If Life & death are predestined then why are we trying to become successful or trying to be fit & healthy?

[CubsterShura]

In my religion when we are born and when we die is absolutely set on stone, it is decided how much time we will have being alive on this planet and no amount of green juice or kale salad will increase it and even the most fatal accidents won't decrease it.

Where we have the freedom though, is in deciding HOW we live and die.

Let's hypothetically suppose that I have 80 years lifespan. I could maintain an active, healthy lifestyle so even in the last remaining years of my life I would be able to walk, talk, do other physical activities, spend quality time with my children and grandchildren and then pass away painlessly from natural death. OR I could live an unhealthy lifestyle and spend the last two decades of my life with chronic pains and illnesses, maybe in a wheelchair, maybe my children will have to constantly take care of me, taking truck loads of medicines, and then eventually I will have a difficult and painful death in the hospital being surrounded by machines making ugly noises.

[psychoticanimallover]

Because you were predestined to go on a journey of becoming fit and healthy. Just like you were predestined to ask this question. The determinism of your life is controlled by the brain in your head which was programmed by events in your life entirely outside of your control, alongside your fixed DNA. The chance of your existence is 1 in 10 to the power of 2,685,000. Just shut up and be grateful that you’re alive.

[DrunkAss]

Maybe the people who ask this question are supposed to suffer in hell. "What's the point?" It's what a homeless drunk will probably ask. Practice an instrument? What's the point? Study? Get married? Have kids? Become a community leader? Invent a cure for a disease? What's the point? Work work work.

Maybe the people destined to hell are the ones who can't find meaning in anything they work towards. And some of them might even be among the brightest. It takes a reasonably bright person to question the point of everything they're doing. The dumb ones just do what they're told.

But maybe there's some sweet spot for people who question the point of things but seek meaning in what they do and do it -- the explorers. Maybe these are the enlightened ones -- the ones who work hard to find a point, including staying in shape.

[phorse]

You might not be able to change the outcome, but it doesn't matter, cause you don't know the future. Your current choices help you guess it better. For example, if you give up on everything, it's more probable that your predestined future is that you will die at a younger age because of bad health, and with a lot of regrets. But if you choose to try to be more productive, it's more probable that a fulfilling future awaits you.

[Anonymous]

I think we are just trying to be happy & comfortable. If you choose to be a failure and miserable, that's a personal choice. We fill our lives with things that give meaning to it. Death may be inevitable, but life doesn't have to be miserable. Life is what you make of it.

[007kingifrit]

i don't believe in free will but i'm also a utilitarian, i only internalize ideas that are useful. if an idea doesn't do good for me. why use it?

so while i don't believe in free will i don't use that as an excuse to not act in my best interest. yea its probably out of my hands and i'm just a walking meat computer but this meat computer would not function well if it didn't feel responsible

[jshm2]

The same reason actors still go out and try to win Oscars, not leave them all to the "stars" to win, each year.

God may have written script, but it's you that wins the Oscar or wooden spoon for your performance.

[JackSmy]

How do you know, and what makes you think that your life and death is 'pre-determined'?
I think that is nonsense, and WE CHOOSE so many things and those CHOICES alter our life path!

[Unit1]

Because if we don't, we'll definitely never be and live to regret not trying.

Might as well enjoy our time and get rich and live well.

I mean if Diabetes Type 2 sounds appealing to you, then go ahead and don't bother staying healthy 😁

[SunnySri]

Because life and death are predestined we know that we have only one life, so why not live it to the fullest.
Be happy, smile and make others happy too.

[AdithyaR]

Because that way at least you die without any regrets that you didn't try.
It'd be worse to be on one's death bed and look back and realize we did nothing worth remembering.

[BoobMan]

If that were true then maybe you shouldn't. However, I would posit that observation suggests the case for "predestiny" isn't terribly useful or compelling.

[chichi_01]

For a better life maybe. To feel good at least till when we are alive.

[Lionman95]

Because you don´t when you´ll die and it´s nicer to live every moment at its best.

[Jamie05rhs]

They're not predestined. I don't believe in that Calvinist shit. I agree with John Reuben in that "Life is what you make it."

[Gedaria]

Who says it's predetermined.
Life is full of yes or no, left and right.
The theory is so flawed..

[DamnSam]

If you ask that it means you probably dont know how a predestined system works...

[Gafgorkion]

This is kind of like asking why we should clean our house/apartment since it is just destined to get dirty and need cleaned again.

[Waldoe]

to extend your life stay healthy, or just put a bullet in you brain and be done now.

[CapitalismFailed]

It doesn't make a difference if you try or not. The same thing will happen anyway.

[TrustOfWorthington]

because we think we are more than we actually can ever be.

[locutus9999]

well your effort will be also writen or not?, do you really whant to believe something that sad?

[Twenty2]

What do you mean? Death is coming doesn't mean we shouldn't live

[Hangry22]

Because thinking such thoughts doesn't mean we are gonna die that moment. You gotta live your life

[Desconhecida]

Because what it matters is the journey, not the destiny.

[scorpm4f]

Why not?
Perception is reality even if this is all simulation

[DesolateRain]

Because it's better to do that than anything else.

[mistixs]

People putting in effort is part of the plan

[OfDeath]

😂😅🤣 is that a real book? A book about why you shouldn't even bother with life?

[portlandjason]

It makes life less boring

[Mijopapii215]

Well what else you gonna do with the time?

[harry7825]

In life

[JEndigoBleue]

We gotta eat!