You’re atheist but believe in souls. What happens when scientists figure out what causes consciousness?
Doesn’t your brain make you who you are?
@OddBeMe Not necessarily. There is growing consensus in the scientific-community that there's more to the conceptual consciousness than the physical brain.www.psychologytoday.com/.../why-the-mind-is-more-the-brainThey may also call it 'mind' in English, but the very search for this thing that both holds and is our personality is even found in the name of the study: psychology, from 'ψυχή' ("psuche"; "psoo-KHEY" so i rhymes with English "Sue, hey!"; 「soul」) + '-λογία' ("'logia"; "loh-GEE-yah"; 「study of」).
That doesn’t make sense.
@OddBeMe To those that are perishing it doesn't.
Shouldn’t beliefs be based on reality? As in the most objectively proven?
@OddBeMe You know, sometimes you just got to take things on faith, like is the world going to be here tomorrow.
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Yeah, if our so called souls weren’t property of the brain... then why do all people with brain problems like down syndrome all act a certain way?Cos the way we are is to do with our brain..: that’s where our personality comes from
As an 'intellectual' provocation: What, if your 'soul' IS your 'brain' (or the other way round)?
Isn't that basically what I said?
I understood it differently, perhaps. I got it now :)
Sounds like word salad. You’re trying to define a soul into existence to make yourself feel better.
@OddBeMe I feel good enough. What I mean is more something like 'I am inside of my body - but my body is not all of me'
How do you know your body isn’t all of you? Don’t you care about what’s true?
@OddBeMe I speculate. I don't know the truth. Do YOU?I just have this feeling that I am IN my body - I use it. (Just in case that someone now has an idea to dispute or to spread some ideological diarrhoea on spirituality or religion: that's not what I talk about, and also nothing I will discuss)
Why not just call it consciousness? Calling it a soul doesn’t make it true.
To be fair we don't know where either thing is and it could be the same or at least intertwined. But I guess when people talk about soul it's a spirit that's the essence of us and we're not connected to the body when we die. In theory that could still be consciousness if consciousness is in fact an external force that drives the vessel.
Hear of Occams Razor? Basically you go with the theory with the least assumptions. Your beliefs have a lot of assumptions.
I haven't, but sounds interesting. The problem is in this situation is that there are too few factors that can be assumed, as far as I can tell. The consciousness is either in the brain or it's not. I'm leaning towards that it's a part of the brain though, but in the end of the day we don't know at this point in time.
Well consciousness changes when people get brain injuries right? Their personalities change? So that’s evidence it’s in the brain. But you’re right that we don’t know if there are external causes. And that’s why it’s folly to believe before we know.
Can personality change after brain injuries? I've only heard of people losing their short term memory. But yeah I guess that is strong evidence that the consciousness is in the brain. It's still a mystery where in the brain it is though.
Saying I don’t know is a good thing. It leads to answers. Saying it’s God stops the investigation.
Yeah definitely agree with that. I talked to a very Christian person on here the other day and she believed God would come and save us from the shitshow we've got going on. And then called me delusional for thinking we may be able to stop the heating of the planet. I can't believe people like that actually exists...
Stop right there Ann Coulter
It's fine, you just depressed teeneger. Lol
Suprisingly im not, im just a lame teen
No you're not, everyone has value and potential. Believe in you 😎👍
How did you feel it?
@OddBeMe You always do, but its so natural that you won't notice. What made it obvious what i was feeling is that i had all the reasons to fell that way stripped from me but deep down my original self was still there. I had no reason to be happy, i had no energy left, my heart and body where broken. Yet deep down there was this kind, loving, happy, energetic and strong feeling that i knew belonged to me and was at the core of my existence. I tapped into it and overcame the emotional pain very quickly, ever since i have been more at peace with myself then ever before.
Without brain you can’t either. And we can prove brains exist.
Well you don't eat ice cream it makes sense 🤔 😂 kidding