I'm sorry but there is no such thing as unconditional love. If you endured 30 years of brutal torture, I promise you would hate your torturer no matter if they were your child or lover.Even if that loved one was tortured until they were broken first so they had no real choice.
@Juxtapose love from mother to baby is undeniably unconditional. Even people that do terrible things to there kids still can unconditionally love them. With realtionships I see how its harder to have unconditional love but it definitely is there for some couples.
@Apple1996 they sure can. But with schizophrenic mothers, it's like multiple people in one body do treat the same kid in different ways. One loving mother, one hating mother, one crazy mother and one normal mother and so on.
So if your child grew up and tortured you for 30 years you would still love them afterwards? That's just not biologically possible, we don't have that much control over our brains if we withstand that much trauma.
@Juxtapose I'm not sure why my own child would torture me? I've never heard of that happening. Maybe in old age like the child takes care of a elderly parent and is bad to them but at that old I don't know if I'd care or not
@scooogy yess that is what I mean like a crazy mom still loves their kids even tho they're crazy
Extreme hypotheticals do a pretty good job of testing people's convictions or absolutist statements.
@Apple1996 in an algebraic sense that's not what you mean, because in your description it's one giver (the mother) and multiple receivers (the crazy shades of the kid). In my description it's multiple givers (the crazy shades of the mother) and one receiver (the kid). Your case would be like one Santa and many kids. But I mean many Santas and one kid, which would likely destroy a kid's belief in Santa.
I agree being married and having offspring brings on a new perspective into your life but you do not fail as a human. I have been in many relationships and have three kids. I am not happier for it. I do love my kids and would do anything in the world for them. People that choose not to marry or have kids also live full and complete happy lives. All people are not cut out to be parents and there for end up making everyone's life a living hell. A parent trapped in an abusive marriage and forced to be a single parent in a marriage is not happiness nor unconditional love. That is the pure definition of insanity. Your reasoning holds some merit but for the most part it's illogical. Someone that never gets married is spared the agony of divorce and with no children are spared pain and heart break. You think yes you should have kids because everyone is doing the same thing. Tell that to the child that gets beat, molested or starved to death. How about watching your child die from cancer or getting struck by a drunk driver? Getting kidnapped because you are too busy being little Suzy homemaker to notice they are missing. How does your unconditional love handle not knowing if you will ever see them again or knowing they are out there crying out for you and you are helpless to do anything. Are you still in that happy bliss? What about knowing your significant other is sleeping with someone else but you don't believe in divorce. Happiness still there? Being in a relationship and having kids are a double edged sword. It can bring you happiness or sadness but it does not qualify as failing to be human.
@NyceGuyFinishingLast you're really over worrying about all the negative things in life. Those are just small bumps in the road not the whole picture of life. I dont really worry about anything negative even when those things happen cause I know that there is always light in the darkness. And yeah everyone can have their opinions on what makes them happy but it seems like love and happiness are the best things someone can get in life so having a child or a long term relationship can fulfill that where as other pointless things in life really cannot.
I think your response to me was worse than your post to those question. You are thick headed like a lot of narrow minded people. But whatever floats your boat.
@NyceGuyFinishingLast just cause I dont agree with you doesn't mean I'm hard headed lol everyone can have their own opinion here.
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Yes to a few of them lmao
@VanillaSalt Okay, I agree that Oprah Winfrey is a very bad example here!
Lmao that’s the one I was thinking about most but Beethoven was a real asshole apparently as well.
@VanillaSalt Do you know why Beethoven was like that?He was misused by his father as a child and was often beaten up and slapped on his face but mainly on his ears when he refused to play piano when he drunk father ordered him to play for his friends...
Didn’t know that but if your basing success or failure as a human being on that well most of your species has failed... oh god you might be onto something
in general being a good role model for the younger generation is overall best really. regardless of if your related to the person or not.
Viruses have that biological drive to reproduce as well. But they kill cells and hosts. But viruses exist because it regulates the population and keeps life stable. Those immune survive, because they are stronger. I see the same with childless people, and I view humans as viruses. We are destroying our planet by overpopulating and having kids. So by not having them, we decrease the carbon footprint.
Then by all means, remove your genes from the pool and leave the human race with nothing but the genes of people who believe humans are not viruses.Every animal, heck, every plant lives by the same rule. Reproduce more successfully than your competition. That's it. That's how all life evolves. Be it a virus, zebra, a tree or a mushroom.
Any alien race capable of interstellar travel could wipe us out in an evening without even trying no matter how many of us there are.
I'm the reverse (somewhat). I want to partner up (already have), but I don't want to have kids at all. I definitely don't think it's a failure to not do one of either, or both.
I agree, it is not a failure at all.
@screaming_doorknob I was legitimately think of Tesla, but wasn't sure, and didn't want to spend 5-10 minutes looking it up.