That's very rare though.Blindness takes your normal life away. Even if you are raped, and suffer hard mental problems, you can recover and at least live your everyday life. I'd much rather have depression and mental illness
while that sort of thing maybe rare in some ways, emotional trauma as kids or even adults who have been through a hell of a lot can be easily effected by it, and other such mental scarring which can effect them in ways that will take their legs, even full mobility have been known to go... and trauma, ptsd, abuse, depression, i'm not on about the type where someone feels down cos their day didn't go right but i'm on about the type of depression which destroys lives, I've experienced it myself, though not the blindness but have been immobilised cos of depression... sure blindness you can adapt given the right kind of support, and stress can be managed, depression doesn't go away, it can be treated but it is never truly controlled... and anyone who has endured it knows that finding ways to cope is a constant up hill climb, and not everyone has the strength to fight through it... and the meds designed to help not all of them help... councelling and therapy doesn't always help, and in many cases the issues go untreated and/or resurface after triggers in everyday life have the risk of causing a relapse
Adapting to being blind is not the same as living your life with sight.It's a very depressing and limited life in darkness. You can't compare that. If you are depressed you can live your everyday life to the fullest. You can do everything you want just like any other person, you are not constrained like a blind person. That's a huge difference to me.
I know it's not I have grew up around people i call friend who have disabilities which vary from one to another, blindness, deaf, blind and deaf, full body and half body wheelchair bound, epilepsy, MS, MD, and a variety of other disabilities and illnesses... I have also known other people who suffer depression even worse than mine and their life practically stops, and until a few months ago mind pretty much had too there are days where i am restricted within my home even before lockdown, so i can tell you life DOES NOT carry on as normal and yes depression, anxiety, ptsd, are quite restrictive... I ask you have you ever had depression or anxiety?
Yes, and I am fine.I can argue you are still less constrained than someone who's blind. You can work for example.
also if anything mental illnesses have got such a stigma attached to them, that people who have not experienced them, of any sort of the dehabilitating ones tend to assume just as you have done, that they can be fixed up and people live a normal life... when it clearly isn't the case... but the stigma of mental health you can trace back to those who claim they were depressed or acted on something for example... their day didn't go how they wanted to so claimed they were depressed, when all they were was just upset... depression is nothing like that... it as i've said destroys lives, and sure some people can get it treated but the one's who have it worse never fully recover... it returns, those triggers in everyday life... could be trivial to someone else but could push someone over a bridge or in front of a bus, an overdose or be just that tiny push that ends the life of either themselves or someone they care about
You see, you just confirmed people with depression can get better and have hope.Say to a blind person...While there are bad things, there are worse things. I don't think even murder is worse than being blind.
I was able to until 3 years ago when my physical health and mental health got worse... I have friends who are blind and they are more capable than someone who can see so i can say that just being able to see doesn't always make you able to do more... sure i can see, but when the depression hits worst, i cannot move, function... and this has caused along with my physical health to become the reasoning why no employer will employ me and i've tried councelling, therapy, medication, everything to train my mind to adapt, as have some of those who i have known over the years some of whom aren't alive now cos of... this illness that people claim is recoverable from... a friend of mine who was a soldier, suffered PSTD and depression from wars he fought in... things he did for those who sent him aorund the world... most of his life he was unable to even know, cos if he remembered what happened it would have destroyed him or people around him, so his mind sealed it away, psychologists triggered that while trying to help him... so no matter what they tried to do was not good for him... but they kept pushing, and then he broke... and started becoming aggressive reliving the moments his mind had locked away
that wasn't confirming it was better, you clearly missed the point of those i know who are blind being able to achieve more than people who can see...
and yeah while depression in 'SOME' cases i meant to add, can be treated... it cannot be treated 100%
I guess I just can't imagine living a life blind.For me it would be the worst.
I'd still have more hope and chance to recover to the point I enjoy life even if not fullyI can't do that with being blind
for some it is a worst case scenario, but when or if you get a chance... look up a guy called Anthony Giles on facebook... an old friend of mine, he's deaf and blind, travels the world, even has his own autobiography he's done about his life and travels, and that guy has been blind most if not all of his life.. the crazy thing is his senses are more in tune than most people who have both hearing and sight on a good level... another guy i knew many years ago was blind, and i was in the same school as him way back when, he navigated his way around the school using his white cane and his hearing... he was arrested, put in front a judge, who could not believe what he had heard, he had stolen £15000 worth of computers from the IT department and carried one by one to a guy parked in an obscure part of the school who fenced them on... £15K of computers, monitors, desktop towers, keyboards, mice, printers... and how he got away with it was many people there had varying illnesses, who would suspect the blind 16 year old lad who went there cos of his illness from aged 4, who became able to know the layout, and who would believe anyone who said he did it... unluckily for him he was caught on CCTV otherwise the judge wouldn't have believed his eyes... his prints were all over the stolen machines, witnesses came forward... and even then the judge had a hard time
Those are in the minorityIts like saying everyone who starts a business will become Bill Gates.
It's hardly uplifting lol
you might not but i can tell you out of all the people i've known even those who were blind actually enjoyed their life... one of my friends who is blind even told me they are lucky... cos the see the world in a unique way, they can enjoy it without seeing the bad things and they dont need to look at the crap that many of us who can see have to... another friend of mine knew he was dying from the time he hit age 4, he had MS, he knew his mind would carry on but his body was just shutting down... despite this he did his GCSE's, 2 weeks before he died, he didn't have to do them, as he knew he wouldn't see past his 16th birthday... he did them anyway... his mother recieved his results 1-2 weeks after his funeral... he had gotten A+ B+ A on each of his results i asked him how he could remain happy despite what he knows, and he said you get used to it, you accept what has happened and you simply keep going... when i said to him about the depression he said that that was the difference he knows what is eating away at him and can deal with it, pretty much the same what my blind friends said, they know what has happened and they accepted it, and they can work with what they got to adapt, depression never lets you do that depending on the severity and cause
Well good for them but I honestly think they are just saying that to feel better. They have no other choice.I think most people would choose mental problems than be blind.
considering most of the school i went to intermingled with other schools of similar type... and those who i did see were more capable than most fully seeing students... the only ones who struggled for a time were those who were recently patially sighted and recently blinded... but those who had the support were able to do what they could and even found it didn't stop them from achieving what they want to do, another friend of mine... registered blind... owns own business... but your analogy of what i was getting at isn't correct, and they aren't the minority... instead they and many like them had shown more than what many can possibly understand... when you hear of disabilities... you fear the worst... that person can't see, that person can't hear, that person can't walk... that person has seizures which cripple them, have you seen them and sat down to talk with them, sure you can imagine how it would effect you if you had their illnesses... and yes it would feel overwhelming... but many of those who have these problems have had them from birth or had time to adjust.. blindness for example... can't see, so you get support to help deal with being unable to see, you learn, you adapt... that support allows you to have a more normal life than you would first imagine any life could be... wheelchair bound, can't walk or can only walk short few steps... they get support, taught to adapt... they are able to live a more normal life as best as they can... many disabilities are like this, depression however is one illness that sure in some cases you may learn to adapt, and for a brief moment you can learn to get on with things, but each relapse becomes worse... each trigger becomes harder to avoid, you are instantly thrown off guard and your ability to adapt is damaged each time it hits, medication can only work so much (that's assuming it works at all) therapy, similar situation as meds...
when you can read people as i have over the years you learn to know when someone is "just saying" something and they weren't... they've had lifetimes to adapt and the issues with mental illness is that there are far too many different mental illnesses... many differnt forms, and feeling like you just want to die every second of the day is no great alternative... feeling like when that trigger that you thought was under control suddenly hits you and you are left immobile in the middle of a busy street, or in the middle of a crowded shop which you cannot breath, you can't move, all the sounds around you suddenly become muffled, your vision blurred to the point of being unable to focus, your body is no longer under your control... yeah... if it was just being blind... and learning to cope with just that... i'd happily choose blindness over feeling that way
If you go blind as an adult, there is no way you can recover your previous life.You can get how much support you want, but not being able to see would put me in a state of misery every single day, every single moment. That's at least how I feel. You can be raped and do just fine after a while, even if you have depression and ptsd. You can get out of that. Now, there are people who can't and even kill themselves as a result, but those are in the minority, like 10% at most. They are just not comparable to me at all.
Imagine being in the state when a depressed person gets triggered.That's being blind 24/7
and yet they have more control over their own body... they have the ability to function, I know this as like i've said i know personally a fair few who are blind... and they have stated that what they have learned and how to cope and adapt over the years it doesn't restrict them as much... you see only what you think you'd feel without actually knowing first hand, sure it will be difficult for someone blinded in adulthood, but again they would have support and help to adapt and the rest of their senses actually improve to make up for the one lost... a person who is disabled through depression doesn't get that support cos not everything can help if at all anything... as for rape and ptsd... do you know this first hand, cos i do, a friend of mine was raped and she cannot even go out the house, my old friend who served in the military and another who got PTSD cos she was raped by her husband, she still has flashbacks and days where she cannot function at all... i get crippling days due to what happened in my past and sure some days i can get up and move about, but there are a good many days where I and many who experience the damage and torture of what it can do, who cannot even move due to the damage caused.. a physical issue, can be worked around, adapted to... a mental issue can leave you physically and mentally destroyed... try saying that to a rape victim that they are gonna do fine after a while, there are far more cases whereby rape victims have that mental damage for the rest of their lives, they dont adapt, not fully if at all any... PTSD, depending on what was the cause of such can mean the difference between collapsing through the similarities of what caused the PTSD and simply crying for no apparent reason other than a flicker of light or a click of sound or a loud noise...
you can only imagine what it can be like for one, just cos you say your depression you've overcome... i can tell you now with severe depression it never goes, it doesn't leave you.. your ability to adapt is temporary... not permanent... you dont suddenly treat it and you are all ok... or even treat over time and all is hunky dory... doesn't work like that... mental illness doesn't leave someone in a better state than anyone who is blind, or without legs or without hearing... Blindness you as i said many times now you can get support and sure adult blindness is difficult i admit that, and for a time it can be hard going.. but you get support to help you through it, you get the tools to help, teaching how to use said tools, you can adapt far quicker and more effectively due to these helpful things... and helpful people who can assist in getting you back on your feet... you cannot always do that with someone of mental illness... and take ADHD, Aspergers etc there are varying levels of severity, some can function just fine... others can't even cope with specific trigger sounds or images... are they better than a blind person, who only has to contend with the loss of one sense?
That's just your opinion.Lady gaga has PTSD and she lives a fulfilling life.
not just my opinion at all, lady gaga has had the money to afford all the help she can get, and she's lucky... but since you are dropping names of celebrities... stevie wonder... he's lived a fairly good life too... he learned to adapt, and work around his blindness
Charlie Cox who plays Daredevil is actually registered blind, his eyesight is so bad he cannot see beyond his nose... he's adapted, he learned... and fit the role of the blind superhero perfectly
It just seems Stevie has a much harder life, he can't even move on his own.Lady gaga sure lives a fulfilling life. No sign she is even handicapped
Tilly Aston = founder of the victorian association of braille writersLouis Braile = invented BrailleFrancis Joseph Campbell = anti-slavery campaigner and co founder of the Royal National college for the blind.Haben Girma = Disability rights advocate, first deaf/blind graduate of Harvard Law SchoolKeneth Jernigan = long time leader of the National Federation of the Blind.Helen Keller = American Deaf/Blind writer, lecturer and activist.Tiffany Brar = Social Activist, who founded the Jyothirgamaya Foundation which empowers the blind of all walks of life.Juan Carlos Gonzalez Leiva = Cuban lawyer who founded the fraternity of teh independent blind of cuber and cuban foundation of human rights.Sabriye Tenberken = Braille without borders co founder.Miles Hilton-Barber = British traveler and climber James Holman = British man known as the blind travelerTofiri Kibuuka = Ugandan-Norwegian athlete one of the first 3 to reach the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro Erik Weihenmayer = first blind person to reach the summit of Mount Everest.there are so many names on the list i could go on
Lady Gaga's problems may only be minor her situation has been helped by here amount of wealth and access to specialist treatment which she could have been one of the lucky ones.. Stevie Wonder is only struggling these days due to age, like anyone else other senses start fading with age
I doubt Stevie lived a normal fulfilling life. There was no mention of him in the media or news for a reason
I recall him being in the media but he wasn't interested in the extra attention, he just wanted to make music, not being in the limelight all the time as he enjoyed his privacy many of the celebs out there want to be at the forefront of the attention but just cos he wasn't always in the limelight doesn't mean he never had a normal life, if anything him doing his music and being out of the views of the camera's and reporters says to me that was his choice
and nothing to do with his blindness
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Still they should be encouraged and we should try to convince them that they can deal with it themselves and it is not that bad. But is that really the truth despite of necessity of this perspective being practiced? That I began to wonder in later times.
I think it is not that simple. Though I thought it in the past, exactly like you. But among other my brother's life kind of taught me that I might be wrong.
I disagree actually, it's not as simple, it destroys some people
You always disagree with me lmao such a poser
How am I poser when I express my view?You are just a close minded bigot in that case because you only care about what you think.
You wrote agree and then you disagreed 😭
Yeah, because I actually thought about it more.It doesn't mean I pretended to be something I am not