The earth is round as far as I can tell, but you have to hand it to the flat earthers, some of their arguments r pretty good. Like the ships mast thing is actually proof of nothing, look into ‘matrix of perception’. Weather balloons with cameras r probs the best way to prove roundness
@Shamalien Why isn't the ship mast a proof? Matrix of perception is a general phrase for so many things. So explain how the ship can disappear bottom to top when leaving and appear top to bottom when arriving at shore.
Basically even if it was flat the mast would still disappear because human sight is limited in range, and that’s how it looks, like there is always a horizon that’s how sight works
@Shamalien But if it was flat, the ship as a whole would diminish. But today if you see a ship move away from shore, you will see the bottom of the ship go 'down' and then the remaining slowly. Only a curvature allows for this.
Ah, good distinction! True
Go do the very simple experiments yourself then...
Do this simple experiment, that requires just a binoculars. Go to a sea port or some place where ship leave the shore. Observe one going to the horizon, you will see it's bottom go first, and then gradually up to the mast. If the Earth was flat, you would see it as a whole diminish.
@Archerer Alright bet, buy me a ticket to outerspace.
@seanras the fact that they don't have a full picture of the Earth, use different satellites to take pictures of parts of the Earth, and then put them together to form a picture of their idea of the size and shape of the Earth.. there is no telling whether the Earth is flat or is round. It is possible for anything to happen or be a certain way. We have no concrete evidence of many things, just assumptions and theories.
There are many easy experiments you can do on your own as well, without having to go to space. Would you like me to show you some of them? You can do them easily on your own, and find out for yourself, they are really cool and I think it would be pretty amazing for you to find out for yourself!
@Archerer... Google search is cool.. but there's no real picture of the entire Earth. It's impossible to take a picture of it... there's no camera that exists that can capture it whole and no position good enough for someone to be at to take a clear picture. Therefore, it is a possibility for the Earth to be flat or round.
Do you think that without a "real" picture of earth from space, there is absolutely no way that you could prove earth is round? Do you for instance believe that you could use math to prove things? Like It would take me 5 minutes to walk 5 meters if I walked 1 meter per second? Or do you just not believe numbers can predict anything at all?
Oh shit I fucked up, I mean if I walked 1 meter per MINUTE, that means I would walk 5 meters in 5 minutes... Do you believe that?
@Chanel94 Uh no. We know for certain the Earth is round. NASA has tons of pictures of Earth from space. If you don't think those are real, consider the fact that ships leaving towards the horizon, don't just vanish, but they gradually disappear, bottom of it first --- ONLY a curved earth will give that effect. Think about it.
@seanras those pictures are put together from individual pictures. There is no camera big enough to take a picture of the Earth whole. You and I never been outer space to know for a fact what shape Earth is and what space really even looks like. We are going by other people perspectives. We know nothing unless we ACTUALLY know something, what we think we know is literally hearsay and going off others opinions and such. If you weren't there to witness something, then you really don't know. Possibilities are endless.
So just completely ignore the relevant data, THIS ladies and gentlemen is what is called DELIBERATELY IGNORANT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIk7gwjgIM here is live, the Earth, in 360, so what if it takes a few minutes to see the whole thing? It is obviously round.BUT AGAIN there are many SIMPLE experiments your can do FOR YOURSELF AT HOME to see the earth is round, but you are LITERALLY ignoring any of that and just being a deliberate moron. People are so pathetic sometimes..
@Archerer you believe anything don't you? If they can fake the "moon walk" then they can fake "live streams" ... Like I keep saying we know nothing until we know something. If we haven't physically seen it for ourselves whether Earth is flat or round, then we really don't know. There's many things that we will never understand so it is easy to tell a lie to stop the questions than it is to tell the truth and have you continue to question everything. Let it be... I said what I said. Respect other's perspectives, we don't all have to think the same.
Ok, you are still just avoiding the important parts. Why don't you do the many experiments you can do on your own at home to figure it out for yourself? You are being PURPOSEFULLY IGNORANT. GO AND DO IT YOURSELF for fucks sake!
I have been around the world, I have seen it myself.
@Archerer congrats... still dont know anything untill we seen it ourselves, the possibilites of anything are endless. You can stop trying to force your perspective on me now. Its not going to change me from being open minded about it. Round or flat, it really doesn't matter.
You aren't open minded you are ignorant, learn the difference.
@Archerer I'm open to possibilities smd
@Chanel94 Sure you can say that, but like I said, even if you don't have a picture, you can say it has a curvature from the mast of ships gradually appearing and gradually disappearing as a ship arrives or leaves shore. People established the round Earth long before we went to space. Also, a camera can take a picture of a mountain from far enough, so it's not a question of having a camera that's big enough. NASA pictures were taken many miles in outer space, so they are very well capable of capturing the whole Earth.
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If they where serious about finding out truth about this they would interview nielsen degrasse tyson.
But what about the moon. The Earth casts a shadow on the moon which gives it that half moon look at night.
Well, can't flat earth cast a shadow, what's the problem?
No I’m asking for real. I want to understand why people think this way, I don’t ask questions I don’t actually want answer for
Well you might be incorrectly presupposing that there are people who think this way.
Why would or why wouldn't doesn't dictate the answer. You can find 5000 straight white geese. It doesn't mean the 5001st geese will be white too.
@Cryptic-Game not the same thing, there's a reason why everything in space is round (everything with a big mass) its gravity
I never said it wasn't but his argument was why not as if since all other things are that it means all things will be. That's simply not always true. If all marbles you have seen for last 30 years are white, it doesn't mean the next one will be white.
@Cryptic-Game yeah you're right
Let me introduce you to my friend gravity
I'm not falling for that one
Good choice of words
That's called gravity hunny
Gravity is bullshit. Even a tiny fly can lift off the ground easily so it can't be powerful enough to hold the sea on earth.
So why are your feet on the ground my love
Because they're bottom of my legs
Oh dear I really wish you could read more books
Drawing a circle freehand is one of the hardest things an artist can do, sculpting a sphere is near impossible without countless measuring. Yet we're supposed to believe a round earth just magically formed by itself. Yeah right
I really hope Trump keeps his promise and forces schools to teach flat earth geography alongside global geography
Hahaa you’re such a troll, an entertaining troll though.
You sure? There are a lot of things.
@sensible27 My cat is proof, lol.
Your cat sounds interesting, like seriously what does she do? Or he?
@sensible27 She likes to bat things off counter tops on purpose.
She's clearly bored. You are her pet you should... you know? Maybe entertain her? : )
@sensible27 I give her tons of affection.
That must have been very long sticks :D
Not at all the the shadow cast by a vertical stick on the same day at the same time will change do to how far north or south of the equator you are tge rest is math
It was more meant on an abstract side :)See the fun, friend. Let's now wait for the conspiracy guys coming up with ideas about a MATHEMATICAL conspiracy, heh heh.
I’m offended lol Rihanna’s butt is not flat
i like how she twerk
Yea but then less people will comment and just vote
But that’s just plate tectonics