for baby or the mother ….
Yep. We live in a free society. This isn't Russia or China, by the way. (At least where I live) 😂
No, they should not. It's not only her body, so it shouldn't be her choice.
Oh great, an idiot who thinks that the government should control how women live their lives
I don't think they should be able to. If they do it's just proving they would be horrible parents
Absolutely, as long as I can then smack them unconscious and take them to a forced abbortion. Stupid bitches, just kill yourselves.
I would like to say yes, but that's an infringement on civil and economic liberties while also ignoring human nature; so no.
I'm no why if u willing to get pregnant then you gotta take care of it
How would you know if they are or not? Have an ultrasound machine at the ready?
Of course not. It would be a risk not only for the baby, but for her as well
Should they? No. Can we stop them from being stupid and finding a way? Unlikely
No, that can cause birth defects and health problems for both the person pregnant and the child. But there is no law against it so unfortunately they can buy cigarettes
Thats just cruel to make your baby disabled then to have an abortion
I think anyone should be able to do whatever the fuck they want. like really man? That’s some fucking Orwellian shit.
Id say no. She may be stupid but she has no right to physically and mentally harm her unborn child because she is stupid.
No, but there's no way to tell if a 'visibly pregnant' woman is actually pregnant. She literally could just be overweight.
Ohh a tough one! Its like a clash of civil liberties and child welfare
No that's obviously a pretty dangerous thing to do
Yes. How do you know it isn't for them?
No. Law or not i wouldn't sell it to her.
No. It's very harmful
It is their choice so yes they should.
No, it should be illegal
Oh great, an idiot who thinks killing and harming babies before they're born is a great thing to do
Maybe move to Saudi Arabia or Uganda, they love controlling womenWhile I will still be living in the civilized western world
I'm perfectly fine living where I am right now
Sure you are where women are making their own choices with their bodies lol
I haven't told you what country I live in :3Like I said before it should be illegal as it's poisoning another human being, if the child was outside the womb it'd be considered child abuse so it seems pretty obvious it should be the same the other way
The fact that you think it's okay to poison children just shows how much of a sicko you are
They should be jailed for it.
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