How to get round it? I don't think you can, but coming back from abroad, they should self isolate for at least two weeks, then get tested.
Maybe you could take two weeks holiday?
I see your point. The government isn't trustworthy. I won't be allowed to take holiday as I have next week off, the only thing I could do is call in sick
You could indeed, but make sure you stay out of sight!
It has nothing to do with the movement of people. Of course less people travel around it can be controlled easier but the moving itself does nothing to spread the virus. It is nothing but people's ignorance and carelessness who is spreading the virus. I can go anyhwere i want, as long as i be obsessively clean, i won't get it, simple. If people be more thoughtful and careful on their daily hygiene processes, it won't spread like crazg.
@UnknownReflection You cannot rely on that. It IS spreading! How do you think China has reduced its rate of infections? If I stay at home, I am reasonably safe. If I mix in a huge crowd at some event or other, I am at greater risk.
@UnknownReflection How the fuck do you think it spread in the first place? It didn't catch a bus!
I agree. Of course it is safer to avoid unnecessary travels, avoiding large crowds, etc.. but to name (movement) as the cause of the outbreak is (to me) ridiculous and i won't ever accept this. Because there is no logic behind it period. As the (cause) of the outbreak, since thd virus does not live in the air nor transfers through the skin, it is only and only and only people's lack of accuracy, lack of attention and pure ignorance who has created this mess. If people be obsessively clean the virus will eventually die out. As of how it started, LOL it did started because of movement, it started because of lack of knowlege as people did not know they would need extra hygienic protocols, they behaved casually and normally and kept spreading as people kept touching studd around and shoved their hands in their orifices. But now, people have all the knowledge they need to stop it, what's the triggering factor of the continuous outbreak? Its called Irresponsibility.
@UnknownReflection Don't forget it is spread by ingesting airbourne droplets from an infected person. No amount of cleaning will prevent that. All cleaning does is to help prevent the virus, that might exist on surfaces, being transferred via hands to someones face.
You are right. I dont disagree with the core of your statements. I do agree that avoiding movement is key to controlling it. I just dont think its fair to call movement as the cause of the outbreak. Furthermore, also, what are chances that there be droplets out of the blue? It is risky to not care, but i would say normally this would not happen so often and if someone is sneezinh or coughing often, we should ultimately avoid them cause if someone is throwing droplets around it is a major sign of the symptoms.
@UnknownReflection My argument is someone came into the UK and started this whole thing off. That is movement!
It is movement, sure, the same thing happened to Finland. But in my perspective the movement is on the surface as the cause. The move itself does not sprays the virus, it is the irresponsibility, improprer and inappropriate behaviors of the mover who spreads the virus. That is my point. They go hand in hand. I can move and still be safe, the behvaior is far more important the move itself for me.
I agree with you - I live in the UK and I am trying to stay positive about coronavirus. Firstly, I don't think China did enough to stop it spreading elsewhere, and to be honest, I don't think they really cared enough.I think the UK should go on lockdown now really - I know it is extreme, but numbers are going up everyday. Why wait until we have 10,000 cases in Italy? They are having a major crisis right now in terms of hospital space and death rates. I don't know why were are sitting around waiting for our situation to get as bad when we know the cases are rising everyday. Surely, if we went on lockdown now it would be for a shorter time anyhow - we wait for all near 500 cases to have an outcome (hopefully full recovery) and then once that passes, the virus is no longer here. I think flights into and out of certain countries should be banned as well. The UK has major problems closing its borders but the virus got here for that very reason so it needs to stop.
@Sbgirl Well said! Couldn't agree more!
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