Interesting facts, thanks for sharing.
That’s a very interesting argument. Brooklyn has alleys though, so does Queens. I see what you’re saying though. I always associated Gotham with Chicago too. Thanks for sharing.
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I don’t think there’s a clear definitive answer honestly. It’s all open to interpretation and analogies, and I think ultimately it’s a fusion between different cities and different themes. Having lived in both though, I’d have to stay the Chicago theme is pretty dominant.
Gotham was slang for Goat Town (NY 120 something years ago). Hmmm interesting! I lived in NY for a few years and I never knew that, thanks for the info.
Interesting but wouldn’t you say there’s a huge difference between Newark’s skyline and Gotham’s?
If you're talking strictly skyline, then Gotham is a pretty thorough mix of NYC, Chicago, Newark, and maybe a few others like Philly (Beacon City is the DCU equivalent to Philly). Most buildings were designed more or less from scratch but in the same spirit of art-deco architecture and some other trends of the time. I actually have to semi-retcon my original statement- the location of Gotham City is definitely the state of New Jersey (but implies to be south rather than north), but its proximity and foil-like relationship to Metropolis is directly inspired by Newark/New York. The island location is taken from NYC as well, but they also gave this trait to Metropolis. The elevated train system is taken from Chicago, and the crime families/rampancy is taken from 1950s-early 1980s mafia activity in those cities as well as Atlantic City.
The way you dissect this is impeccable my friend. I appreciate your detailed answer. Fictional cities and building their history, architecture, and nuances has always fascinated me and Gotham is one great example.
Thanks! And yeah Gotham is by far my favorite fictional city in any superhero universe. It seems like DC put much more effort into it too.
I always thought that Coast City was LA 👍🏼Metropolis does look like Chicago. Gotham is where I’m lost, because I lived in both and I feel like it has NY elements and Chicago elements but the vibes are all Chicago in my opinion at least.
Yes Gotham does mix several things. I was also confused sometimes with Metropolis and the Kansas references. Maybe Clark goes further east than I thought.
That is confusing, you’re right.
I lived in both and I feel that too!
I could say the same. I feel like it fits the Chicago feels more, but I can’t explain why.
Well the Dark Knight movie was shot in Chicago but the fictional city was not strictly based on it.
I agree but Chicago wasn’t that far behind either.
In the Capone era with Tommy guns and the constant sparring with the Irish north gangs. I could see that!
The Irish are British in gothom. That's penguin's gang.Joker thugs are the more disposable rat-tag freelance groups from outside the city who just hear they could make a quick buck.In many ways Capone is two-face
I could totally see that! Scarface and Two Face. New York has more big shots though. I could see Rudy Giuliani as a character (politics aside) just his whole persona.
Politics aside? Suuurre.Given when it was written, the Kennedys seem pretty likely to me.John included but his dad was 100% a villain. What's the name of the corrupt gotham mayor?
Aubrey James. I wasn’t comparing Giuliani to him by the way. I was just saying he is a character. Same for Cuomo. I truly don’t care about their politics, just how they carry themselves.
How can you tell? Chicago has no Midwestern vibe either in my opinion, even though it’s in the Midwest.
It is a fictional city but all fictional cities are inspired by real cities, at least to a certain extent.
Could be NY!
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