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Whether the vaccine really protects us from the virus or only reduces our chances of getting infected with the virus?
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- Theoretically yes, but it should be only mild cases. Vaccination doesn't create barrier around you (not preventing infection), it helps your body to recognise the virus much faster before it can cause any serious harm.
All infections are race with time, you body vs the pahogen.
a) In a naive body (unvaccinated), the virus has a time advantage since the imunity doesn't recognise it and thus it has plenty of time to multiply and overhelm your body ("bad covid" cases)
b) sometimes you can get lucky and the virus can be caught by non-specific immunity before it manages to multiply enough to cause any visible harm ("mild covid" cases)
and finally c) Vaccinated body nullifies the time advantage the virus would have in the naive body (a) because the immunity recognises the virus quite fast and eliminates the virus much faster. However, if you come in contact with rather high dosage of the virus (hospital environment) you could still theoretically get overhelmed by the virus as imunity would not have enough "good cells" to take care of the virus and you could get mild covid for few days untill the immunity creates enough good cells.0|00|0Is this still revelant? - Being infected: No, maybe when there is a new mutation, but so far the vaccination should make you immune.
But you could still spread it. Thats why the high risks people get it before the fast spreading people.
If scientists would be sure the vaccine would stop spreading as well, the best solution would be to priotize those who come into contact with most people.0|00|0Is this still revelant?
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- I hope you realize that the vaccine contains the virus lol that’s how they work. So yes you’ll be infected.1|00|0Is this still revelant?
Very old vaccines used to use "inactivated" copies of a virus, or similar but less dangerous viruses (cowpox, for smallpox), but the modern ones just contain some molecules that mimic parts of the virus to train your immune system.
True that. Do you remember how one of the vaccines must be kept frozen? That is because it contains small parts of viral RNA (genetic intermediate that serves as a guideline for body to create proteins), which is rather unstable at room temperature and is automatically destroyed by enzymes (after few hours). So with that vaccine, your body's immunity "teacher" cells start producing one of viral proteins for a short period of time (normally these cells would present pieces of germs eaten by your immunity), which trains a whole generation of immunity cells specialised against virus that causes covid-19.
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Yeah, that should be it, Antigen presenting cells and T cells (tho I am only a microbiologist-bacteria, not immunologist).
And those of Oxford should contain fragments of (more stable) DNA.
*Had to look into it since facebook in my country is full of antivaxers fearing "frozen stuff".
- Yes. I've heard of cases where someone took the vaccine and became infected with COVID-19.0|10|0Is this still revelant?
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122- Like a lot of things this is the unknown & if the virus mutates in which it is I wonder if you are still protected as well. As for being vaccinated your going to love this one & did you know you have to take two shots? After taking the first one you have to take the second shot within 21 days & why there is a second shot, who knows.0|00|0
Anonymous23 dOf course! The vaccine doesn't stop you from being infected. But the vaccine at it's root is a dead versian of the corona virus. When it's unjected into your body your body identifies it and creates antibodies to fight it. That why people get "Mild" reactions i. e. low grade fever. It's your bodies response to something the shouldn't be there.
So now that your body has antibodies, not to mention memory of the virus so it's prepared when you actually become infected. Your body is already ready for the fight. Without the vaccine it has ro do this wirh a live virus. And the virus can kill you before your body can mount a defense. Get it?0|20|0- It's not reducing "infection", it is to reduce "impact" of the infection.
Vaccine is a form of weakened virus so that the body can make weapons for that type of virus if it were comes into contact again. But covid-19 vaccine is different I think since it uses m-RNA or something. It's different if I remembered correctly, please fact check this yourself.
But the point still stands that vaccine doesn't prevent infection, only the impact of the infection.0|00|0 - It's the same as any other vaccine. It's not going to protect you from a different strain (mutated version) but should lessen the severity. Hopefully if you have some immunity it means you'll be less likely to spread it which is the main issue (not including the elderly and those with serious medical conditions).0|00|0
- It reduces your chances of catching it.
The 90% efficacy rate means that they gave half a large group of volunteers the vaccine, the rest a placebo, and found, after a certain time, the vaccinated only had 10 cases for every 100 cases in the placebo group. (A 50% efficacy rate would be 50 cases for every 100. A useless vaccine would have a 0% efficacy.)0|10|0 - If you got the covid 19 vaccine then it's no guarantee that it will be effective on the new mutation, same thing happens with the flu that's why you need to usually get vaccination for one around each year0|00|0
- The answer is yes, vaccination is only temporary and does not guarantee that you don't get sick when it's active it should only reduce the risk of you getting serious ill if you do. Assuming it's a good vaccine.0|10|0
- The rushed vaccines have no impact on the new mutated strain that is 7 times more contagious than the strain we are fighting now.0|00|0
Yeah, yeah it kinda does. Do you even know how vaccines are created? The vaccine is a weaker version of the virus or bacteria that gets introduced into the ghost body so they they can create antibodies. The new mutated strain has changed the genetic structure. That is why when people get the flu shot and still catch the flu. The excuse is that you were vaccinated for strain A and you caught strain B. The last time I got vaccinated for the flu the CDC said is was only 35% effective. I have gotten sick in the last 7 or 8 years. Not even do much as the sniffles. I only get vaccinated so I don't have to listen to my doctor go on every visit as to why I should get vaccinated. I just get it so I can get through the visit without the lecture.
Yes, I do know, I've been watching a YouTube channel by a retired teaching nurse called Dr John Campbell, he seems to know his stuff. I've been having the flu jab for the last 5 years except I missed out on it last year. I went to concert mid November last year and stood in a crowd of people waiting to get in to the venue. The following week I was due to fly out to Spain for a holiday and the day before I woke up to a cough and felt feverish. On the next morning I felt fine and flew out to southern Spain but by the time I got to the hotel the fever returned and I was having trouble breathing and a pain had developed down my right ribcage. I spent the next 3 days in the hotel room not eating, just drinking water. Just the act of walking from the bed to the bathroom left me breathless. By the third day I was able to go outside and walk but still slightly breathless. I have never felt that ill in my life before, it was quite scary so if this virus feels anything like what I had I will gladly take the vaccine.
- Yes. What the vaccines do is drastically reduce the risk of developing severe COVID-19 disease and long term damages. They might also reduce the risk of being infected and infectuous, but I think we don't know much about that yet.0|20|0
Also, you don't get "infected with COVID-19". COVID-19 is the disease you may or may not develop after being infected with the virus SARS-CoV-2. This is basic knowledge everyone should know by now.
- yup. not immediately after. but like flu vaccine, you'll be good for half a year or a year. then you need a new one. however, you're 20. you don't need one either way.0|00|0
@Dayman343 yup. just like they die to the regular flu. that's old news. but the likelyhood is way too low to make a vaccination worth while. specially in case of a highly experimental, hastily botched one.
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@Dayman343 yeah it reduces your chances to have a positive test result by 90% that is from 0,4% to 0,04% xD the risk is already super low, if you're not 70. how many flu shots have you taken in your past if i may ask? flu has quite litterally the same chance of killing you.
i bet you wear your bicycle helmet and a condom when you go to bed alone xD just to be extra safe.
@Dayman343 but i must say i confused you with the original asker of the question, i thought you're like 20. it says on your profile, you're 64, at which age, taking those vaccines becomes a bit more reasonable :D
- I heard that you can still get COVID, but the symptoms aren’t near as bad.0|00|0
- Anonymous21 dYes, but it helps you combat the virus. So if you don’t take it, your chances of dying are higher than if you took it. The vaccine doesn’t make you immune, so don’t go frolicking around with no mask. It helps you immune system fight it better.0|00|0
- Only one person in ten or less would become positive after vaccination. If you did after vaccination its supposed to be less severe. So by all means get one. I can't wait once I do I will be back to doing what I want0|20|0
- It is 95% effective in ensuring we don't get it. We know if we're in the 95% if we would have gotten infected if we didn't get the vaccine, which is impossible to know for sure. So it increases the chance you won't get COVID-19 greatly0|10|0
- obviously, that purpose of that vaccine is not to prevent you from getting the covid190|00|0
- It reduces the chances but it reduces them by a lot. The vaccine also wears off.0|00|0
- Yep, even if you get vaccinated, you can still catch it, and you still need to wear a mask0|00|0
- Covid 19 don't exist...5 g is what killing and will kill people... th vaccine is where th sickness will be in...0|00|1
- It's a Scam
#scamdemic 0|10|2 - Yup. Just like the flu shot you get annually.0|00|0
- Anonymous22 dYes, that is what I heard0|00|0
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