This is a very good summation of Crowley.
I think Thelema is not Completely nonsense. and yes I agree with you about Satanism.
I don't say it's "completely nonsense", but Thelema is almost completely Nietschean yet with no understanding for the thoughts behind. It's basically copied from Nietsche's work yet excluding the entire part where he delves into the depth of these thoughts. The modern thelema principles are basically an emptied Nietsche and the only reason for this I can imagine is, that their minds where just not capable of really understanding Nietsche.As a side note: I'm currently writing my dissertation on Nietsche and his thelema-understanding. There's also an excursus to Crowley and his entourage included.
yea you should be absolutely right, I can say i know much about Nietzsche's works though not as much as you for sure but not much about Thelema though i red a little bit of the texts. and why one thinks it's not nonsense is definitely because of what you said using mostly Nietzsche's words that mixed with eastern mysticism made a completely confusing belief, while Nietzsche himself is a bit influenced by eastern Philosophy and Religions and it's not needed to overemphasize that part. I prefer the untouched Philosophical Ideas as well as the original beliefs they used. thanks for the opinion, i really like people who speak with complete knowledge. and thanks again.
There's nobody with "complete knowledge", don't call me that :DAnyway, thanks for the debate :)
Don't ever say that.Ayn Rand owes me two weeks of my life back. 'Atlas Shrugged' was some of the worst bullshit I've ever read. The writing style is terrible (eye contact is mentioned every other page, I kid you not) and the "philosophy" isn't really philosophy (Schopenhauer is philosophy).
Ayn Rand's a good writer.Hardly a political philosopher but a good writer
yea I agree. I don't believe in any made up beliefs made after WWII. just like when we saw after WWI bullshits began to grow in Arts. they are all made in the Chaotic Society of post war that carries a fear of expressing the truth even until this very day.
Hey, I didn't say it was good, I said LaVey's crap was worse than that other junkie psychos ramblings about being selfish. As for post ww2 (-ish) thinking, I'd say Wittgenstein made a rather significant contribution.
yea. Aleister crowley, madame blavatsky, Olcott,...they are all the same, the Theosophist. before or after the war. though i don't say everything they preached was nonsense because nothing is absolute. but i prefer the root beliefs they used, to make their own.
This is correct.
this video isn't very bad if you want to hear two Real Satanists. i like zeena, she's a cool woman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WcKrdFHTds
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Well, it's not just Philosophical ideas i suppose. it's a mixture of many different ideas that sometimes you can't get a specific image out of it. I myself was never a fan of them though when i saw Zeena lavey and nikolas schreck talking i got interested because they were Completely educated and powerful when speaking. but well Schreck had his own order and both of them are now Tantric Buddhists.
what is your religion?
I'm a white witch, I follow the Wiccan faith
I know that, wicca, paganism for P*ssies. sorry it's a name some call it. i didn't mean any harm...
Wicca and paganism are similarly but they are two separate religions, neither comparable to satanism Js
Wicca is a new made up religion that uses some Features from some old Paganitic beliefs. that's why some real Paganists don't like it. because it's look alike them and Children confuse the two.
Hun, I'm not fighting. Have better stuff to do. There are plenty of religions that are a broken off from of a bigger religion.
I'm not fighting. and i didn't mean to hurt you, really.
Didn't hurt me, just don't feel the need to defend my religion, I inform. That's it :)
you don't need to, I wasn't being offensive. and if you felt like that i'm sorry. peace be upon you...Allh, allah, allah.
I didn't take it that way hun lol you're fine
wow...that's so Satanic!!!
Nevermind, because if you were discussing Luciferianism this place would be empty as most people are against things like human sacrifices.