@blank_expression Maybe you missed the OBVIOUS, but the 9mm wasn't designed for Wild Hog Shooting!! 9mm is good for personal self defense, and concealed carry, for most people.Adding all the KE (Kinetic Energy) and cross-section crap is mostly making you sound like some 'know it all" and MEANINGLESS to this audience here! LOL!! Loving you said it though, and sneaking in the physics formula!!Maybe good for Wild Hogs, but most, on here, are more likely interested in self-defense, and concealed carry for defense, and that won't help them! :)My CRAZY cousin likes shooting Wild Hogs on his Texas Ranch, and he uses a.44 Magnum, NOT a 9mm!!I agree, the.380 is mostly crap for anything but target shooting, and even then, you are better off with a cheaper.22 and cheaper.22 ammunition.
@JackSmy “Maybe good for Wild Hogs, but most, on here, are more likely interested in self-defense” that day in the woods a wild boar hog turning on me was self defense. I don’t know if you realize but we are food for the large ones. I wasn’t hunting; I was hiking; that is what I had with me. Should I have told the hog “wait-up ‘till I get my.44Mag”? The ballistics is all relevant, it isn’t that difficult to understand for most, and there are a few on here that breathe it.
@blank_expression HEY, don't get all PISSY with me!! I was reading what you posted!! I didn't mean any offense!! If you had said you were hiking, and surprised, my response would have been TOTALLY different!!I can only respond to what you post!! You remember the event, in your mind, and just didn't share all the details!No harm, no foul! Misunderstanding! Are we OK?
@JackSmy OK? sure why not...
@genericname85 Really? Have you ever shot anything more than a cap gun? Everyone has some preference, even if it is just the first, only one they shot!
@JackSmy I have served in the army and have shot pistols, rifles and fully automatics. Lucky for me I did so for nothing but training... I honestly don't give a crap.
If I really wanted someone dead is want a fully automatic, not a pistol.
And if I wanted to hunt for goody I'd want a rifle, not a pistol.
For food not goody*
@genericname85 If you have the experience you say, I am a bit concerned about you!!
@Quackthulu Cool! Most women don't really like.45s because the grips are larger, and women typically have smaller hands. I have a S&W.45, and love it, but it is only 8 rounds! My Taurus 9 has 15 in the mag, and I never carry with one in the pipe.
@JackSmy I have fired a hell of a lot bigger than.45
@Quackthulu GREAT!! Like what? Only handguns?
@JackSmy Largest hand gun I have fired was a.357 magnum and I fucking loved it. Largest cartridge was a 30-06 that was from an M1 garand.
@Quackthulu Garands ROCK!! I LOVE those!! "Finest Battle Implement ever devised" --Patton
@JackSmy And at the time he was correct. Hell, they still hold up pretty well today.
@Quackthulu What are you referring to with the "he was correct'? I missed a link somewhere. . .
@JackSmy I mean your Patton quote about the M1 Garand. At the time it was absolutely true.
@Quackthulu I think it is still mostly true. I STILL LOVE Garands!! I wish I could have met the man, and talked about the round, and shot the originals, rather than the.30-06 version that was ultimately made and issued!Do you think there is a better one now?
@JackSmy They are still good rifles to be sure. But when you have a lighter package that you can use to put more rounds down range, allow you to carry more ammo, reload quicker and not be completely useless indoors it’s no wonder they aren’t carried any more.
@Quackthulu I thought you might go there! :) I am more the 'One-shot, One-kill' kind, and aimed, purposeful shots! I love that you have accepted the modern way, though! :)Should we chat about this, more offline? It really isn't Girls Ask Guys, thing! I am really liking discussing this, with you!
@JackSmy Having a lighter cartage doesn’t make it less accurate. And the “one shot, one kill” mentality sounds grate in theory, but doesn’t hold up so well in practice. Even the most experienced best trained solders in the world still miss, and frequently. It’s easy to hit a target on a range. But when that target is behind cover and firing back at you it’s a completely different story. You also completely ignored the other points I made about why the M1 Garand has fallen out of favor. And no, I’m not going to give out personal information to some dude online. I’m not an idiot.
@Quackthulu Not asking for personal information, in any way! Just wanting to chat about some things we both obviously like, here, on GAG, through the Private Message app. Nothing any more private that just being on GAG, just chatting, about things that others probably don't care about.Your choice, and just thinking I found a friend, and something we like, and very similar.
@JackSmy “Should we chat about this, more offline? It really isn’t Girls Ask Guys, thing”So now you are just straight up lying to me then. I guess we are done here.
I am also a Taurus, and LOVE Taurus weapons, but I have not yet tried the G2C.I LOVE my PT92, and I love that it is METAL, and has the exposed hammer!! Maybe I'm just "Old School", but I like what I like. Maybe when I shoot a G2C, I will love it, I hope, as the next generation, more "Modern" one, so I don't get so much crap from shooting buddies, when I am the best, with my "Ancient" weapons!! LOL!!Have you shot any?
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yes, but with the DA/SA you don't have to keep it on safe! because the DA/Sa is the safety.
People use safeties?
If you want to not blow off your dick yea.
I feel like the answer is don't appendix carry and invest in a decocker so you don't de-cock yourself
Bersa is created by a weapons designer from beretta.
yea but these guns under 300 dollars, if I had the money I would get a sig 226.
The sig P320 is about half the cost of the 226 with all of the precision and feel. For $300, you're going to suffer in quality and I think you'll regret it in the long run.
the sig p320 would sweet if it had a double, single action. That's the biggest thing I wish it had.
The P320 has great feel. You won't regret it.
@Steve37 It isn't so much the weapon, but the shooter. I love Eastern-Block Surplus like my Bulgarian Makarov, and my CZ52. Crude, by Western standards, but they use the CZ52, and the 7.62X25 to test body armor, as I have heard.Both are METAL, and reliable, though crude. With crude Iron sights. Anyone with a few boxes of ammunition, and some time, can learn a weapon, and fire 'Expert' within a few training sessions, with a good teacher, that shows them how the weapon works, and how to aim properly.As long as they function, the slide recoils, and chambers the round (both of these are EXCELLENT, and NEVER had a jam, even with surplus ammunition) what's so wrong with paying $200 for it, rather than $600+ for 'Quality' as you say?These are 'Quality' in that I can pick up another Makarov', and with one magazine "know" that one, and be in the 10 ring.Shooting is an ART, and skill, not just buying something expensive!!I see the others, on the range, with theirs, Sigs, and Glocks, and all over the target at 10 meters, not knowing the sights, and the set aim points with ranging, and never having a good teacher.Not crapping on you, just saying, Brand Name dropping and paying a lot, isn't going to make shooting more fun, if you don't know how to do it, at the basic level!! I've taught more than 30 people to shoot, and most were women.
@JackSmy I agree, anyone who has the time and desire to become proficient could do it with just about any handgun. But, a well balanced and comfortable handgun makes it so much easier. Both the Glock and Sig are easy for a beginner to handle and build proficiency quickly. I stand by my earlier recommendation and its not just because of the name on the weapon. It's because they are outstanding weapons that are easy to handle and are very reliable.
@Steve37 To each their own. I teach the ones I teach how to handle any weapon they are given, and from the shot placement, know how to compensate, and adjust, and hit the 10 ring.Not everyone can afford a $600+ handgun, and they DON'T NEED THAT, if they LEARN to shoot, properly. Just my opinion, and none I have taught has ever complained that I didn't teach them enough, and never told them how to handle ones they have never shot. They say quite the opposite: That I teach them so much more than they imagined, and love how comfortable they feel, when they are with boyfriends/girlfriends and partners, and often love how they shoot those people's weapons better, than they do!! LOL!Best to learn the basics, and HOW they work, than just one, special one, and be total sht with everything else. Just my opinion. . .
the First one is Walther PPK clone! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU98uP7pXA8